How To: Stream in Da Noize, Stream in Da Funk

[Pat Logsdon]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.jakeludington.com/archives/000217.html' target='_blank'>http://www.jakeludington.com/archives/000217.html</a><br /><br /></div><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/logsdon_20040730_stream.gif" /> <br /><br /><i>"An anonymous reader asks, "Is there a way I can broadcast music on my computer to my Pocket PC? I frequently lounge on my patio and would love a way to listen to music without needing to download the songs I want before I get outside." Based on the question, I'm assuming this particular reader has a wireless home network. Without wireless, there isn't a practical way to broadcast anything to a remote location on the premises of your homestead. Microsoft provides a reasonably simple solution for broadcasting audio and video across a home network using the free Windows Media Encoder. The initial setup requires a few steps, but you should be listening to music on the patio in a matter of minutes."</i><br /><br />Jake Ludington and his Digital Lifestyle provide concise instructions on how to stream tunes from your PC to your Pocket PC. I've done this myself and it's a piece of cake. Has anyone else done this? Are you using some other software or method to stream in your noize and funk?

[gregmills]

It didn't work for me.

WMP on my Pocket PC pulls in the name of the stream and then shuts down. I used WinAmp instead of WMP on the PC but that shouldn't make a difference since the encoder is just capturing whatever it going through the sound card.

Did anyone else get this to work?

This free player (http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=701) lets you use shoutcast playlists and get streaming radio. Woulnd't it be a more convenient alternative?

[butch]

I also use WME sometime with RemoteAmp to control the playlist, but most of the time I just use RemoteAmp and the digital connection between my PC and my home theater system. :D

[gregmills]

OK I got it to work.

I set it up again but I let encoder find a free port instead of running it on the default (8080). I also specified my sound card instead of leaving the default setting.

The stream on the PPC is 10 seconds or so behind the audio on the computer. I guess that's just the lag from encoder doing it's thing. Now I need a PPC app to let me control WinAmp or WMP over the wireless network.

[jeffmd]

what in the hell?

Uhmm... download one of the many file explorers like rescos kick butt one, and simply load your mp3's into one of the many pocket pc players (some are more network friendly then others as well). no need to go about re encoding your files to wma, and you can control exactly what songs you play on your pocket pc.

I know the user ask for a broadcast solution, but the problem being solved does not require it.

[Ipaq2210]

Oh goodness me - I second that ....

Just map a network drive with any of the free stuff out there. Forget this re-encoding lark 8O

[ppcsurfr]

I've been doing this for quite some time...

It works...

But some steps differ...

1. I go for Custon Session instead of Broadcast
2. Deselect Video on the Session Properties
3. In the Audio Configure page I choose Wave Out Mix instead... which I guess is simlar to the Stereo Mix...

All the rest seems to be the same.

Other than this, if you have a buuilt-in tv-Tuner card, or a video cam attached to your PC, you can also stream video from a TV station, cable-TV, or your own camera...

Now why would you want to do such a thing? Well, if don't want to miss your favorite show, and you find yourself taking a bit too long on the throne... the Pocket PC becomes a nifty solution...

Carlo

[szamot]

Oh goodness me - I second that ....

Just map a network drive with any of the free stuff out there. Forget this re-encoding lark 8O

I use Pocket Player works like charm, and I do agree with you why bother encoding. There are easier ways of doing this.

[popabawa]

I think this is great, it lets me do some stuff that previously wasn't possible like listen to ANY (real player or Windows media) internet radio on my iPAQ around the house.

Agreed, it's not the easiest way to stream mp3's but it's waaay more versatile than that.

[Philip Colmer]

I wrote this last year:

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,16660

It covers the same process but fills in some gaps around issues of encoder compatibility that may be causing problems for people at the moment.

--Philip

[that_kid]

I use a program calledd Iremote. It allows yor ppc to control winamp and it can stream the sound back to your ppc. While using resco to play files is great, it's much easier to find sings in m y music collection by using Iremote. Plus I can re-encode the music to a lower bit rate on the fly. Why is this handy, well I can then stream music to my ppc across sprint's 1xRtt network. Sure i have a 40 gig ipod but my ipod can't hold half of my music collection. This way I have acce
s to my whole collection and my parents can also listen to the streams at work.

[Leon]

Has anyone else done this?

Old news. :wink:
I wrote this article two years ago:
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3263

[pagemore]

My PPC doesn't support Wireless... :cry: Is there any way that I can stream to my website and then log in with my dial in connection? Can someone tell me how to do it or even if this is possible?

[Handy]

My PPC doesn't support Wireless... :cry: Is there any way that I can stream to my website and then log in with my dial in connection? Can someone tell me how to do it or even if this is possible?

You could do that. Dialup would be slower and I think if you were pulling the files off a website, you'd have to download the complete file before you could play it. That and the need to connect to a telephone line would make that an unsatisfactory situation.

I would seriously consider getting a Wi-Fi setup. If your PDA supports CF cards, you could probably find a wireless router for $25 to $35 and a CF card for about $30 on Ebay. If you have to have an SD card, it would be more expensive.

I agree with the posts about not needing Windows Media Encoder. It's a snap to stream MP3's, WMA's or Ogg files directly from your PC to your PDA with no encoding. If you use GSPlayer, you can even play streaming MP3's from Shoutcast, etc.

The only reason I would use Encoder would be to play Real Audio files and that wouldn't be very convenient, because you'd have to control the steam from the PC.

[Leon]

(...) because you'd have to control the steam from the PC.
Well, I don't know about the steam but if you mean stream :wink: then you could Terminal Services client for that.

[Nat]

I just came up with a very interesting solution regarding this.

I bought a Linksys Network Storage Link for 70$US. This will allow me to connect a USB2.0 harddisk to it and my Hard disk will become a share on my network, without the need to have a computer opened. So I copied all my library to that drive.

On my PPC I use Resco Explorer to acess the drive. There is a small problem using this method though, you can only play one song at a time, you cannot select multiple file and queue them. My programming skills were of some help here. Windows Media on the pocket pc supports playlists, but when you create a new playlist you can only acess local storage. If you edit the playlist yourself (.asx file) and point to your network share it will work flawlessly. Now editing manually 250+ asx files (1 per album) is a pretty terrible task so I programmed a small program that will scan my media folder and create those files for me ! You can also create an ASX file that links to other ASX files so the possibilites are quite endless.

So where ever I am in the house, I can acess all those files from my PPC with no computers opened !

[pagemore]

[quote=pagemore]My PPC doesn't support Wireless... :cry: Is there any way that I can stream to my website and then log in with my dial in connection? Can someone tell me how to do it or even if this is possible?

You could do that. Dialup would be slower and I think if you were pulling the files off a website, you'd have to download the complete file before you could play it. That and the need to connect to a telephone line would make that an unsatisfactory situation.

I would seriously consider getting a Wi-Fi setup. If your PDA supports CF cards, you could probably find a wireless router for $25 to $35 and a CF card for about $30 on Ebay. If you have to have an SD card, it would be more expensive.

8O Certainly their must be a way to stream audio from my website to my pocket pc, right? How can I do this? What kind of software would I need for that? My next question is going to be how do I stream from my pc to my website...

[ctmagnus]

You could do that. Dialup would be slower and I think if you were pulling the files off a website, you'd have to download the complete file before you could play it. That and the need to connect to a telephone line would make that an unsatisfactory situation.

If you could edit the .asx files to point to the http:// location of the files, it may try to stream rather than pulling the whole file down every time the song changes.

[Nat]

You could do that. Dialup would be slower and I think if you were pulling the files off a website, you'd have to download the complete file before you could play it. That and the need to connect to a telephone line would make that an unsatisfactory situation.

If you could edit the .asx files to point to the http:// location of the files, it may try to stream rather than pulling the whole file down every time the song changes.

I tried this and it doesn't work, on a desktop pc windows media will load the files fine but the ppc doesn't like it.

[MacBriar]

I have amy Pocketloox setup so that I can access all my music through WMP, to do this I used Resco File Explorer to show Network as "Network" folder under "My Device" to do this go to File and Options then the "Add-ins" Tab.

Now any shares that you create in Resco will be available for WMP to browse.

I had tried the encoding route however I found the share browsing route more simple and resource effective.

Ewan

[mkrigsman]

I use iPlay from 40th floor software.

http://iplay.40th.com/

It runs a little server on a PC, and the client runs on the PPC. It works really well and the MP3 decoder is excellent, so really good sound quality.