TomeRaider 3 Released

[Pat Logsdon]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.tomeraider.com/index.html' target='_blank'>http://www.tomeraider.com/index.html</a><br /><br /></div>"TomeRaider 3 is the newest incarnation, a total rewrite that has been 2 years in the making. Check out these new features:"<br /> <br />• HTML Support: TR3 now supports HTML verbatim, making it even easier to make TR3 files.<br />• Image support: Now images from the small to the massive can be displayed in TR3 files. Its about time.<br />• The Filter Builder: Never before possible filters and queries can now be constructed by anyone.<br />• Search Acceleration: Searching even tens of megabytes is now faster than you thought was possible.<br />• Super Compression: TR2 was good, TR3 is even better. The files are smaller and they work faster.<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/logsdon_20041021_tomeraider.gif" /> <br /><br />TomeRaider is a database application wrapped in a document reader and built for speed. I used an older version of this program a few years ago, and while it was kinda neat, I never used it much, and finally uninstalled it. I recall fast searches but a rather clunky interface. I have to say that I was pleasantly surprised by what I saw when I installed the new version last night - the UI is clean and compact, ClearType is supported, and searches are blazin' fast. <br /><br />The price is listed at $22.50, and there's a trial available that lets you read a few pages/perform a few searches before you get a nag screen and have to exit. Oh, and none of the old TomeRaider files will work with the new version - you'll have to download a trial of the Windows version and convert them one by one. Any TomeRaider users out there? Thoughts?

[delfuhd]

I used this for a month or two waaaaay back, but I couldnt find that many things to read with it, and it just ended up being an annoyance since I never acutally bought it, since I couldnt read a lot of pages (that doesnt really help if you ahve a dictionary with TomeRaider)

But it's a great program, I realyl enjoyed its features.

[JoshB]

I use TomeRaider for accesing the IMDB and WikiPedia databases I have on my 1GB SD card. I love the Wikipedia one - the file is about 400MB, but it's got text (no images, though that could change now with TR3) of all the entries, all hyperlinked (close to 1 million). I love walking around knowing I have an entire encyclopedia in my pocket!

Any word about upgrade pricing for TR2 owners?

[Jonathan_w]

Hi,
I've been using Tomeraider with by pocket pc for as long as I can remember. Did you kmow that you can use wikipedia with it? It's a 166mb encyclopedia. There should be one available pics in two to three weeks.

[KH]

Actually Tomeraider has always been one of first programs installed on any of my IPAQs, primarily because of the super-fast reference search abilities. I currently have Wikepedia installed - the version I have is almost 200M, but where else can you find a reference for PocketPC that will link from an overview of Pink Floyd to a biography of Syd Barrett, all self contained? Check out www.memoware.com for a lot of free material.

Having said this, I would normally be the first to continue buying, just to support this highly useful product, BUT probably won't until I better understand the impact of the format changes.

[crwoo]

Hey JOSHB are you sure that wikipedia file is 400MB the latest version i have is 182 or something and I've been waiting for a newer bigger file, If your file is newer I would apprieciate it if you would post link where i can download it.
Thanks

[24va]

does your old registration code still work?

[24va]

Will answer my own question:

If you have purchased TomeRaider since June 2003 you are entitled to a free upgrade, please email [email protected] with the subject "TR3 Free Upgrade".
If you have purchased TomeRaider prior to June 2003 you are entitled to 50% off the purchase price. Please email your proof of purchase email to [email protected] with the subject "TR3 50% Discount Upgrade" and we will send you a discount code. This offer expires on the 1st of January 2005.

[urugoof]

Tomeraider rules.

I can't wait to see an updated Wikipedia with images (or html at the very least) . I don't care if it's 1 gb. It is by far the best resource you can have on your Pocket PC in my opinion.

[JoshB]

Hey JOSHB are you sure that wikipedia file is 400MB the latest version i have is 182 or something and I've been waiting for a newer bigger file, If your file is newer I would apprieciate it if you would post link where i can download it.
ThanksThe one that they export and make available for download is only about 180MB. Last time I went to get that, it wasn't available, so I followed the steps to manually create my own - took the latest database dump snapshot, ran some Perl scripts on it to clean it up, remove images, reformat links, etc., then used the desktop version of TR to convert/import it.

The whole process took about 5 hours of compute time, but in the end, I had a more robust and up-to-date 390MB Wikipedia than the one that's available for download.

You can find the instructions for making your own from the daily database dump snapshots on the same page you download the 180MB version from. It's a bit of work, but worth it IMO.

[Typhoon]

TomeRaider?? When i saw the headline, I thought Eidos released Tomb Raider 3 for Pocket PC. I was ready to buy it... now I am dissapointed.

[mvirata]

I've always wondered, why was the software so closely named to "Tomb Raider". (I assume the video game came first?) Is there some intended connection between the two similar sounding names and/or how did they come up with "TomeRaider" as the title? It doesn't say anything to me other than almost saying Tome Raider.

[sheik]

Tome, as in "a large book, usually of a scholarly nature".
It is just a pun, to capitalise on the Lara Croft similarity and be a little bit clever at the same time :)

/\dam

[Kathy_Harris]

Most excellent. I purchased it in April strickly for wikkipedia. I've emailed them asking if there was an upgrade.

When I purchased it, I noted it has extensive use but the huge drawback was lack of image support.

Oooh what I could do with it now ... :)

[blini]

How does one create a Tomeraider document ?


is the result as good as with QuickLoockup from www.trancreative.com ?


:?:

[trapper]

I can't wait to see an updated Wikipedia with images (or html at the very least) . I don't care if it's 1 gb. It is by far the best resource you can have on your Pocket PC in my opinion.

Tomeraider is worth buying just to access Wikipedia. With image support and fast searching it will be almost perfect. Does anyone know whether Version 3 will move forward and back between links and restore the previous position. This was one of the few omissions in prior versions.

Did you kmow that you can use wikipedia with it? It's a 166mb encyclopedia. There should be one available pics in two to three weeks.

Where did you hear this - do you know it for a fact?

[Jonathan_w]

Tomeraider is worth buying just to access Wikipedia. With image support and fast searching it will be almost perfect. Does anyone know whether Version 3 will move forward and back between links and restore the previous position. This was one of the few omissions in prior versions.

I was a tomeriader3 beta tester. Tomeraider currently does not support this feature. I think they said it will in future version.

Also you have to convert all your files to tomeraider3. It took about 8 hours to convert wikipedia. It also chopped about 20mb from it, better compresion I think

[Pat Logsdon]

How does one create a Tomeraider document ?
Welcome, blini! To create a Tomeraider document, you'll need to download the trial version of the Windows Desktop software. This allows you to import .txt files, which it then indexes, segments, etc., and finally spits out highly optimized, searchable .tr3 file.

is the result as good as with QuickLoockup from www.trancreative.com?
I haven't used that particular app, but I think it would be hard to beat the speed of this new version. The incremental search itself is incredibly fast. In my test last night, I used the IMDB movie database of all movies between 1920 and 2002. The optimized .tr3 file was 14mb. Using the incremental search, I started typing in "Renaldo and Clara" (Bob Dylan's truly horrible 1978 movie). The title was highlighted by the time I typed "Renal" - less than 2 seconds. No clocking, no delay, no nothin'.

A full text search of all records from the beginning took 4 seconds from the time I hit the search button to when it brought up the record. Not too shabby, in my opinion.

[blini]

How does one create a Tomeraider document ?
Welcome, blini! To create a Tomeraider document, you'll need to download the trial version of the Windows Desktop software. This allows you to import .txt files, which it then indexes, segments, etc., and finally spits out highly optimized, searchable .tr3 file.

is the result as good as with QuickLoockup from www.trancreative.com?
I haven't used that particular app, but I think it would be hard to beat the speed of this new version. The incremental search itself is incredibly fast. In my test last night, I used the IMDB movie database of all movies between 1920 and 2002. The optimized .tr3 file was 14mb. Using the incremental search, I started typing in "Renaldo and Clara" (Bob Dylan's truly horrible 1978 movie). The title was highlighted by the time I typed "Renal" - less than 2 seconds. No clocking, no delay, no nothin'.

A full text search of all records from the beginning took 4 seconds from the time I hit the search button to when it brought up the record. Not too shabby, in my opinion.

Seems interresting ?


And is there hierarchical folders too ?
Does it create automatically indexes ?
links if special tags are made within orginal text ?
Is data compressed ? (I think it is if I remmebr well)

[aLTeReGo]

Since there is interest in it, I will let leak that a beta conversion script of the Wikipedia database optimized for version 3, including images, should be available in less than a month. Better get those 1GB SD cards ready. I am not a developer. This is not official...

[Rudism]

I've been using TR2 for a long time, and not just for the Wikipedia. I would use WinHTTrack to download entire websites of interest, then Tomeraidit to convert them to TR2 format for offline reading. This was only useful on websites that didn't make heavy use of images and whose main purpose was textual content (like snopes.com, various TV show episode guides, etc).

Seems like TR3 is going to remove the need for Tomeraidit and add HTML and images to boot.

AND according to their website I qualify for a free upgrade. Heaven!!!

[24va]

yeah, just missed the cutoff, bought it Aug 28, 2001. :)

I will pay for the upgrade, upgrade the ability to zoom in on a map in the CIA factbook helped me make the decision in about 2 zooms ;)

[Paul Martin]

yeah, just missed the cutoff, bought it Aug 28, 2001. :)

A little closer on my end...in January of '93. :lol: I really haven't decided whether I'll upgrade or not. I use the program occassionally, but not like a daily thing for me.

[24va]

I don't use it daily either, but I when I do, I would like the features that TR3 has now.

Need the Thesaurus to be converted and Wikepidia too

Wow, '93 huh? What did you run it on?

[Rudism]

Just a note... I've given up trying to convert my self-compiled TR2 wikipedia (aprox. 320MB) after several tries that caused TR3 to crash with MFC application errors right near the end. Something about a pure virtual function call...

Also the new version can't import the tab delimited files that the currently available perl scripts generate. Blah.

[Paul Martin]

Ummm '93. My Casio calculator/calendar---hacked to run a...yeah, right!. :oops: ...meant Jan '03...those numbers are so close together!!!

I do use it for a dictionary/thesaurus I've downloaded, about once a month or so, perhaps less.

[Typhoon]

hey what do you guys think of iSilo versus TomeRaider??

[24va]

hey what do you guys think of iSilo versus TomeRaider??

iSilo inhales deeply and rapidly ;)

[Typhoon]

hey what do you guys think of iSilo versus TomeRaider??

iSilo inhales deeply and rapidly ;)

What do you mean?

[24va]

it sucks

[Darius Wey]

it sucks

That's a pretty bold statement to make (I love the bold feature)! :lol:

What are your reasons?

[Typhoon]

Everytime I got a new faster PDA, I always assumed that iSilo's loading and browsing speed would increase to good speed...but to me it would always result in dissapointment. Does anyone know which is better in terms of content that is packaged in the proprietary file? Which would look better? I just ordered the ASUS a730. I hope iSilo can be better...

[Darius Wey]

Everytime I got a new faster PDA, I always assumed that iSilo's loading and browsing speed would increase to good speed...but to me it would always result in dissapointment. Does anyone know which is better in terms of content that is packaged in the proprietary file? Which would look better? I just ordered the ASUS a730. I hope iSilo can be better...

iSilo works brilliantly for me at the moment, and in the context of a "faster PDA", I only have the iPAQ h1940, which certainly isn't much of a competitor when you bring PDAs such as the hx4700, A730 and the X50v into the picture. Yet despite all this, my browsing and loading speeds are very fast with minimal delays.

It may help to update your version to the latest one. Version 4.15 is available on the iSilo website. (http://www.isilo.com)

[welovejesus]

hey what do you guys think of iSilo versus TomeRaider??

I have both on my PDA (TR2) and have found both beneficial. iSilo files are created with the free iSiloX (http://www.isilox.com/index.htm) file creator. iSiloX also provides an IE plugin which allows the capture of webpages. iSiloX captures pictures and links quite well and give decent compression. I have converted many published online books for use on my PDA. iSiloX can also create a file from an HTML file located on a desktop.

TomeRaider compresses well and works quite fast. It's interface (especially the PPC) reflects an reference approach. The windows version of TR2 crashed large files meant for creating TR2 files for the PDA. iSiloX created them without a hitch. Hopefully the windows version TR3 is better.

My recommendation: try them both with their corresponding file creators. iSilo can be found here (http://www.handango.com/brainstore/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=311&platformId=2&productType=2&productId=40391&sectionId=0&catalog=30), iSiloX here (http://www.isilox.com/index.htm), and TomeRiader here (http://www.tomeraider.com/index.html).

[welovejesus]

iSilo works brilliantly for me at the moment, and in the context of a "faster PDA", I only have the iPAQ h1940, which certainly isn't much of a competitor when you bring PDAs such as the hx4700, A730 and the X50v into the picture. Yet despite all this, my browsing and loading speeds are very fast with minimal delays.

It may help to update your version to the latest one. Version 4.15 is available on the iSilo website. (http://www.isilo.com)

DJ Apod,
iSilo works great for me as well. One file was compressed to 78M from a 180M text file. The text search function finish quite fast.

[thomas1973]

I use Tomeraider daily, as the pharmaceutical catalogue in Denmark is available in tr format, and also the ICD-10 diagnosis codes we use at my hospital. I'm really happy with the speed of things on Tomeraider (although things are slightly slower from my SD card). It's also a stable program, and I hope that's ported over to TR3.

I'm thrilled about the new version, especially the full text search function. I've missed that in the current one.

I've also loved having Wikipedia on my PPC, and the movie database, IMDB. Just having these are worth the price of Tomeraider! I've used the CIA factbook on iSilo earlier, and I'm looking forward to trying it on TR3. I'm looking forward to more of the old database files available in TR2 to come in new, improved versions taking advantage of the new features in TR3.


hey what do you guys think of iSilo versus TomeRaider??

For reference material, I prefer TR. The index lookup is faster and more convenient, IMO, and now that TR supports images and more HTML tags, I don't see the big need for iSilo, as far as reference material go...


Thomas.

[blini]

I use Tomeraider daily, as the pharmaceutical catalogue in Denmark is available in tr format, and also the ICD-10 diagnosis codes we use at my hospital. I'm really happy with the speed of things on Tomeraider (although things are slightly slower from my SD card). It's also a stable program, and I hope that's ported over to TR3.


is it only Diagnosis codes ?

DO you also have the definitions/criteria ?


could you share them ?

[jlp]

Would love to see the TR3 version of The Kama Sutra with pix &lt;DRH> :twisted:

[SteveHoward999]

You can find the instructions for making your own from the daily database dump snapshots on the same page you download the 180MB version from. It's a bit of work, but worth it IMO.

Weird. I just downloaded the 180 Mb version ... all 6 or 7 zip files. I cannot open even one of the zip files -- all claim to be corrupt, yet the checksum checks out fine. Do I need a particular zip program to extract these archives?

[DaViD_BRaNDoN]

Have been using Tomeraider since the days of iPAQ H3150. Very clean and super fast

[Typhoon]

Tomb Raider runs great on my PDA...oh woops...wrong forum...

[thomas1973]

I use Tomeraider daily, as the pharmaceutical catalogue in Denmark is available in tr format, and also the ICD-10 diagnosis codes we use at my hospital. I'm really happy with the speed of things on Tomeraider (although things are slightly slower from my SD card). It's also a stable program, and I hope that's ported over to TR3.


is it only Diagnosis codes ?

DO you also have the definitions/criteria ?

could you share them ?

Yep, it's only the diagnosis codes. I'd love to have the criterias as well... That would just be a LOT more work. The diagnosis codes are in DANISH, so they're only interesting to people from the Scandinavian countries. If you're still interested, check out www.pdamed.dk and browse/search over there. I downloaded it a loong time ago, so it's better to get it from the updated source :wink:


Thomas.

[upplepop]

Anyone know where I can still download the old Version 2 for Windows? I need to convert some files to people who are still using the old version.

EDIT: By the way, I have tried the Export to TR2 utility found in TR3, but it does not export my document properly. It has problems with hypertexting.

[SteveHoward999]

I bought version 2.2 a while ago. It won't open version 2 files generated form TR3 PC version, so I was looking for a newer version. It looks like the PPC version went to at least 2.8 before 3.0 ... I'd love to get access to one of these later installers too ...

[upplepop]

I was able find an old installer. Currently, you can get version 2.8 for Windows at Download.com. If you want it, better grab it in a hurry before they update it!

http://www.download.com/TomeRaider/3000-2125_4-8803242.html?tag=lst-0-1

[SteveHoward999]

yeah but that's for Windows - I want the older installer for PocketPC ... I found several sites that claimed to have it, but none that actually did.

[timmy]

Hi,

I have the 2.6x version for PPC. Of course it's the version downloaded from Proporta, and you have to have your reg code to unlock it.

Where to mail it?

regs Timmy

[SteveHoward999]

Thanks Tommy. Another member posted me privately with the same installer. Then I learned that the problem I was having was because TR2 cannot read files from an SD card unless they are in a My Documents folder tree.

[foebea]

Here's the scoop on Wikipedia with images.

The full with images version is currently 1.5 gb, and it is not working :)

The problem is that the windows tomeraider program is having problems with part of the beta scripts during the conversion process. The developer (Eric) let me know that he has contacted Proporta and they are rewriting parts of tomeraider to make it work with the new wikipedia scripts. Eric is still hopefull this will be ready soon, but it still has some work left to do.
There are thousands of errors and he works them out by hand on an individual basis, so it can be slow going.

This is for the English version, btw. some of the other languages should be working now on beta.

Once this has been finished the 1.5 gig file will be available for downlaod and he thinks he will also be able to make cds available. The smaller version (no images) will also be available.

I urge anyone who gets one of the new copies from him when it becomes available to click on his paypal link. He has very much time invested in this.

edit: im not a developer, i just emailed him and asked some questions :)

[24va]

dang 1.5g

2g cf here I come.

Will come in handy with my Dell x50v cf and sd will have a total of 3g

[24va]

text only version is up

http://download.wikimedia.org/tomeraider/current_tr3/

!!!518MB!!!!

[Jonathon Watkins]

text only version is up

http://download.wikimedia.org/tomeraider/current_tr3/

!!!518MB!!!!

Excellent! Thanks for the heads up. :)

[Dave Beauvais]

I downloaded the two Internet Movie Database TR3 files from the TomeRaider 3 files page (http://www.tomeraider.com/pages/tr3files.htm) and have a question about something mentioned there. (I've gotten no reply from Proporta.) The second file listed -- the IMDB People file has the following in the description: "It [sic] ideally suited for testing out the reference link feature in Tr3"

I would interpret that as meaning you can link to data in other TR3 files -- something that would be very handy with the two IMDB files. You could link from the Movie file to the People file when clicking a actor's name, for example. Does anyone know what they actually mean by "reference link?" I find no mention of it in the TomeRaider 3 help file, and my question to the folks at Proporta has gone unanswered.