Neowin.net Unveils...

[Jason Dunn]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?id=26524&category=main' target='_blank'>http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?...4&category=main</a><br /><br /></div>At Microsoft's request, I've removed this post and the image. Neowin took down their article and their comments, but I'm leaving up the comments as a compromise. So for those of you who saw it, consider yourself lucky. ;-) To those that might have the article cached or whatnot, please don't re-publish it in the thread - thanks.

[marcm]

Can't wait until it comes out... :drool: ActiveSync looks nice too! :D

[Jonathon Watkins]

ActiveSync looks nice too! :D

Must be one of the few times anyone's said that! :wink: I'm looking forward to any improvements there anyway!

[paris]

will allow the synchronisation of Outlook contact pictures
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thats what i've been looking out for ;)

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[seeker]

Many aspects of the UI and the software update discussions sound very good. The next issue for the community, upon release of the software, is availability of this new version of the OS for existing users of HP 4705 and such given the orphaning of HP 5555 which was allowed to be done by HP with no recourse by MS.

Let us hope that there is a strong press from MS to strongly encourage HP and other manufacturers to come to the aide of the end users and make sure the new OS is made available at a cost level which is reasonable given the investment in the hardware.

---Opinions of an owner of HP 4705, HP 5555, HP 5450 and others before..
:roll:

[marcm]

ActiveSync looks nice too! :D

Must be one of the few times anyone's said that! :wink: I'm looking forward to any improvements there anyway!
I'm happy as long as it works! :D 8)

[entropy1980]

Hmm maybe NDA's up tomorrow.... :)

[Jonathon Watkins]

Let us hope that there is a strong press from MS to strongly encourage HP and other manufacturers to come to the aide of the end users and make sure the new OS is made available at a cost level which is reasonable given the investment in the hardware.

Well, my personal opinion is that the Dell X50 series should be upgradeable to the new OS, and I mean, Should. I got one round of OS upgrades on my X5, from PPC2002 to PPC2003, (though regrettably not to PPC2003SE). I am hopeful that Dell will do the same this time round, i.e. ship the X50 series with the new OS and release a user update for a nominal fee. Well, one can hope........

[Paragon]

....Ummm just a thought....Maybe Jason Warren would appreciate it if his phone numbers posted on the front page were blurred out. ;) Assuming they are real?!

Dave

[spaceman]

Any idea when a PPC with Magneto will be available? 2nd quarter 05?

[entropy1980]

Any idea when a PPC with Magneto will be available? 2nd quarter 05?
They state April 13th RTM so with MS's track record (Magneto was supposed to be out this last year dellllllaaaaaaayed ;) ) I would guess around June, which jives with past releases (Windows Mobile 2k3 was out last June, and the year before XScale Procs were introduced via the e740 around then as well) just an educated guess.

[entropy1980]

....Ummm just a thought....Maybe Jason Warren would appreciate it if his phone numbers posted on the front page were blurred out. ;) Assuming they are real?!

Dave Called him he said it was ok he could use the publicity! lol! :D (just kidding)

[Paragon]

:way to go:

[T-Will]

I really like the asthetic improvements to the UI. Will it be worth it for me to upgrade to a WM2K5 device? I'll have to wait and see...

[Darius Wey]

Okay, I'm definitely putting off my next Pocket PC purchase until this comes out. :D

[mclaughlinc]

Any idea when a PPC with Magneto will be available? 2nd quarter 05?

My bet is 4th quarter 2005 before we see devices released running these versions. And I would not hold my breathe for upgrades being offered by the ODM's.

Just my thoughts...

[KISSONLINEMobile]

I currently have the ultimate in design (IMHO), the IPAQ 4150.

As I have serious doubts HP or any other maker can recreate this design excellence in a new unit that uses Windows Mobile 5, or that HP will release an upgrade to existing IPAQ users, it looks like Windows Mobile 5 is something I will never be able take advantage of.

Sure would be nice if a third-party could release and support these OS upgrades to those of us who like our current units and do not see the need to plunk down $$$ for a new unit just to get the new OS.

[daninnj]

Did they remove the page? I get "Sorry, you do not have permission to do what you tried."

[mclaughlinc]

I currently have the ultimate in design (IMHO), the IPAQ 4150.
.

I feel the same way about my PDA2K. What a GREAT design!

[Foo Fighter]

AH...the Microsoft lawsuit fairy must have paid Neowin a visit I see. :twisted:

[ADBrown]

I currently have the ultimate in design (IMHO), the IPAQ 4150.
.

I feel the same way about my PDA2K. What a GREAT design!

And I feel similarly about my Dell Axim X50v... All of which are HTC designs. Go HTC.

[Paragon]

AH...the Microsoft lawsuit fairy must have paid Neowin a visit I see. :twisted:

Wow I'm surprised it took as long as it did.

Dave

[Jason Dunn]

At Microsoft's request, I've removed this post and the image. Neowin took down their article and their comments, but I'm leaving up the comments as a compromise. So for those of you who saw it, consider yourself lucky. Wink To those that might have the article cached or whatnot, please don't re-publish it in the thread - thanks.

[Sven Johannsen]

OK...they haven't got to Clinton Fitch yet, as of a few minutes ago, in case anyone missed it.

[Foo Fighter]

http://www.pocketfactory.com/images/Microsoft_Campus_mss.jpg

[Shagin099]

bink.nu still has it up... hes all tight with MS, maybe he has some kind of permission?

[xdev]

i dont suppose anyone would send me a cached version privately......

[KTamas]

If anyone has cached the images, please DONT send it to me.

[NLS]

Many aspects of the UI and the software update discussions sound very good. The next issue for the community, upon release of the software, is availability of this new version of the OS for existing users of HP 4705 and such given the orphaning of HP 5555 which was allowed to be done by HP with no recourse by MS.

Let us hope that there is a strong press from MS to strongly encourage HP and other manufacturers to come to the aide of the end users and make sure the new OS is made available at a cost level which is reasonable given the investment in the hardware.

---Opinions of an owner of HP 4705, HP 5555, HP 5450 and others before..
:roll:

so you are still using HP...
why on earth?
gave up on them
FOR EVER

[Wiggster]

For those of you interested, I managed to save one of the screens of the new Windows Mobile 2005 in action before Neowin took it down. You can see it here (http://www.wiggster.com/images/WM2005Sneak.jpg).

[Jonathon Watkins]

For those of you interested, I managed to save one of the screens of the new Windows Mobile 2005 in action before Neowin took it down. You can see it here (http://www.wiggster.com/images/WM2005Sneak.jpg).

Uh, yeah, that's what we saw. Right gang? ;-)

[snorbard]

Wow adwignall!
Thanks!

I thought I wouldn't get to see the Magneto sneak peak!
:wink:

[aroma]

Uh, yeah, that's what we saw. Right gang? ;-)

:way to go: YEP! Sure am glad I decided to take a quick gander at PPCT last night instead of waiting until this morning...

[jlp]

Okay, I'm definitely putting off my next Pocket PC purchase until this comes out. :D
Any idea when a PPC with Magneto will be available? 2nd quarter 05?

My bet is 4th quarter 2005 before we see devices released running these versions. And I would not hold my breathe for upgrades being offered by the ODM's.

That's the problem OEM have not managed to overcome.

They're loosing sales big time; and possibly for a long time too.

They should make deals like "Buy XYZ now and get a free upgrade to WM05 when it comes out". They should know by now which of their latest devices can run WM05.

If they don't offer that kind of deals, lots of people will just stop buying new devices until they know for sure which device will get the upgrade, when and at what price or when newer devices with WM05 will come out.

[Fishie]

http://www.pocketfactory.com/images/Microsoft_Campus_mss.jpg

Mweh, kinda old.

Baghdad Bob shouldve been replaced over a year ago by Donald Rumsfeld.

[Jonathan1]

i dont suppose anyone would send me a cached version privately......

Ditto! Send me pictures pleeeeease!!!

Son of a @$(*!!!

:cry: :cry:

I don't care about anything else other then Activestink 4. OMG!! Its only taken what? 5 years to get past version 3.x?!?! :roll: OK so I might care more if I could actually see the screen shots.

[Jonathan1]

Uh, yeah, that's what we saw. Right gang? ;-)

:way to go: YEP! Sure am glad I decided to take a quick gander at PPCT last night instead of waiting until this morning...

You guys suck. You know that right? ;) :p

[Jonathan1]

Oh and PS. I will go on a homicidal rampage over at HP if they don’t release an update for the 4700 when WM2005 is released. :snipersmile: :snipersmile:

[Jason Dunn]

bink.nu still has it up... hes all tight with MS, maybe he has some kind of permission?

Umm...being tight with MS is exactly the reason we had to take it down, so don't count on it. ;-)

[Foo Fighter]

I don't know what the fuss is over the screenshots. Based on what i've seen, there isn't much to look at. It's not like this is a radical new interface. More of a refinement really. :worried:

[Wiggster]

I think it's kinda weird how all new designs lately are nothing but gradients. I have nothing against them, it just seems that graphic designers are all working from the same book right now. I want rounder-looking graphics, not graphics that just show off smooth progressions of colors :wink:

[jasondearyou]

a little help "if any" on the new Magneto thing. ....

http://addict3d.org/index.php?page=viewarticle&amp;type=news&amp;ID=4714

http://davesipaq.com/news/004364/windows_mobile_2005_revealed

I think it's spreading now.

0X :devilboy:

[NLS]

Oh and PS. I will go on a homicidal rampage over at HP if they don’t release an update for the 4700 when WM2005 is released. :snipersmile: :snipersmile:

:devilboy: :devilboy: :devilboy:

you DON'T REALLY believe HP will release WM2k5 for 4700 DO YOU?

hahahahahahahahaha

that was nice, thanks, I needed that

[T-Will]

If HP (or any manufacturer) comes out with a high-res 4100 type device with WM2K5 then I would definitely consider upgrading, but for now I will not go any bigger than the 4100.