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Janak Parekh
10-05-2004, 05:15 AM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://akiba.sorobangeeks.com/news_8732.html' target='_blank'>http://akiba.sorobangeeks.com/news_8732.html</a><br /><br /></div>I do! And no, I'm not kidding. :drool: Only catch: you have to move to Japan. :cry:<br /><br /><i>"Yahoo joins the small group of ISP's in Japan that offer 1Gbps (thanks to optic fiber connections). Agreed, you have to share this speed with 32 other customers, but the offer is quite astonishing anyway, and sharing will reduce the cost (and as a consequence the price)."</i>

zehubert
10-05-2004, 05:55 AM
1Gb = 1024Mb
1024Mb / 32 users = 32Mb

That's 32MB per user, that (might) go up to 1GB if you are the only person using the network.

In Sweden, they offer 100Mb guaranteed for ($79.49 / mo) (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2004/08/news-100mbsec-internet-access.html)

Don't get me wrong, I would be sooo happy with 32Mb guaranteed!

In caliornia you're happy if you get 5Mb. Why is it so cool in those other places? I want 100Mb... booooo :(

nuka_t
10-05-2004, 07:19 AM
you get 5??? :(

i only get 3 in CA.

not that im complaining really...

ADBrown
10-05-2004, 07:24 AM
you get 5??? :(

i only get 3 in CA.

not that im complaining really...

You get 3 megabits? I only get one and a half at my luckiest, and that features a high rate of packet loss, ~750 ms latency, and periodic total outages. I AM complaining. :devilboy:

nuka_t
10-05-2004, 07:33 AM
ya, i get the outages too. im going to call and see whats up with those. i never had this problem when i was still at 1.5mb.

theone3
10-05-2004, 08:19 AM
techically, today, they can get 3tb through these cables (although theoretically there is no practical limit, that's the most used commercially).

I don't see the point of capping speeds, I mean, at the end of the day, who will have the capacity to actually USE 3TB of data in a second. No hard drive can handle it, no modem can handle it without you paying a *large* fortune, and you can't watch 428 TOTAL DVDs in one second. There's no techical excuse for a limit as slow as 5mb/s.

Now 1GB/s I can understand, dont want those DC++'ers to take over completely, and i don't think many hard drives could handle much more. :devilboy:

theone3
10-05-2004, 08:30 AM
1Gb = 1024Mb
1024Mb / 32 users = 32Mb

That's 32MB per user, that (might) go up to 1GB if you are the only person using the network.
I want you to think about this for a second, very carefully, then scroll down.













Fool. :devilboy:




Raise your hand if you are connected 24 hours a day, downloading at the highest speed possible. Keep your hand up if you would STILL do this with a 32mbit link. At this speed, it takes only a few hours to download a full 80GB hard disk, and if you're the only person downloading at the time, or the network is mostly empty, you could have it done in, you guessed it, 640 seconds. Now, if you had 8*Microsofts connected to this system, I could understand your concern. I remind you that this is 1 GB per SECOND.

ADBrown
10-05-2004, 08:50 AM
I think that you're confusing your numbers. Judging from the original post, we're talking about a total of 1 gigaBIT, not 1 gigaBYTE. So, each user gets roughly 4 MBytes per second even at peak traffic, scaling up to 125 MBytes when everyone else is off.

Daimaou
10-05-2004, 09:23 AM
1Gb = 1024Mb
1024Mb / 32 users = 32Mb

That's 32MB per user, that (might) go up to 1GB if you are the only person using the network.

In Sweden, they offer 100Mb guaranteed for ($79.49 / mo) (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2004/08/news-100mbsec-internet-access.html)

Don't get me wrong, I would be sooo happy with 32Mb guaranteed!

In caliornia you're happy if you get 5Mb. Why is it so cool in those other places? I want 100Mb... booooo :(

Hikari Fiber propose 100Mb / user in Tokyo ;) Yahoo BB is the WORST EVER ISP in Japan, a lot of complain from clients and a lake of security, their client database has been stolen twice... :?

dean_shan
10-05-2004, 09:24 AM
1Gb = 1024Mb

Uh no, 1 Gigabyte (GB) equals 1024MB. 1Gb=128 megabytes.

Oleander
10-05-2004, 09:44 AM
I have a gigabit connection from my computer (at work) and all the way to the DIX (http://www.dix.dk/). It's very rarely that I can use all that bandwith to anything since most servers don't provide that much. The fastest I've downloaded was when I retrieved all 4 cd's of the Fedora RC2 pack from 3 different servers. 4 cd's in 13 min. XP SP1 did download in 29 sec. but that is indeed a rarity, so unless the general bandwith gets a boost, there not much use of all that speed...

Kiwi_in_tok
10-05-2004, 12:18 PM
I don't know about yahoo however I have an NTT 100mg fiber connection at home and we get around 60~70meg when testing to the local NTT test site and around 3meg when testing to the US West coast.

However in Tokyo you can also get 8,12,24 and 48meg ADSL so the choice is wide.

bjornkeizers
10-05-2004, 02:00 PM
Raise your hand if you are connected 24 hours a day, downloading at the highest speed possible.


*raises hand*


Keep your hand up if you would STILL do this with a 32mbit link.


*still up*

Dude, at 32 mbit, you think I'd leave my house? I think not! I'd hook up a raid array and collect every movie known to man. I could download movies in minutes, just like the cool kids at the UT's campus. 8O

1gig? Well, you get your pick of any bodypart in trade for 1 gig! I'd hook up two PC's linked to a terabyte of storage and LET A RIP!

SteveHoward999
10-05-2004, 02:43 PM
Dude, at 32 mbit, you think I'd leave my house? I think not! I'd hook up a raid array and collect every movie known to man. .....I'd hook up two PC's linked to a terabyte of storage and LET A RIP!


So what would you do after the first week? That terabyte would not take long to fill...

disconnected
10-05-2004, 04:31 PM
At that speed, would we have to save anything? I'd like to just stream the movies or whatever......unlimited tv channels, the ability to watch everthing in the world live, real-time -- a football game in California, surfing in Austraila, sailing off the coast of Spain, penguins in the Antarctic just for background. I really could have a totally virtual life without leaving the house.

Kati Compton
10-05-2004, 04:45 PM
At that speed, would we have to save anything?
I'd like to save purchased movies/music for the times my net connection goes down... ;)

For some other people, they'd probably prefer to save things because they're using an "Arrrrr, matey!" model of digial media use.

Howard2k
10-05-2004, 11:11 PM
Actually 1 Gigabit/s (Gb/s) = 1,000,000,000 Bits per second.

1,000 bits per second = 1Kb/s
1,000,000 bits per second = 1Mb/s
1,000,000,000 bits per second = 1Gb/s

1Gb/s into 32 users would be 31.25Mb/s.


Of course - your PC counts using binary. So it sees a 1MB as 1,048,576 bytes. 31.25Mb/s would be seen as ~3.7MB/s.

Of course throughput is not a function of bandwidth alone. It also has to account for packet loss, latency and protocol inefficiences. That's why when you download a large file from an overseas (or cross continent) server it's more difficult to max out your link than with local traffic.


Either way - 1Gb/s is a decent chunk of bandwidth :)

zehubert
10-06-2004, 05:29 AM
1Gb = 1024Mb

Uh no, 1 Gigabyte (GB) equals 1024MB. 1Gb=128 megabytes.

Actually I meant 1 Giga Bit = 1024 Mega Bit.
But yes, 1024 Mega Bit = 128 Mega Byte (1024/8=128)

MB = Mega Byte
Mb = Mega Bit

It's pretty easy to make a typ and say MB while meaning Mb. (I did one myself, I think)