View Full Version : Okay, Here's A Quick Question For You...
Brad Adrian
09-18-2004, 09:00 AM
I was tweaking some of my Pocket PC applications today, adding a couple, deleting a couple, and so on. Every time I tapped on <i>Remove Programs</i>, I had to scroll and scroll and search and search, just to find the desired entry! I soon realized I must have WAY too many applications installed on my everyday Pocket PC.<br /><br />I took a quick count and -- MAN! -- I have 72 entries! That has GOT to be the definition of overkill! <br /><br />But maybe I'm not all that atypical... How many entries do YOU have in your <i>Remove Programs</i> list?
jonathanchoo
09-18-2004, 09:08 AM
I have got 20 in my remove list although I have another 60 not on the list (most programs have been 'uninstalled' but still work straight from the memory card).
supergrubi
09-18-2004, 09:18 AM
I have only 13 entries, there were more, but i uninstall useless tools asap.
surur
09-18-2004, 09:58 AM
I have 48 entries. Is that why its so slow at times? 8O
Surur
rhmorrison
09-18-2004, 10:51 AM
I have only 68 entries.
Oleander
09-18-2004, 11:30 AM
"only" 62 entries - all installed. No wonder it takes forever when I do a soft reset.
geoffrobinson
09-18-2004, 11:32 AM
67 on mine......time for a cleanout! :roll:
seatec
09-18-2004, 12:08 PM
70 on mine that show up on the remove list and who knows how many direct installs and just the executable on flash cards (33 programs on SD, and 16 on CF card) guess I need to clear it out and start with what I actually still use!!!!!!
I have 40 on my iPaq 6315, see list below, but most of them relevant for my job, or at least the functionality of my PPC PE device (all LEGALLY puchased as well(!):
Astraware Bejeweled
Zendrui PocketZenPhone
Ruksun News Force
Vieka PocketGNUGo
Adrian Software HTTPMail
IMAGiNET Finger ClixC
Conduits Presentation Pack 1
Conduits Pocket Slides Languages
Conduits Pocket Slides
TomTom Navigator Voice
AIM Brainstorm
Adobe Acrobat Reader 1.0
9292 PocketWijzer
TomTom ~ GPS
TomTom Navigator
WebIS Pocket Informant Icon Pack
WebIS Pocket Informant Color Schemes
WebIS Pocket Informant 5
Twiddlebit Pocket Plan
Sprite Software Sprite Backup
Sprite Software Space
Spb Pocket Plus
Spb GPRS Monitor
Southway Corporation Ltd - MultiIE
ScaryBear Software ClearNotify
ScaryBear Software Check Notifications
Resco Registry Add-in
Resco FTP Add-in
Resco Explorer 2003
R&F Cons TimeTTracker MX
PC Counselor Tweaks2k2 .NET
Omega One 1-Calc
NOVOSEC SmartFilter (pro)
Microsoft Activation
Ilium Software eWallet
HudsonMobile PhoneDashboard
DeJe PIToday
Conduits Pocket Launcher
Conduits Peacemaker Pro
Anton Tomov Pocket Mechanic
MikeUnwired
09-18-2004, 12:22 PM
I didn't count, but, I have several that show-up on the list that aren't installed any longer -- and that won't delete from the list no matter how many times I delete them.
Why won't these damn things die????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been on a adding spree lately because I just switched over from the Treo 600 to my HP 2215 as my daily PDA. I might just need to get a stand-alone utility for adding / deleting programs to make sure all the errant code is mopped-up when I uninstall the programs that don't make the cut.
omikron.sk
09-18-2004, 12:36 PM
82 the final number. (Using about a third of them, but I like to have everything when it will be (once in a life) required). I had over 100, but did a clean up two weeks ago.
pgh1969pa
09-18-2004, 12:46 PM
My standard 'payload' of applications for work, travel, etc is 41 applications. The PPCs I have for casual purposes are somewhere between 50 and 75 in the list.
pgh1969pa
09-18-2004, 12:49 PM
I might just need to get a stand-alone utility for adding / deleting programs to make sure all the errant code is mopped-up when I uninstall the programs ...
I use MemMaid for this purpose. I still need to do some registry clean up every now and then but it works fairly well.
Matilda444
09-18-2004, 01:15 PM
I have 13. I make a real effort to keep things as clean as possible. If I'm not using it, I don't let it take up space.
61 in list plus 15-20 directly installed on card, plus as many CABs on card not yet installed; would be close to 100 8O.
OSUKid7
09-18-2004, 01:40 PM
74 entries. No joke. I had no clue I had that many things installed. :lol:
Video11
09-18-2004, 02:22 PM
Only 38 in the remove list, another 15 or so on the CF card. I feel so...inadequate.
mrkablooey
09-18-2004, 02:30 PM
I tend to be OCD about clearing it out so if I find I'm not going to use it, out it comes. Then I run MemMaid and SKTools to make sure all traces are gone.
WHEW!
Where are my pills?
:silly:
WyattEarp
09-18-2004, 02:58 PM
"only" 55 in the list 8O . Might need to get rid of some.
superfaron
09-18-2004, 02:59 PM
I've got 54 in my remove list, and about 20 more standalone on a storage card!
Nebbish
09-18-2004, 03:33 PM
_4_
I keep it clean!
NewKreation
09-18-2004, 03:35 PM
I have 118 apps on my Pocket PC. However, only 7 of these are in my Remove Programs list. All 111 of the other programs I have moved to Stand-Alone directories both in memory and on my storage card (saving mucho memory). On the storage card, I have 48 games (\Storage Card\Games) and 41 programs (\Storage Card\Stand-Alone). In main memory, I have 22 stand-alone programs (\Stand-Alone) and the 7 programs that must be installed (I could not get these seven to run by moving the files to another directory).
This set-up makes it way easier to hard reset or upgrade to a new device!
ironguy
09-18-2004, 03:36 PM
76! 8O
Guess it's time to clean house...
And why aren't they alphabetized instead of by load order?
I am sensing the need for a reg tweak...
yawanag
09-18-2004, 03:50 PM
I might just need to get a stand-alone utility for adding / deleting programs to make sure all the errant code is mopped-up when I uninstall the programs ...
I use MemMaid for this purpose. I still need to do some registry clean up every now and then but it works fairly well.
I use Space Reclaimer. Even so, when I go into RegEdit, I find keys still present. I've been able to clean out files better using Total Commander.
I have 40 listed in the list. All do not appear in the list. I consider myself a software junkie and I try to stay on top of cleaning out apps that I no longer use.
T-Will
09-18-2004, 03:57 PM
I've got 59! 8O
disconnected
09-18-2004, 03:57 PM
93 :oops:
Some things aren't really whole apps -- like Spb Time skins and Tube maps, but still... No wonder my iPAQ has gotten really slow.
With luck, I'll have a 4700 soon and can start over.
Underwater Mike
09-18-2004, 04:31 PM
I kept losing my place when counting. :oops:
But Ironguy triggers one of my Andy Rooney moments about PPC: Why aren't these alphabetized (at the very least), and why doesn't somebody write an add/remove applet replacement that has more functionality to it?
And why aren't they alphabetized instead of by load order?
I am sensing the need for a reg tweak...
Shuushin
09-18-2004, 04:40 PM
thirty two
Kati Compton
09-18-2004, 04:55 PM
If you're having trouble couting, count the # that fit without scrolling, and then count the number of "screensful".
I have 44, but I have PI4 and PI5 listed, along with the icon set, Pocket Slides, but also Pocket Slides Languages. Things like that. But, there are also a number of things that I've installed with a .cab file or whatever that aren't in the list.
Sven Johannsen
09-18-2004, 05:05 PM
I'm curious why most of you don't seem to use the ActiveSync Add/Remove apps functionality to get rid of programs. You can un-check a number of them to be removed and let it go. You don't have to do them one at a time like on the PPC. They are alphabetized there BTW. There is the occasional one that leaves a folder somewhere, but you are usually prompted about that. I'm sure some of you purists will say it leaves stuff, but I don't think that leaves any more than doing it from the remove programs applet.
Guess I'm a lightweight with 46 items in the remove programs list. I do have things installed that aren't on the list though...honest.
ikesler
09-18-2004, 05:29 PM
34
probably like 14 too many! :lol:
mrkablooey
09-18-2004, 05:45 PM
I'm curious why most of you don't seem to use the ActiveSync Add/Remove apps functionality to get rid of programs. You can un-check a number of them to be removed and let it go. You don't have to do them one at a time like on the PPC. They are alphabetized there BTW. There is the occasional one that leaves a folder somewhere, but you are usually prompted about that. I'm sure some of you purists will say it leaves stuff, but I don't think that leaves any more than doing it from the remove programs applet.
I use SKTools to uninstall... you can select multiple apps that way too.
cludwig
09-18-2004, 06:13 PM
7.
That said, I benefit dramatically from having an HTC PPCPE (original T-Mobile version, but upgraded to 64M by the folks at PPCTechs). The super-flexible "ROM Kitchens" that the developers / helpful forum members at xda-developer.com have produced allow me to custom-design ROM images that include almost all of the apps I would want to install. Even so, I counted those up and found only 25 more. I guess maybe when it's your phone too you install less apps?
that_kid
09-18-2004, 06:39 PM
Hmm I don't feel bad, only 46, but I make good use of all 46 of them.
Gerard
09-18-2004, 07:09 PM
71 on the list in my Axim X5. 44 on my old iPAQ 3835, which I use mostly as a camera and for my kid to play with. On the Axim there are about another 30 or so standalone EXE things as well, not stripped-down installed stuff, but programs which are actually meant to run from one file. I keep most of those in the Built-in Storage area, except for a couple which act as system plugins as does apReminder+ for instance.
I use Remover for uninstallations, then I'll usually do a registry and file hunt just in case it misses something, which is rare. Been running around 70 installed programs on every device I've used as my main PPC for almost 4 years. Seems to be my 'magic number' somehow.
dean_shan
09-18-2004, 08:11 PM
43. But a lot of those are really small games, like 50-70K.
gandi
09-18-2004, 09:10 PM
9 that are.
Got myself flexWallet today, so this morning it was about 8. :)
ctmagnus
09-18-2004, 10:36 PM
43, all installed to system memory. I trust Sprite Backup.
ricksfiona
09-18-2004, 10:50 PM
9 applications + 4 firmware and driver programs = 13 total. I don't know about you guys with anything over 30..... I'm surprised your PPC still works.
ctmagnus
09-18-2004, 10:57 PM
I don't know about you guys with anything over 30..... I'm surprised your PPC still works.
Experience, and lots of it. My 43 is down from 80+ the last time I saw a thread like this. There's a bit of consolidation in there as well.
mara6
09-18-2004, 11:21 PM
Ahh! I didn't think I had this many, but I have 52 programs! 8O
cribbagewiz
09-19-2004, 12:03 AM
I have 18 programs. More than I would have thought, actually. At least two of them are driver updates or patches, tho.
dlangton
09-19-2004, 01:57 AM
156 on my Jornada. Runs fine.
lapchinj
09-19-2004, 02:26 AM
I guess I should feel luck with only 56 (but alas, this is just after a hard reset :cry: )
Jeff-
SteveHoward999
09-19-2004, 03:53 AM
OMG I feel so inadequate :oops: . I have only 15 apps listed.
But I do use them all at least once a week. Honest :roll:
Steve
omikron.sk
09-19-2004, 08:07 AM
I don't know about you guys with anything over 30..... I'm surprised your PPC still works.
That is the question of handling them. 8) But really - I don't see any reason why they should slow down your PPC. Most of them (the typical apps/games) rest untouched in you momory / storage card and do nothing. The things that should slow down your PPC are permanent-runners like SIPs, Today Plugins, Wisbar etc. So there could be a PPC with 200 apps installed running faster than PPC with 10 apps. It all depends on the type of app. I can tell you that my iPaq with over 80 apps installed runs barely slower than in the just-after-hard-reset state.
mrkablooey
09-19-2004, 12:46 PM
OMG I feel so inadequate :oops: . I have only 15 apps listed.
But I do use them all at least once a week. Honest :roll:
That's the problem I have figuring out some of these posts with 100 apps installed. But oh well, that's cool if you do. Everyone is entitled to their own way of doing things. All that excess on there makes my head explode.
:microwave:
dodette
09-19-2004, 03:05 PM
Heavens. :oops: 84!
Many games, installed to the sd/cf card (Axim xX5), but still I actually do remove things occasionally. I begin to understand why activesync takes 45 seconds when I'm trying to install a new app. :mrgreen:
As a previous poster said, I do prefer to have what I am looking for installed on the rare instance I might want it, rather than remember when I'm out somewhere at night, that if only I had Pocket Universe installed, I could tell the name of that bright star right there.
ghostppc
09-19-2004, 09:18 PM
I have got 20 in my remove list although I have another 60 not on the list (most programs have been 'uninstalled' but still work straight from the memory card).
Same here. Removed a lot over time that still runs from the memory card. But about 65 items are still listed. 8O Time for another hard reset!!! :mrgreen:
Jeff Rutledge
09-19-2004, 10:45 PM
I've got about 60. I'm surprised it's that high as I've been working really hard to optimize my device lately.
BugDude10
09-19-2004, 11:38 PM
I got 83. 8O
Jason Dunn
09-20-2004, 12:17 AM
This might shock some people, but I only have 13 installed. :-)
OSUKid7
09-20-2004, 12:22 AM
This might shock some people, but I only have 13 installed. :-)Hmm...at first that was a shock, but you do seem like someone who knows what kind of technology you want - both hardware- and software-wise.
Steven Cedrone
09-20-2004, 12:23 AM
This might shock some people, but I only have 13 installed. :-)
Uh-huh... But how many Pocket PC's do you have 13 apps installed on! :wink:
Steve
Sacre_Bleu
09-20-2004, 12:24 PM
Hmmmmm... Only 22 apps installed.
What am i missing... Please let me know ! :lol:
Now all i need to do is move to USA in order to get cheap memory for my H2210, so that i can install more apps without deleting my family guy episodes :wink:
juttonn
09-21-2004, 05:26 AM
I've got 71 apps
Mark R Penn
09-24-2004, 02:36 PM
57 here, though to be fair 12 of those are maps for VisualIT Tube. I can honestly say there's not one there that I would want to uninstal - the rubish doesn't hang arround for very long at all.
collegea
09-24-2004, 05:13 PM
I just have 9 enties in my remove list basically because I find that most of the add on applications are garbage and way overpriced.
Don't get me wrong here: I love my HP IPAQ 4155. The built in bluetooth and wifi is great. And my 256 MB Panasonic SD card is filled up completely with music.
gspeece
09-24-2004, 10:25 PM
:D Counted them on my remove program 85..
Not putting you on or trying to play can you top this BUT I love trying all kind of stuff..
Four different Bible programs alone, (e-Sword, Quickverse, Olive Tree and plenty of stuff from Laridian).
Have a HP5555 with 512 SD and a sleve with 256 which I use for games..
Thanks
gspeece
Hx4700
09-24-2004, 11:11 PM
76! 8O
Guess it's time to clean house...
And why aren't they alphabetized instead of by load order?
I am sensing the need for a reg tweak...
Ironman - I found out by accident that after a full backup with Sprite and then hard reset and reload backup - the list is in alpha order.
Ron...
ctmagnus
09-24-2004, 11:23 PM
What device do you use? Mine's in reverse alphabetical order.
Hx4700
09-24-2004, 11:33 PM
I have Dell Axim X5. I've seen it come back both ways. I don't know what I do different to get forward or reverse order.
Ron...
ctmagnus
09-25-2004, 12:56 AM
I use an iPaq 5550, but then I have yet to restore from a backup that had been created after an earlier restore. That may be it.
Ekkie Tepsupornchai
09-25-2004, 08:28 PM
Only 28 for me... like many others though, I probably have dozens of other programs on my SD card that run directly without requiring additional installs.
Funny thing is that I seem to remember a similar thread (or was it a contest?) where we had to guess how many apps Ed H had on his PPC. His final number was lower than what most people would expect. I remember at the time, many of us compared notes, most people had less than 50 apps installed. Now that number has seemingly ballooned!!
I guess that says something about the growing attention being paid by developers to PPC apps!! There's just so much to choose from now!
Blargman2001
09-26-2004, 01:28 PM
I have 76. There were even more a few months ago but I had to make room for more MP3's.
I have 62 programs installed. A couple of them are demos though. A few are not usable programs if you know what I mean - items such as "microsoft activation", "icon packs" and "agfa monotype fonts"
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