PressOK for PocketPC1 Available at PocketGear

[Ekkie Tepsupornchai]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=17303&associateid=204' target='_blank'>http://www.pocketgear.com/software_...associateid=204</a><br /><br /></div><i>"The window that pops up when you go to certain pages in Internet Explorer asking you to Press OK to continue can be very annoying. Be annoyed no more. With PressOK the message will be automatically closed. It does one job and it does it very well."</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/PRESSOK.JPG" /><br /><br />If you own a WM2003SE device and you visit a website that makes use of Flash animations, you'll see this dialog come up often enough to make you go bonkers (boy, do I <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=34848&highlight=">know</a>)!! Anyway, PressOK for PocketPC1 will relieve you of mind-numbing OK-tapping and allow you to just surf! You can pick up a copy <a href="http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=17303&associateid=204">here</a> at PocketGear for $8.99 [Affiliate Link]. For what it does, this doesn't come cheap and (hopefully) the need for this will actually become obsolete once we move past WM2003SE, but for now, if you surf regularly enough and see this dialog box often enough, paying the fee may be well worth it.

[foebea]

Wow. I gotta say I feel lucky to be content with the 2215.

That dialog box only has one option. press okay. it doesn't give any useful information. It's like some evil coder threw it in on a bad day. Is there any explanation as to why that needs to come up in the first place?

btw: i am no guru, but I am almost positive we will hear from tweak2k3se or somthing in the near future that this is adjustable in the registry. I can't see 10 bucks for this product. thats insane in my opinion. 2 dollars I would be fine with, coder makes a profit and the window goes away, but for a completely background app that prevents the occurance of this one window? 8O outrageous price IMNSHO.

[SteveHoward999]

That dialog box only has one option. press okay. it doesn't give any useful information. It's like some evil coder threw it in on a bad day. Is there any explanation as to why that needs to come up in the first place?


Yes. Some idiot company decided to sue Microsoft becuase, it was argued, they owned the patent for embedding plugins in web pages. On the offchance that they won, Microsoft developed a workaround that meant developers had to use a different method to include certain objects on their web pages. That meant a change to Internet Explorer. When the courst case fell through, they somehow neglected to remove that workaround from PocketPC 2003 SE ...

[R K]

For what it does, this doesn't come cheap and (hopefully) the need for this will actually become obsolete once we move past WM2003SE, but for now, if you surf regularly enough and see this dialog box often enough, paying the fee may be well worth it.

Uhh, or you could just press the Action button on your D-Pad--quick and painless.

[Ekkie Tepsupornchai]

For what it does, this doesn't come cheap and (hopefully) the need for this will actually become obsolete once we move past WM2003SE, but for now, if you surf regularly enough and see this dialog box often enough, paying the fee may be well worth it.

Uhh, or you could just press the Action button on your D-Pad--quick and painless.
This is true for pages with only one Flash object, but for pages where there are several Flash objects, it gets to be pain in the arse. I still don't quite surf on my PPC enough to make this a must-buy for me though.

[juni]

I'd love to see a hack like this in tweaks2k ;)

[surur]

Is this an April Fools day joke?

Surur

[Garry [WMA]]

Hi All

Just wanted to make a comment on the pricing of this.

We are in a very difficult situation with pricing at the moment. Basically PocketPC programs do not sell in large quantities and we barely recoup costs on anything we develop.

What people forget is how much of a cut the distributors take, credit card handling fees etc. Some of those are fixed fees rather than percentages so the lower the price the bigger the impact.

Couple this with the fact that we are in the UK and the $ is extremely weak against the pound and the charges we incur in transferring dollars to pound sterling mean we will not really make any profit until we have sold well over 500 copies even at this price. To be honest in the current market we are going to struggle to get there. We have experimented with lower prices to drive up volume but I'm afraid it does not happen.

I found this 'Press OK' prompt very annoying, I wanted to offer a fix to this the community. So I got our development team to build it but I still have to justify the development costs and its incredibly difficult to do in market which perceives anything over a couple of dollars being too expensive.

As background this problem is related to a patent issue. We were unable to find any simple registry fix and had to come up with a background task as surmised. Actually that is not all that simple either as you have to consider doing it in such a way it doesn't adversely affect battery life.

Yes I know it doesn't seem to do much but what it does it does well with minimum memory and battery usage.

I think this whole issue of pricing for PocketPC software is going to get more and more difficult. Especially with Microsoft starting to charge for development tools. Its very difficult to make any money in the PocketPC market, only a very few key area products (enhanced PIM, battery monitoring etc) will make any real market penetration in sales and the number of sales for other items is really poor. The problem is perceived value. People do not perceive most of the utilites have any real value especially if they are fixing a problem that they don't think should be there in the first place.

Having said all that if anyone can guarantee by dropping the price to $2 we would get an extra 4000 sales I would happily do it. As that is what I would need to break even at that price.

Sorry for the long post but I think its an important subject. Yes I would like to make some profit but I'm not trying to profiteer.

[Ekkie Tepsupornchai]

Thanks for the input Gary, it's always appreciated to have the developers feedback. :way to go:

[Garry [WMA]]

No Problem. I do understand where people are coming from on pricing. Its a very difficult market to be in at present. To be honest if we didn't have other revenue streams we wouldn't have stayed in it.

[surur]

Now that we have a developers attention: How about addressing a problem people are actually willing to pay real money for ($20-30).

How about sorting out bluetooth voice dialling on pocketpcphones? Im not saying write voice recognition software, just a utility that will look out for the bluetooth headset button press and route the audio to a program like fonix or microsoft voice command. I know you will sell a few thousand in a few days.

Surur

[ghostppc]

Wow! This WASN'T an April fool's joke? A popup to control a popup??? Wow!


:jawdrop:

[Ekkie Tepsupornchai]

Wow! This WASN'T an April fool's joke? A popup to control a popup??? Wow!
Uhhh... no, this is not "a popup to control a popup". This is a program to alleviate the user from deailing with an annoying popup. If you have a WM2k3SE device and you surf often, then this would help make the experience much more seamless and enjoyable.

[powder2000]

I have to say, after switching from my ipaq 1940 to axim x50v, I was like waaaaa.......This has to be the most annoying thing in the world to me. I browse a lot on my ppc and I almost want to ditch my newer ppc because of this. What is stopping ms from releasing a simple update to this, I mean come on. Anyways, a much needed solution, thanks.

[Garry [WMA]]

How about sorting out bluetooth voice dialling on pocketpcphones? Im not saying write voice recognition software, just a utility that will look out for the bluetooth headset button press and route the audio to a program like fonix or microsoft voice command. I know you will sell a few thousand in a few days

Got my attention and I'm having a look at it (although I'm not sure it will sell thousands of copies instantly - very few things sell more than a hundred copies in the first month) I think this is going to prove very tricky as it will rely on working with the myriad number of Bluetooth stacks out there but we'll investigate further.

[TMann]

I'm not sure why, but the ONLY website that I visit that gives me this particular dialog box is...PockePCThoughts.com. Seriously. None of the news websites, PDA websites, Mac computer websites that I frequent do this. Only our beloved PocketPCThoughts....hmm...

(BTW, I am using a Dell Axim x50v.)

TMann

[surur]

[WMA] I think this is going to prove very tricky as it will rely on working with the myriad number of Bluetooth stacks out there but we'll investigate further.

If it was easy some-one would have done it by now. There is great demand for this, basically from 100% of people who use a bluetooth headset with a ppcphone (such as the xda series) It IS however possible, as the MPx has voice dailling via bluetooth.

If you doubt the demand pop over to xda-developers.com or Howard Forum and do a search for voice dialling.

Surur

[beq]

How about sorting out bluetooth voice dialling on pocketpcphones? Im not saying write voice recognition software, just a utility that will look out for the bluetooth headset button press and route the audio to a program like fonix or microsoft voice command. I know you will sell a few thousand in a few days.

Please take no offense, but after reading the factual-perceived remarks of the earlier developer, the kind of statements quoted above strikes me (and this is just a subjective impression) more as "wishful" expectation by a user.

Not that I'm trying to pick on anyone (perhaps I'm still worked up after having just gotten back from seeing Sin City)...

[surur]

Thats because you are american. Bluetooth, and bluetooth headsets have poor penetration there. Pocketpcphones like the XDA II, IIs, IIi and mini has poor penetrating also.

This explains why microsoft could make such a major error in the first place, in leaving out bluetooth voice dialling. This does not mean that these feature is not in demand. It is standard in all other cell phones that work with bluetooth headsets.

Pocketplus has made big business out of plugging the holes microsoft has left. This is a major hole in PPCphones, and I can easily see it as being a standard utility, especially if MS has not fixed this demand in WM2005.

People are so desperate they are willing to donate money for a solution.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19233&amp;highlight=bluetooth+voice+donate

No bull ****.
I have an MPX300 and the bluetooth voicedail work swwwweeettt!

I am almost tempted to keep the MPX300 because the BT handsfree works great and the ability to make calls by pressing a button on my BT headset and only using my voice is so wonderful.
I can leave the phone in my briefcase or in my PDASkin case and make a call by simply pressing one button on my BT headset and speaking a number or simply saying the name of one of my contacts, perfectly. Even while I drive my car.

Ha, and other people bitch about the PDA-cell phone being to big! They can't any more when the little BT headset on my ear can do everything there dumb "small" phone can do!

The maker of the bluetooth hardware driver and voice recognition software is www.voicesignal.com

If they make it for all the other phones out there, dam it, they should make it for the HTC devices too.

The only problem is they do not think there is a market for all the individual "end users" like us and I think they only deal with the OEM clients.

If we gather together and become a "high dollar" client like the OEM is, they will listen and make it. They are in their business for the money.

If we can find out their bottom line dollar amount they would need to develop a solution for the different HTC devices, and have xda-developers set up a special paypal donation account for bluetooth voice dial, and we all donate, we could do this.
I am willing to donate $200.

Because they will have to make a hardware driver for each HTC device, they may want a certain amount of money for each device. We may have to set up several donation accounts.

Hey, it is worth a shot.

Or, we could just bug the **** out of them and maybe they will start making it for our devices if they think there is a market for it.

Word of caution though, if we bug the **** out of them, they think there is a market for it, they will charge more if we go with the group donation idea.

Well, opinions please.


http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=8488&amp;highlight=bluetooth+voice+dialing

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=5020&amp;highlight=bluetooth+voice+dialing

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=9511&amp;highlight=bluetooth+voice+dialing

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=9602&amp;highlight=bluetooth+voice+dialing

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=8455&amp;highlight=bluetooth+voice+dialing

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12845&amp;highlight=bluetooth+voice+dialing

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=16053&amp;highlight=bluetooth+voice+dialing

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15191&amp;highlight=bluetooth+voice+dialing

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19274&amp;highlight=bluetooth+voice+dialing

http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?mode=results

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=546625&amp;highlight=%2Bbluetooth+%2Bvoice+%2Bdialling

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=539001&amp;highlight=%2Bbluetooth+%2Bvoice+%2Bdialling

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=555220&amp;highlight=%2Bbluetooth+%2Bvoice+%2Bdialling

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=526477&amp;highlight=%2Bbluetooth+%2Bvoice+%2Bdialling

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=525779&amp;highlight=%2Bbluetooth+%2Bvoice+%2Bdialling

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=489597&amp;highlight=%2Bbluetooth+%2Bvoice+%2Bdialling

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=285286&amp;highlight=%2Bbluetooth+%2Bvoice+%2Bdialling

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=241156&amp;highlight=%2Bbluetooth+%2Bvoice+%2Bdialling

http://www.msmobiles.com/n/a.php?i=14688&amp;g=microsoft.public.pocketpc.phone_edition

http://www.modaco.com/lofiversion/index.php/t200902.html

If only 1% of people who use ppcphones buy this utility thats this 1000's of people.

Surur

[beq]

Thats because you are american. Bluetooth, and bluetooth headsets have poor penetration there. Pocketpcphones like the XDA II, IIs, IIi and mini has poor penetrating also.

Heh I may be an American but I have globe-travelling family members, and I personally have bought two PDA2k's and a 128MB JAM (plus my several previous iPAQs and other PPCs with built-in BT), three BlueSpoon Digital on top of the previous three original BlueSpoon analog headsets (plus three BlueSpoon AX that I didn't keep), several BT GPS receivers, a few laptops with BT (like the ThinkPad T40, X40, T43), etc, etc -- not to mention the non-PPC cellphones we'd previously bought always have had BT (including some Nokia Symbian smartphones like the 9500, etc) :mrgreen:

And FYI I do own Voice Command also, though I haven't had a chance to really mess with it yet. In fact since buying my current PPC earlier this year I've spent well over US$1000 on PPC software alone (continuing from this point (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=38109&amp;start=10#331184)). A large chunk involved only discounted upgrades from older versions I already owned, but then again I've also had to purchase multiple licenses for some of the general apps that my novice family members' PPCs also need.

Of course now that my bank account's drained I'll have to brown-bag for lunch everyday (too bad I can't return my new PSP and Nintendo DS to get some money back since I'd already opened all the games) :( But I digress...

Anyways, again I'm just being genuinely curious, but I'm still not quite sure how you were able to extrapolate your strong statements. I checked out several of your quoted thread links (much appreciated BTW thanks for all the info) and most seems to only be a couple of pages long participated by a few repeating individuals. And the top poll link discussing high-dollar donation only had a couple of supporting votes and no reply posts...

[surur]

Ok, conceded, clearly its impossible to say how many people would buy such a utility. I do contend however that more people would buy it than buy this utility, and that they would be willing to pay more for it. I have seen a few people complaining about the"ok" problem, but have seen many people demand a solution to the bluetooth voice dialling dilemma.

I'm sure you agree with this?

Surur

[beq]

^ Yeah good point there :)

[ctmagnus]

In fact since buying my current PPC earlier this year I've spent well over US$1000 on PPC software alone (continuing from this point (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=38109&amp;start=10#331184)).

8O I thought I was bad with my $814.69USD on software since May 2001! I've only spent $84.77 so far this year.

[juni]

I'd buy this in a second if it was 4-5$. :)

[bnycastro]

i'd rather click the ok button as I don't see it as often. :D goodluck to the developer though. :mrgreen:

[Paragon]

I see no problem with the developers price for this. They do have to make a profit. The problem is that this should_easily_be_fixed_with_a_patch. :idea: Right?

[Garry [WMA]]

The problem is that this should_easily_be_fixed_with_a_patch. Right?

This may suprise people but I couldn't agree more. I kept putting developing this on the back-burner as I was sure Microsoft would getting round to patching this and I was hoping they would.

It does seem that the level of patches being released has dropped off recently and I wonder if that is because of the new version being not too far away.

It may also have to do with the negative publicity that tends to accompany every new patch because some manufacturer or other doesn't implement it. Although I can to a small extent understand the manufacturer's reasoning on this. Spending fairly considerable sums on generating a patch for a low margin device you no longer sell may not seem an econoomic proposition (although I would always prefer to have a good ongoing customer relationship)

I really hope Microsoft DO come up with some alternative update mechanism which side-steps the manufacturers.

[Fuego]

It's been a long time since I programmed, but surely this is 30 minutes of work to someone with the appropriate dev tools installed? c'mon, find window, send window message, sleep, repeat. In my day I'd have put it up for free as a community service, because charging even £1 for it would mean people expect support and that drives the cost up.

As for distributors taking a large slice, why use them anyway for such a simple kludge utility? Put it up on a website and take Paypal donations - you'd probably make the same money to cover costs (judging from what you're saying - and I know that PP donations don't bring in much) and be able to provide it at a value for money price.

10 bucks for this is just crazy. Ahh well, each to their own.