Has anyone received an X50v yet?

[havrek]

I ordered my x50v today and the ship date is 11/23. I was looking at it on Friday and if I would have ordered then my ship date would have been 11/19.
Has anyone gotten one yet besides those lucky reviewers?
What is the earliest ship date out there for us normal folk?

[MPSmith]

my expected ship date is 11-17.

[Sven Johannsen]

I think 11-17 was the earliest date estimate. I ordered mine at about 5 AM on the first day and that seemed to be what was being handed out then. I'm hoping that it was a WAG and that they were hedging against more orders than they anticipated. If it comes earlier, cool. If not OK too. Maybe they'll have the Media Player buttons update out before any one actually gets one :)

[Darius Wey]

You know...all of a sudden the Australian release date of late October doesn't seem too poor anymore.

[Sven Johannsen]

You know...all of a sudden the Australian release date of late October doesn't seem too poor anymore.

The release date is when you get to get in line. ;)

[Darius Wey]

You know...all of a sudden the Australian release date of late October doesn't seem too poor anymore.

The release date is when you get to get in line. ;)

Damn it. You're not meant to state the obvious. :P

[havrek]

What is the media player button update about?

[Darius Wey]

What is the media player button update about?

It's making reference to how you can't map non-directional buttons to certain functions in WMP10 Mobile.

You can read more about it in this thread. (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33387)

[rzanology]

my date is 11-22 :(

Why is it taking so long!!!!!

[ChemNerd]

I understand the wait is hard, but you have to understand that it's only taking them a month after announcing them to get them out. I still can't find an HP 4700 series in any local store and that was announce months ago.

Part of the hold up is the VGA screen - they're incredably hard to make and a lot of them have to be throw away. We're talking many many many pixels on a very small screen. Even with normal LCD monitors they end up discarding a fair ammount (40% I heard at once - not sure though) because they simply aren't good enough. So the reason the Dell ppcs are taking so long is because they can't get enough LCD screens, it's a very special and very new type of screen.

So blame the feature you so so desire about this device for causing the delay because I promise you thats what it is.

[Kati Compton]

So, my date is 11-18. I think it's mainly that Dell announces when they're "about ready", as in, the design is finalized, but they don't actually have more than the review models in stock. So the alternative is that they could have announced in mid-November and had immediate shipping, but this way it works out better for things like Christmas sales.

[rzanology]

could it be they are tweaking it? i noticed the x30 outperfomed the ipaq 4700 on most benchmarks....where as the 4700 out performed the x50v. that didnt make sence to me....do you think they are making things run a little better with the device?

[Fishie]

I understand the wait is hard, but you have to understand that it's only taking them a month after announcing them to get them out. I still can't find an HP 4700 series in any local store and that was announce months ago.

Part of the hold up is the VGA screen - they're incredably hard to make and a lot of them have to be throw away. We're talking many many many pixels on a very small screen. Even with normal LCD monitors they end up discarding a fair ammount (40% I heard at once - not sure though) because they simply aren't good enough. So the reason the Dell ppcs are taking so long is because they can't get enough LCD screens, it's a very special and very new type of screen.

So blame the feature you so so desire about this device for causing the delay because I promise you thats what it is.

Gee Toshiba must have some stealth supersecret technology then ASUS and Sony etcetera as well.

[Kati Compton]

could it be they are tweaking it? i noticed the x30 outperfomed the ipaq 4700 on most benchmarks....where as the 4700 out performed the x50v. that didnt make sence to me....do you think they are making things run a little better with the device?
I doubt it - I think it's a quantity issue. The reason the VGA PPCs are being outperformed by fast QVGA PPCs is that the VGA ones have to do 4x as much work to fill the screen. Also, for the X50v in particular, I don't believe the benchmarking software (currently) takes advantage of the graphics coprocessor.

[rzanology]

:( i sure hope its better than the 4700. this is the first time i've gone with a ppc other than an ipaq. I only did it because its 150 cheaper and the graphic cards seems better. I hope this doesnt bite me in da azz! Damn dell....

[Kati Compton]

:( i sure hope its better than the 4700. this is the first time i've gone with a ppc other than an ipaq. I only did it because its 150 cheaper and the graphic cards seems better. I hope this doesnt bite me in da azz! Damn dell....
Well, I could be wrong, and there could be a driver update. But even if I'm right, I'm not worried. For software that's still being developed, at least, there's a good chance most developers will see the advantage of supporting the graphics chip in the X50v. I mean, Dell is really going to sell quite a number of units if their past record is of any indication.

I strongly suspect (and hope) for example that betaplayer will be updated. I actually emailed Dell Customer Service to ask that they think about sending free units to some of the more popular developers where the graphics support is really going to be necessary. I was given a snail-mail address to write to - I'll try to get that letter out later this week.

If you're concerned, you may want to also ping customer service (politely!) about it.

Basically, as far as I can tell, it's a software problem, not a hardware problem. And software problems are overall easier to fix.

[ChemNerd]

I understand the wait is hard, but you have to understand that it's only taking them a month after announcing them to get them out. I still can't find an HP 4700 series in any local store and that was announce months ago.

Part of the hold up is the VGA screen - they're incredably hard to make and a lot of them have to be throw away. We're talking many many many pixels on a very small screen. Even with normal LCD monitors they end up discarding a fair ammount (40% I heard at once - not sure though) because they simply aren't good enough. So the reason the Dell ppcs are taking so long is because they can't get enough LCD screens, it's a very special and very new type of screen.

So blame the feature you so so desire about this device for causing the delay because I promise you thats what it is.

Gee Toshiba must have some stealth supersecret technology then ASUS and Sony etcetera as well.

Toshiba also probably waited to announce their device until they had actual units made. The VGA screens were calls for delay in ALL VGA Pocket PCs and what takes so long to get them done. HP even delayed their device over a month from when they originally planed due simply to this issue alone. If you haven't heard much on the topic in regards to ASUS and Fujitsu-Siemens it's because (1) they're not making as many and (2) they're no longer in the US.

If you don't believe me, go and do some reasearch yourself. VGA screens with a size of less than 4 inches gives an amazing dot pitch and they are hard to make - notice that not a single VGA PPC is less than 500 (499 and 499.99 and the like are for purposes 500 dollars).

Also Dell decided to announce they're product before they had any - the one you're ordering is in order of their production. Things like this happen a lot with high end technology - people place orders for the production models and wait for them to be made.

As for tweaking things - I don't really know why they would. This unit has been on the drawing boards for months and I highly doubt they're making changes with a month to go. This is kind of end game here and any changes needed now would be a little late. If the benchmarks are truely representative of the device then I'd expect Dell to be working on some type of firmware upgrade to work on some of these issues - but this will be an after the fact doing, not a predone one.

[Rippeer]

I understand the wait is hard, but you have to understand that it's only taking them a month after announcing them to get them out. I still can't find an HP 4700 series in any local store and that was announce months ago.

Part of the hold up is the VGA screen - they're incredably hard to make and a lot of them have to be throw away. We're talking many many many pixels on a very small screen. Even with normal LCD monitors they end up discarding a fair ammount (40% I heard at once - not sure though) because they simply aren't good enough. So the reason the Dell ppcs are taking so long is because they can't get enough LCD screens, it's a very special and very new type of screen.

So blame the feature you so so desire about this device for causing the delay because I promise you thats what it is.

Gee Toshiba must have some stealth supersecret technology then ASUS and Sony etcetera as well.

Toshiba also probably waited to announce their device until they had actual units made. The VGA screens were calls for delay in ALL VGA Pocket PCs and what takes so long to get them done. HP even delayed their device over a month from when they originally planed due simply to this issue alone. If you haven't heard much on the topic in regards to ASUS and Fujitsu-Siemens it's because (1) they're not making as many and (2) they're no longer in the US.

If you don't believe me, go and do some reasearch yourself. VGA screens with a size of less than 4 inches gives an amazing dot pitch and they are hard to make - notice that not a single VGA PPC is less than 500 (499 and 499.99 and the like are for purposes 500 dollars).

Also Dell decided to announce they're product before they had any - the one you're ordering is in order of their production. Things like this happen a lot with high end technology - people place orders for the production models and wait for them to be made.

As for tweaking things - I don't really know why they would. This unit has been on the drawing boards for months and I highly doubt they're making changes with a month to go. This is kind of end game here and any changes needed now would be a little late. If the benchmarks are truely representative of the device then I'd expect Dell to be working on some type of firmware upgrade to work on some of these issues - but this will be an after the fact doing, not a predone one.

Toshiba is using an a 4" screen which results in a lower DPI. As for LCD's being chucked, what happen is LCD's that fail to make the manufacture quality grade's are resold to second tier OEM and rebranded and sold cheaply. The screens that don't meet second tier OEM standards are resold to third tier OEM's etc.

For example Dell does not manufacture LCD's, they buy them from Samsung and other companies.

http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/toshiba-e800-en.shtml

Has some interesting information on LCD's and OLED's.