Size Matters: hw6500 Sizes up?

[Jon Westfall]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2005/02/treo_650_vs_ipa.html' target='_blank'>http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archive...650_vs_ipa.html</a><br /><br /></div><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/treo600_hw6500.jpg" /> <br /><br />Ubergizmo has an interesting article that seeks to find the size information on the hw6500 by using known sizes from other devices (i.e. the Treo 650, Ipaq 4355). The math looks reasonable, and if their calculations are correct, this thing isn't going to be too much bigger than other devices in its class at 2.9" wide and 4.95" High. Comparing that to the 6315 at 2.9" wide and 4.6" High, we can see its still fairly pocketable.<br /><br />As posted here before, the specs on this thing look pretty good. I don't know if its good enough to sacrifice WiFi for GPS, but pretty good all the same. With rumors flying that it may be around as early as April 2005, this year may be another year we spend wondering about HP's new IPaq Phone :roll:

[yslee]

Yikes, it isn't as small as I thought it'd be!

It'd be nice if it came in different versions. BT only, BT+GPS, BT+Wifi.. I guess they thought it won't be worth the hassle of doing that.

[g-funkster]

Yijkstra!

8O That looks real big. In fact, I wouldn't be suprised if the calculations were wrong, no way the 650 could be that much smaller in comparison. Further, Mr. 650 has a 320x320 and how much you wanna bet that big chunker won't have a 1900mah battery?

i love my 650. Still, I would give it up for a wmobile device that will offer me the same in form factor, battery life, performance and connectivity.

[mbranscum]

Fairly pocketable???!!!! Are you outta your freaking mind!? This thing is HUGE! 8O

[The PocketTV Team]

Interesting, this must be the first SQUARE-SCREEN Pocket PC on the market.

The screen should be 240x240 (or maybe 480x480 if it is hi-res).

I wonder how many Pocket PC apps will break with the SQUARE SCREEN :)

There are rumor that the iPAQ hw6500 will have the Intel 2700G video accelerator chip. This would make sense only if the display is 480x480, and it will allow good video performances with little battery use, as this chip uses less power than the CPU.

[Pdaholic]

Well, I own a 4355. If I imagine chopping off about an inch from the top, I think I can picture the size of the 6500. The 4355 isn't too bad--the screen is huge, and it's really light for its dimensions. But add a case to the thing, and it becomes enormous.

Neither screen is any good: the 650's screen is tiny, and the 6500's 240x240 resolution is embarrassing and appauling. Again, designs that come close, but leave alot to be desired.

And NO WIFI? I'll pass...

[The PocketTV Team]

the 6500's 240x240 resolution is embarrassing and appauling.
Do you know for sure that the 6500 resolution is 240x240 ? it could very well be 480x480.

[DaleReeck]

the 6500's 240x240 resolution is embarrassing and appauling.
Do you know for sure that the 6500 resolution is 240x240 ? it could very well be 480x480.

No, but considering the PocketPC manufacturers fear of putting high end features into their smartphones, I would be shocked if this were a "VGA" screen. Especially HP, who seems determined to not have one PDA that is "fully" loaded with all the top features. Every HP device is missing something that prevents it from being "the best". The 4700 has everything but 128MB of memory, those new 2000 series have everything but VGA, etc...

[Silver5]

That picture does NOT represent the real size of the device. The size of it is actually almost the same as the 6300 series iPAQ. I have a number of pics of the 6315 next to my Treo 600 and the size difference is not as great as is depicted in this photoshop.

[jngold_me]

HP just doesn't get it. While other companies are releasing PPC phone edition devices with the form factor of a 4100 series, HP insists on releasing portable "bricks" because everyone carries their PPC in a bag or purse. :roll:

[Jon Westfall]

Fairly pocketable???!!!! Are you outta your freaking mind!? This thing is HUGE! 8O

As Patrick once said to Spongebob
Sponge I'm a Big Man, a Big Big Man .

So my opinions on pocketability may slightly differ from norm.

Seriously though, to me, these dimensions seem fine. To each their own.

[saru83]

In my opinion the calculations are not 100% correct so its gonna be a bit smaller... :)

[DaleReeck]

Fairly pocketable???!!!! Are you outta your freaking mind!? This thing is HUGE! 8O

As Patrick once said to Spongebob
Sponge I'm a Big Man, a Big Big Man .

So my opinions on pocketability may slightly differ from norm.

Seriously though, to me, these dimensions seem fine. To each their own.

I agree. Patrick is a big, big man :)

Seriously...Apparently, people want the capabilities of the best, most feature packed laptop in the size of a Star Trek communicator "pin" that you can wear on your shirt. Otherwise, its a "brick". Sorry, but we aren't there yet technologically. People are going to have to have realistic expectations when it comes to smartphones.

Plus, there's a usability factor. A PDA is difficult to use if its too small.

[Edgar_]

I saw a quick 6500 slide at an HP briefing yesterday.

I'll play with the device next month in Cupertino (HP)

A> Q2 release
B> 4.5" x 2.8" x .63 " (treo 650 is 4.4 x 2.3 x 0.9 not including the antenna stub, so add .5"). My wife has a Treo, and yea it fits in a pocket, just too thick. If you want something smaller you are getting into the smartphone range. Blackberry 7210 (this is being touted internally by HP as the "blackberry killer") is 4.5 x 2.9 x 0.8 inches. so its smaller than a BB
C> GSM/GPRS/GPS/BT - no wifi
D> SD with SDIO (will support a wifi SD card)
E> mini SD
F>Releasing with Goodlink software - HP is waiting for RIM to settle their court case before going with Blackberry Connect


6320 being released in 8 weeks (6315 for Cingular - awaiting fcc final ok)

6700 being released Q3 - this is the 6500 with WiFi

Unfortunetely I didnt capture the other stats such as screen size or weight.