View Full Version : HP iPAQ hx2750 Pocket PC Overview Published on HP.com
Jason Dunn
11-11-2004, 01:51 AM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/ho/WF05a/21675-21679-21679-21679-21679-10244659.html' target='_blank'>http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/e...9-10244659.html</a><br /><br /></div><i>"Optimal combination of performance, expandability and secure wireless capability to meet any business demand. Featuring the Intel® PXA270 624 MHz high-performance processor and offering 256 MB total memory (128 MB ROM and 128 MB SDRAM) - up to 214 MB user available memory including 93 MB iPAQ File Store. Integrated Biometric fingerprint reader protects key business data by allowing unique fingerprint authentication (or a combination of a PIN and/or fingerprint) to the device. Integrated Wi-Fi (802.11b) enables high-speed wireless access to the Internet, e-mail, and corporate data solutions at the office, from home or at Wi-Fi hotspots. Bluetooth-enabled for simplified data synchronisation, file sharing and printing between personal devices and peripherals." </i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/hp-ipaq-pocket-pc-hx2700-ms_190x170.jpg" /> <br /><br />People were wondering where the 128 MB RAM iPAQ was, and here it is: the iPAQ hz2750. It has the usual WiFi, BT, etc., and a fast 624 Mhz processor. QVGA though, which is a bit odd for a high end unit. The biometric fingerprint scanner is back, which is cool. It mentions a CF modem, so it must have a CF slot - but when it talks about memory expansion, it only mentions SD. A little odd...and I have to say that I don't like the way it looks. Hopefully it will be better looking in person! :D
delfuhd
11-11-2004, 02:07 AM
Too bad HP isn't giving consumers everything new and liked in their PPC's.. The 4700 is close, but the price is just too blah for me...
256 meg? when it says 214 avalable, then an extra 93 meg File Store, does that mean the 256 and 93? so it would be more than 256 meg?
gmontielh
11-11-2004, 02:09 AM
Would have to see its price compared to Dell's X3i. Fingerprint feature is something I can live without but extra memory is nice to have although I can live without it for the time being. Why didn't HP include these features on their high-end (and expensive) unit baffles me.
ctmagnus
11-11-2004, 02:11 AM
Warranty: Two-year parts and labor in most regions
Two years standard is new.
christak
11-11-2004, 02:21 AM
I like some of the features of this thing, but I wouldn't buy it -- I "really" don't like the way it looks at all. As mentioned above, I hope it looks better "in person"... The Dell X50v is much more impressive IMHO...
:(
Jason Dunn
11-11-2004, 02:23 AM
256 meg? when it says 214 avalable, then an extra 93 meg File Store, does that mean the 256 and 93? so it would be more than 256 meg?
128 MB ROM + 128 MB RAM...but not 100% of it is usable.
Jason Dunn
11-11-2004, 02:24 AM
Why didn't HP include these features on their high-end (and expensive) unit baffles me.
Indeed, it makes NO sense. The 4700 is high-end in EVERY way except for the 64 MB of RAM...and considering how much RAM is needed to play back big VGA video files, 64 MB of RAM just isn't enough. :-(
felixdd
11-11-2004, 02:45 AM
This thing has an identity crisis....
QVGA...low end machine?
Nope it's got a lot of ram -- multimedia machine?
Nope...it's got a biometric scanner and game-unfriendly buttons, as well as no camera.
So...business machine? Nope, no VGA.
T-Will
11-11-2004, 02:54 AM
Why wouldn't they include VGA...HP makes no sense at all... :roll: :roll: :roll:
DaleReeck
11-11-2004, 03:04 AM
Why wouldn't they include VGA...HP makes no sense at all... :roll: :roll: :roll:
The same reason the 4700 only has 64MB of memory? :)
JohnJohn
11-11-2004, 03:07 AM
Anyone else notice the "thumboard" under the Supplies & Accessories tab? No picture, but maybe it would fit my 4700...ok I'm dreaming.
mmidgley
11-11-2004, 03:28 AM
Ok, I've been waiting for something to replace my iPAQ 5555. The 2750 was close to it until I saw QVGA. I've had that since 2000. The 4700 is shy on RAM (but does the extra flash make up for it?) and high on price and I'm not convinced on the touchpad thing (I need to try one out personally).
:evil: Can I have a nice merge of the 2750 and hx4700 ? Until they provide such, I won't be upgrading. I may end up waiting for the next real major OS upgrade from M$.
I don't really NEED the fingerprint thing, but it is nice to have security that I can use no-brainer style. Plus my wife can get into my iPAQ without remembering a PIN. (She is always concerned that if I died everything she'd need would be hidden in a PocketPC, at least hidden in her opinion).
edit: Hey, doesn't the hx in the model number indicate VGA screen? I thought that was the new model number convention...?
m.
Dave Conger
11-11-2004, 03:47 AM
I am very surprised this isn't a VGA device. None of the three in the hx2000 series are, which is kind of odd, especially when you look at the price of this device. Based on prices in the EU, it looks like the hx2750 could be a pretty spendy device ($600+). HP devices are always more expensive than the Dell counter part, but this could be a little much.
Dave Conger
11-11-2004, 03:50 AM
Anyone else notice the "thumboard" under the Supplies & Accessories tab? No picture, but maybe it would fit my 4700...ok I'm dreaming.
Speaking of accessories:
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/store.mv?c=ipaqhx2750
And the thumboard looks like this:
http://www.davespda.com/special/hx2000_keyboard.jpg
Dave Conger
11-11-2004, 03:52 AM
edit: Hey, doesn't the hx in the model number indicate VGA screen? I thought that was the new model number convention...?
It doesn't look like it. The two lower models are both hx's as well.... hx2110 and hx2410.
OSUKid7
11-11-2004, 03:55 AM
edit: Hey, doesn't the hx in the model number indicate VGA screen? I thought that was the new model number convention...?I've heard that the hx series are intended for buisness users, and rx series are for home users.
OSUKid7
11-11-2004, 03:58 AM
The thing that I don't understand with this PDA is why we haven't seen any real pictures of it yet. Even this one from the HP site looks like it was computer-generated (at least imo). :|
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/hp-ipaq-pocket-pc-hx2700-ms_190x170.jpg
Dave Conger
11-11-2004, 04:05 AM
The thing that I don't understand with this PDA is why we haven't seen any real pictures of it yet.
How about these:
http://www.davespda.com/special/hp_hx2000.htm
OSUKid7
11-11-2004, 04:54 AM
The thing that I don't understand with this PDA is why we haven't seen any real pictures of it yet.
How about these:
http://www.davespda.com/special/hp_hx2000.htmAh, thanks. Hadn't seen those before. :D
jasondearyou
11-11-2004, 05:23 AM
HP is just trying to make up for it's lapse witht eh ending of the 5555 line of ppc's.
tthiel
11-11-2004, 05:33 AM
QVGA..how quaint.
nirav28
11-11-2004, 05:52 AM
Why can't they put a microphone input jack on these things?. They have everything but the kitchen sink in them.
Not a single PPC maker has come out with a seperate external mic/line in jack, except for the PPC phone edition. I've been using the Pocket Skype client a lot since it's release. A line-in /mic jack would make a world of difference. :roll:
Jason Dunn
11-11-2004, 07:23 AM
Not a single PPC maker has come out with a seperate external mic/line in jack, except for the PPC phone edition. I've been using the Pocket Skype client a lot since it's release.
Hmm...I don't think that's true. I can't test this right now, but I'm 99% sure that the Axim X50 comes with a headphone jack that doubles as a line-in.
[checks PowerPoint file]
"3.5mm Headphone/Headset Jack: Headset support for VoIP and voice recognition application"
Yup, so that should do the trick.
trapper
11-11-2004, 07:49 AM
Hmm...I don't think that's true. I can't test this right now, but I'm 99% sure that the Axim X50 comes with a headphone jack that doubles as a line-in.
I thought the 4700 also had a mic jack.
. The 4700 is high-end in EVERY way except for the 64 MB of RAM...and considering how much RAM is needed to play back big VGA video files, 64 MB of RAM just isn't enough.
Some 4700 users are saying they only have 32 MB of RAM after loading all apps to ROM. That's a complete joke for a $650 device.
carphead
11-11-2004, 07:58 AM
QVGA..how quaint.
Nice quote! :wink:
rob_ocelot
11-11-2004, 08:24 AM
Anyone else notice the "thumboard" under the Supplies & Accessories tab? No picture, but maybe it would fit my 4700...ok I'm dreaming.
Speaking of accessories:
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/store.mv?c=ipaqhx2750
And the thumboard looks like this:
http://www.davespda.com/special/hx2000_keyboard.jpg
Mang, that thumboard is FUGLY... and I thought the 41xx/22xx thumboard stuck out like a (pardon the pun) sore thumb. At least the cheap 3rd party stuff MATCHES the style and lines of the PPC
I can't blame the key shape and layout on HP though, since RIM seems to have patented oval buttons.
bnycastro
11-11-2004, 10:23 AM
hp design is really on a freefall... but that's just my opinion.
i am tempted daily to get a device from another manufacturer but am worried i would not get the same level of support/service i have enjoyed from hp.
pharizna
11-11-2004, 10:47 AM
Hi!
You can read the HP specifications PDF file (http://www.pcdemano.com/~pcdemano/2004/11/hx2000_ds_eee.pdf) for this new iPAQ from ... our spanish site www.pcdemano.com (http://www.pcdemano.com).
:devilboy:
[email protected]
http://www.pcdemano.com
Zathras
11-11-2004, 11:47 AM
I don't mind the looks of this one so much. Better looking than the square faceted look of the 4700 series. HP hit the nail on the head with the 1900 and 4100 series. Why they deviate from that look is beyond me.
QVGA? PASS!
The buttons look neat, but I gotta think they would be awkward to use.
I have a 2215 now and it looks like I'll have it until the next generation comes out
jonathanchoo
11-11-2004, 12:50 PM
Why wouldn't they include VGA...HP makes no sense at all... :roll: :roll: :roll:
The same reason why there are new laptops that still offer 'only' XGA resolution. XGA has been in laptops for a long time, my 1998 laptop has one and yet it is still here even on some high end machines.
Resolution is not the only feature normal consumers look for.
The Yaz
11-11-2004, 03:11 PM
In a wierd way, I think the memory layout for the 4700 and 2750 make sense. If you look at it from a battery life perspective, HP reduced the amount of RAM to offset the added power drain of the VGA screen.
Based on the early reports of short battery life on the Dell, one could make the arguement that in these two offerings, HP is giving their business clients a choice of needs while still offering similar battery life.
Need VGA... here's the 4700.
Don't need VGA... go for the 2750.
I guess we are still waiting for the next gen batteries to make it possible to have the best of both worlds....
Steve 8)
Atomb
11-11-2004, 03:18 PM
Why wouldn't they include VGA...HP makes no sense at all... :roll: :roll: :roll:
The same reason why there are new laptops that still offer 'only' XGA resolution. XGA has been in laptops for a long time, my 1998 laptop has one and yet it is still here even on some high end machines.
Resolution is not the only feature normal consumers look for.
thanks for a glimpse of logic, Jonathan. With the memory/security/dual slots (which i'm 99.9% is true) plus 2003SE, this looks like a good handheld for my company.
Not all of us use our PPC to play games...VGA is not the end all when i have to worry about battery life and security!
Doug Raeburn
11-11-2004, 03:22 PM
In a wierd way, I think the memory layout for the 4700 and 2750 make sense. If you look at it from a battery life perspective, HP reduced the amount of RAM to offset the added power drain of the VGA screen.
If that's the case, then HP is running behind the competition in this area. The Loox 720 has a VGA screen just slightly larger than the 2750's QVGA screen, and it also has 128 MB of RAM. Yet in battery life tests, the 720 and 4700 run neck and neck. So functionally, the 720 is pretty much what the 2750 could have been with VGA. And from an everyday use standpoint, the 720 has outstanding battery life... leaves my 2215 in the dust.
IMO, the best of both worlds has already arrived... it just didn't come from HP. :wink:
Monty Gibson
11-11-2004, 03:40 PM
Anyone else notice the "thumboard" under the Supplies & Accessories tab? No picture, but maybe it would fit my 4700...ok I'm dreaming.
Speaking of accessories:
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/store.mv?c=ipaqhx2750
And the thumboard looks like this:
http://www.davespda.com/special/hx2000_keyboard.jpg
Question -: How does one actually use a Pocket PC in a "waterproof" casing like the one displayed in the first link? Just curious. Is it close enough to actually "tap" on the screen, or does the case read stylus movements and transfers them to the Pocket PC itself?
Thank you,
Monty Gibson
Monty Gibson
11-11-2004, 03:57 PM
IMO, the best of both worlds has already arrived... it just didn't come from HP. :wink:
And in an HP driven market where everything is circulated around HP and the up and coming new kid; Dell, we here in the Americas are a little "stuck." That's why some other OEM's have stopped making product for this particular region. So, which flavor do you like? Vanilla or Chocolate because for us; usually the flavor is HP or Dell. With a sprinkle or two of Audiovox, HTC, and et. al. if carriers decide to pick these devices up and market them.
Thank you,
Monty Gibson
gibson042
11-11-2004, 04:02 PM
The thing that I don't understand with this PDA is why we haven't seen any real pictures of it yet.
How about these:
http://www.davespda.com/special/hp_hx2000.htm
It's nice to see the unit (and, um, "nice" to see it's hideous thumboard), but I have a question. If all five of those pictures are real, then where's the fingerprint scanner on the first one?
http://www.davespda.com/special/hp_hx2000_a.jpg http://www.davespda.com/special/hp_hx2000_c.jpg
gibson042
11-11-2004, 04:06 PM
hp design is really on a freefall... but that's just my opinion.
I couldn't agree more.
i am tempted daily to get a device from another manufacturer but am worried i would not get the same level of support/service i have enjoyed from hp.
The question is, will you continue to get that same level of support and service from HP? Current trends indicate that you might not.
deemota
11-11-2004, 04:20 PM
Only the 2700 series will have the fingerprint scanner, the 2400 and 2100 will not. The first picture is of the lower end models.....
The thing that I don't understand with this PDA is why we haven't seen any real pictures of it yet.
How about these:
http://www.davespda.com/special/hp_hx2000.htm
It's nice to see the unit (and, um, "nice" to see it's hideous thumboard), but I have a question. If all five of those pictures are real, then where's the fingerprint scanner on the first one?
http://www.davespda.com/special/hp_hx2000_a.jpg http://www.davespda.com/special/hp_hx2000_c.jpg
Doug Raeburn
11-11-2004, 04:20 PM
IMO, the best of both worlds has already arrived... it just didn't come from HP. :wink:
And in an HP driven market where everything is circulated around HP and the up and coming new kid; Dell, we here in the Americas are a little "stuck." That's why some other OEM's have stopped making product for this particular region. So, which flavor do you like? Vanilla or Chocolate because for us; usually the flavor is HP or Dell. With a sprinkle or two of Audiovox, HTC, and et. al. if carriers decide to pick these devices up and market them.
Thank you,
Monty Gibson
The US site for Expansys offers the Loox 720, so we may not be as "stuck" as you think.
gibson042
11-11-2004, 05:16 PM
Only the 2700 series will have the fingerprint scanner, the 2400 and 2100 will not. The first picture is of the lower end models.....
Thanks for the clarification. I must've missed that in my incredulity over the lack of a VGA screen. :oops:
mhowie
11-11-2004, 06:48 PM
If that's the case, then HP is running behind the competition in this area. The Loox 720 has a VGA screen just slightly larger than the 2750's QVGA screen, and it also has 128 MB of RAM. Yet in battery life tests, the 720 and 4700 run neck and neck. So functionally, the 720 is pretty much what the 2750 could have been with VGA. And from an everyday use standpoint, the 720 has outstanding battery life... leaves my 2215 in the dust.
IMO, the best of both worlds has already arrived... it just didn't come from HP. :wink:
Excellent points. Your recent review has clouded things for me relative to my next PDA purchase. Prior to reading, I was only considering the hp and Dell VGA options!
I'm using a 2215 currently (since you brought up this excellent iPAQ)... question for you-- do you notice a discernable, quantifiable difference--compared to your 2215-- in speed (productivity) with apps such as AF and PI when using your 720? Assuming yes, is the difference even greater with the faster CPU-possessing 4700 and X50vs?
Thanks,
Doug Raeburn
11-11-2004, 09:16 PM
If that's the case, then HP is running behind the competition in this area. The Loox 720 has a VGA screen just slightly larger than the 2750's QVGA screen, and it also has 128 MB of RAM. Yet in battery life tests, the 720 and 4700 run neck and neck. So functionally, the 720 is pretty much what the 2750 could have been with VGA. And from an everyday use standpoint, the 720 has outstanding battery life... leaves my 2215 in the dust.
IMO, the best of both worlds has already arrived... it just didn't come from HP. :wink:
Excellent points. Your recent review has clouded things for me relative to my next PDA purchase. Prior to reading, I was only considering the hp and Dell VGA options!
I'm using a 2215 currently (since you brought up this excellent iPAQ)... question for you-- do you notice a discernable, quantifiable difference--compared to your 2215-- in speed (productivity) with apps such as AF and PI when using your 720? Assuming yes, is the difference even greater with the faster CPU-possessing 4700 and X50vs?
Thanks,
Howie...
Absolutely yes, both PI and AF are noticeably faster, most importantly in initial startup. This was a real downside on my 2215, as I frequently experienced delays in startup. I think that with the 2215, it was as much the RAM constraint as the processor speed. With my massive amounts of e-mail and PIM information, I was always running low on program memory on the 2215, but the 720 with 128 MB of RAM has lots of room to spare.
I can't speak to the faster processor units, since I haven't used them extensively myself. Perhaps Jason can speak to the Dell, since he reviewed it.
That being said, it would be interesting to see how the PIMs work on a 4700 with all of my data... then we'd see if RAM is the issue or the processor. Unfortunately, I don't have access to a 4700, so I can't test that situation.
Doug
h3seaking
11-12-2004, 01:00 AM
Whats the size?
That is the most important point for me. I will pass on VGA until they get to be the size of a 2215. The smaller it is, the more I carry it and use hence, use it.
Doug Raeburn
11-12-2004, 06:19 AM
Whats the size?
That is the most important point for me. I will pass on VGA until they get to be the size of a 2215. The smaller it is, the more I carry it and use hence, use it.
All of that information and much more is available in my review of the Loox 720 (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,33456).
But to answer your question, here's a chart listing the dimensions of several Pocket PCs, including the Loox 720 and the iPAQ 2215:
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/raeburn-oct04-loox720-02.gif
Note that the Loox 720 is slightly narrower and slightly thinner than the iPAQ 2215, while being only slightly longer. I used the 2215 as a standard of reference for convenient size when I considered VGA units, and the Loox 720 was the only unit that was the same general size as the 2215 in the most key "bulk" measurements... width and depth (thickness).
And I've found that the slight additional weight of the 720 is hardly noticeable at all when compared to the 2215.
By the way, here are the dimensions of the 2750 (the topic of this thread):
4.60" x 3.00" x 0.60"
5.80 oz.
So you'll note that the Loox 720 is narrower and just as thin as this unit as well. And in this case, weight is almost identical (probably related to the higher capacity battery as compared to the 2215).
In the end, the Loox 720 really sold me with its VGA screen, dual slots, dual wireless, high capacity battery and 128 MB of RAM, all in a package roughly the size of the iPAQ 2215. And the fact that the 720 comes with a warranty that covers parts and labor for 2 years (as compared to the iPAQ 4700's 1 year warranty) was just icing on the cake.
s_p_kay
11-12-2004, 06:26 PM
VGA display is no longer "optional" on a high end PPC IMO. It is now a requirement. Unit will not sell well IMO until introduced w/ VGA. Other than that finally nice to see HP ship w/ 128RAM + 128ROM, many new programs are more memory hungry and can use the additional RAM.
deemota
11-13-2004, 02:55 AM
I just don't get everybody's fascination with VGA. I saw the 4750 at CompUSA and I wasn't really impressed. Actually, I found the rx3715's screen much more to my liking. And before I get flamed, this is only my opinion. I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
Doug Raeburn
11-13-2004, 04:19 AM
No flaming, but I couldn't disagree more. Owning both an iPAQ 2215 (which I've been very happy with) and now a Loox 720 with VGA, the 2215 is now almost like looking at the screen through wax paper by comparison.
shawnc
11-13-2004, 08:22 AM
I just don't get everybody's fascination with VGA. I saw the 4750 at CompUSA and I wasn't really impressed. Actually, I found the rx3715's screen much more to my liking. And before I get flamed, this is only my opinion. I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
I said the same thing a while back. HP did a demo at my job and I got to see their VGA models and was completely underwhelmed. I noticed the difference, but it was barely perceptible when compared to my 4150. However, having said that, if I could find a unit with SD ONLY and the size of my 4150, I'd likely buy it. My problem is more with the fascination of all high-end models to include dual slots, thus adding bulk. Size is what made the PPC popular, why are we going in the other direction? With BT and WiFi, the overwhelming majority of users simply don't need dual slots. Oh well......I digress :roll: .
trapper
11-14-2004, 08:09 AM
HP did a demo at my job and I got to see their VGA models and was completely underwhelmed.
Did you see some pictures on the 4700? The difference is staggering. Pictures on the 4700 are like looking at photos. They look vastly better on it than on a 2215. I'm sure videos would show the same improvement. It IS a big deal - at least for pictures and videos. All high end units will have to have VGA from now on. It's like the difference between mono and color units 5 years ago.
Doug Raeburn
11-14-2004, 08:58 AM
Videos do show the same improvement. But even more mundane things are vastly improved. Text looks like it was printed on a page with a laser printer. The best comparison I can make is that the text on a QVGA unit looks like draft mode on an inkjet. This can make a huge difference when trying to get the most out of the limited screen size. With the crisp text, you can easily take Pocket Excel or Planmaker down one or more additional zoom levels and the text will still be legible, levels at which QVGA text is an indecipherable blur. As a result, you can easily include one or two additional columns on the screen, which really is a big deal when trying to view a spreadsheet on a 3.5-4.0 inch screen.
If you think that VGA is "no big deal", you certainly have the right to your opinion. But if you're basing such a conclusion on a brief view of a display model at CompUSA or a brief manufacturer's demo, you probably haven't seen or experienced all of the improvements that VGA brings to the everyday use of a Pocket PC. I've done so and believe me, it IS a big deal.
trapper
11-14-2004, 05:45 PM
But even more mundane things are vastly improved.
Great point. I don't have a VGA unit yet but when I looked at a Toshiba e800 a while back I couldn't believe how small the font could be while still being easily readable. For spreadsheet, Web page and similar app viewing VGA will make a huge difference as well. Usually the PDA screens look washed out under store lighting but not the 4700 at CompUSA, it looked incredible. I imagine that once you start using a VGA unit there's no way you'll go back to QVGA, unless someone comes out with a 3-D holographic QVGA system.
Doug Raeburn
11-15-2004, 01:39 AM
I imagine that once you start using a VGA unit there's no way you'll go back to QVGA, unless someone comes out with a 3-D holographic QVGA system.
You've got that right!!! :D
shawnc
11-15-2004, 03:13 AM
Did you see some pictures on the 4700? The difference is staggering. Pictures on the 4700 are like looking at photos. They look vastly better on it than on a 2215. I'm sure videos would show the same improvement. It IS a big deal - at least for pictures and videos.
Ahhh, this is helpful. I must admit I'm not much of a photo/camera person so I didn't focus on this. My focus was simply on the screen and how the basic applications/software looked. I didn't see the big difference.
If you think that VGA is "no big deal", you certainly have the right to your opinion. But if you're basing such a conclusion on a brief view of a display model at CompUSA or a brief manufacturer's demo, you probably haven't seen or experienced all of the improvements that VGA brings to the everyday use of a Pocket PC. I've done so and believe me, it IS a big deal.
So if I understand, I only think VGA is no big deal because "I don't get it". Just because I disagree doesn't mean I don't understand. I do get it, and it's NO big deal. By that I mean that they are not worth the current price differential. I didn't say there isn't any difference, just not much of one on the applications I utilize. At some point, prices will come down and then folks will be willing to pay a small premium for a small improvement. Until then, sales will be limited to those of us who simply like to have the latest gadgets.
deemota
11-15-2004, 03:41 AM
So if I understand, I only think VGA is no big deal because "I don't get it". Just because I disagree doesn't mean I don't understand. I do get it, and it's NO big deal. By that I mean that they are not worth the current price differential. I didn't say there isn't any difference, just not much of one on the applications I utilize. At some point, prices will come down and then folks will be willing to pay a small premium for a small improvement. Until then, sales will be limited to those of us who simply like to have the latest gadgets.
Amen brother......
Doug Raeburn
11-15-2004, 05:40 AM
So if I understand, I only think VGA is no big deal because "I don't get it". Just because I disagree doesn't mean I don't understand. I do get it, and it's NO big deal. By that I mean that they are not worth the current price differential. I didn't say there isn't any difference, just not much of one on the applications I utilize. At some point, prices will come down and then folks will be willing to pay a small premium for a small improvement. Until then, sales will be limited to those of us who simply like to have the latest gadgets.
I was simply saying that if your exposure was limited to a manufacturer's demo, you may have not seen the full spectrum of VGA capabilities that an owner has seen. By your own admission, you didn't consider the advantages VGA would bring to photos and video, so that was one thing you didn't "get", and that's a huge big part of the whole VGA experience.
At any rate, I consider the ability to legibly see more of your calendar, spreadsheet, word processing document, etc. at one time to be a great advantage, not a small improvement. That was my only point and, in my mind, those are the kinds of subtleties that you often don't experience in a limited scenario such as a demo or playing around with a display unit in a store. If I assumed too much there, there was nothing personal intended in my remarks, so there's no need to take offense. If you don't think that VGA brings enough to the Pocket PC to be worth the price premium, then by all means, wait until the price differential is more to your liking. Or don't ever change over, if that's your preference. It's your money and your right to spend it or not spend it as you see fit.
As for me, I'm a huge advocate of Pocket PCs and I'm always trying to push the envelope as to ways they can be used in a business setting. In that regard, I'm finding lots of ways in which VGA is a big advantage for me, so my ownership of such a unit goes far beyond the need to have the latest gadget (although I'd be lying if I were to say that need wasn't part of it... :wink: ).
bob1919a
11-29-2004, 12:04 AM
Just yesterday, I went to Best Buy to buy myself a 3-pack of stylus for my new hx 4700 Ipaq. Upon closer inspection of the supported models, I noticed the "hx 2000" series as being listed as supported. Therefore, this prooves that the hx 2000 series will come to the US (for all those naysayers and pessimests that say it won't). See pictures below. :devilboy:
http://xhardwarereviews.com/PDA/Pics/hx2000.jpg
http://xhardwarereviews.com/PDA/Pics/hx2000stylus.jpg
Darius Wey
11-29-2004, 09:10 AM
Just yesterday, I went to Best Buy to buy myself a 3-pack of stylus for my new hx 4700 Ipaq. Upon closer inspection of the supported models, I noticed the "hx 2000" series as being listed as supported. Therefore, this prooves that the hx 2000 series will come to the US (for all those naysayers and pessimests that say it won't). See pictures below. :devilboy:
Hang on... What if those packages were shipped over from another country? :P (Kidding) - I'm sure the hx2000 will arrive in the US. ;)
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