XDA III Photos

[Jason Dunn]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://pocketpcdubai.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=553609464&f=695604964&m=313109823' target='_blank'>http://pocketpcdubai.infopop.cc/eve...964&m=313109823</a><br /><br /></div>The XDA III looks like a very impressive device - I love the slide-out keyboard. Great concept! Check out the pictures...<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/xda3.jpg" />

[Ryan Joseph]

Now THIS is the device I've been waiting for!! :clap:

And it doesn't look much thicker than the XDA II! :D

I absolutely can't wait for this device! What's the release date? I remember seeing September, but is that final? 8)

This thing's got 8 hardware buttons if you count the camera and microphone buttons! 8O

And my favorite Smiley applies to this post: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[entropy1980]

What wireless besides GSM is included? WiFi? Bluetooth? both?

[Ryan Joseph]

What wireless besides GSM is included? WiFi? Bluetooth? both?

Both! And that's a beautiful thing! Plus it's got the keyboard, 128MB RAM, Second Edition, no antenna, etc., etc., etc.!
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[Jeff Rutledge]

This is how to do a keyboard. I saw the photo of the 6300 with keyboard (side view) here (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=30604&highlight=)and it really turned me off the device.

[carphead]

8O

So I had may heart set on a MPX now I just don't know any more :(

MPX - Slow - But looks to die for.
6xxx - Slow - But I can use my IPAQ stuff with it
XDA III - KEYBOARD

What to choose :!:

[sylvangale]

And an Mpx compared to an XDA. Decisions... decisions...

http://www.mysmartphone.no/bilder/mpx/mpx6.jpg

[Ryan Joseph]

MPX - Slow - But looks to die for.
6xxx - Slow - But I can use my IPAQ stuff with it
XDA III - KEYBOARD

MPX - Slow, small screen, no way to hide keyboard
6300 - Slow, no Second Edition, ugly antenna
XDA III - Fast, Sliding ILLUMINATED Keyboard, 128MB, etc.!

XDA III all the way! (at least for me. I'd never presume to push my perspectives on anyone else... :devilboy: )

[ale_ers]

I had heard that it might not have Bluetooth? Although I think this was just an early rumor.

Does anyone know the resolution on the camera?

[TheZodiac]

MDAIII (and IV for that matter) is a waste of engineering. With MS2003SE on there, you would think they could take advantage of the landscape features, and spin that sucker sideways and have a PROPER usable slideing KB for it...

Sad. Maybe next year!......LMAO.

[rbrome]

Am I the only one who doesn't like the look of this thing? :( The XDA and XDA II were sexy - this just looks kind of... cheap, in some way. The speaker, especially, but really the whole design just looks like brand-X cheap knockoff design. Usually HTC does better than that (although the original SPV was kind of like this, too).

[dma1965]

I am frankly fed up with the whole integrated phone concept right now. Not that the devices are not great, but the ridiculous hoops you have to jump through to get one is something akin to having wisdom teeth removed. I want to just buy one, and pop in my SIM card. No, this is not so easy. You have to sign a contract with a carrier, then hope and pray he is willing to unlock it if you go overseas or want to switch carriers later. It has become a complete headache. Imagine having to sign a contract with a gas station to buy a car, or a utility company to buy a house, or a grocery store to buy a refrigerator. This just plain sucks!

[Gavin Henriques]

I WANT!!!! I hope I-Mate releases this!! My I-Mate has been rock solid! With the keyboard and WiFi, it will be complete! :D :D :D

[Ryan Joseph]

You have to sign a contract with a carrier...

The i-mate (rebranded XDA II) ships unlocked. You just buy it and stick in your SIM card as you said.

The XDA III may be tied to a carrier in the begining (hopefully T-Mobile), but, as with the previous devices, there'll probably be an unlocked version sooner or later.

And if the initial carrier isn't T-Mobile, I'll be standing right next to you shouting for an unlocked version! :twisted:

[Ryan Joseph]

I WANT!!!! I hope I-Mate releases this!! My I-Mate has been rock solid! With the keyboard and WiFi, it will be complete! :D :D :D

Amen, brother!

Okay, I'll stop now. (I'm all over this device, can you tell?)

[felixdd]

That device looks so sexy and sleek. Heck it looks more like a sliding screen that reveals a keyboard than the other way around.

If Tolkein were alive, he'd write something like, "there is no emoticon on this green earth that can express the joy that overflows from the vessel that is my heart, upon the sight of such a fair and magnificent device."


(I was re-reading LOTR...so sue me :roll: )

[Birdman]

Between this and the MPX, I am not sure.
Between this and the HP63xx, no contest, MDA III all the way. The more I rely on my original XDA as an integrated device, the more I see that an integrated keyboard is essential (to me). Grafitti is o.k., but can at times, be frustrating as hell. The clip on keyboard for the HP unit is just too big to be useful (to me).

[szamot]

This is how to do a keyboard. I saw the photo of the 6300 with keyboard (side view) here (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=30604&highlight=)and it really turned me off the device.

That is truly sad, sad, sad - it looks like a brick even more so than Dell X5 ever did.

[surur]

MPX - Slow - But looks to die for.
6xxx - Slow - But I can use my IPAQ stuff with it
XDA III - KEYBOARD

Mpx
Slow
limited memory
poor battery life
looks to die for
good keyboard
no case needed.
6xxx
slow
ok memory
very good battery life
ugly as sin
horrible keyboard (would anyone even want to be seen using this in public?)
needs a case.
XDA 3
Normal speed
very good memory
probably reasonable battery life
reasonably looks (too thick)
poor keyboard (dont think it will actually increase speed much beyond the on-screen keyboard)
will need a case (but what case will work with a sliding phone?)
xda iv (rumours)
very fast (624Mhz)
good memory
VGA screen
3G
(so probably poor battery life, but what can one do :) )
who knows what it will look like.

I am waiting for something revolutionary before I upgrade from the xda 2. This was going to be the Mpx, but the leaked devices are very poor performers, and unless this changes Im not going to downgrade to it just because it looks good. Im waiting for the rumoured xda 4, with 3 key new technologies (624 MHz processor, VGA, 3G) before I splurge again.

Surur

[Ryan Joseph]

poor keyboard

Do you really think so? I love the design of this keyboard. It slides into the device and yet looks big enough to use with thumbs. Plus, the slide design prevents too much weight from going to the top, keping the device from becoming top heavy while typing.

xda iv (rumours)......Im waiting for the rumoured xda 4, with 3 key new technologies (624 MHz processor, VGA, 3G) before I splurge again.

Granted, the XDA IV sounds like an absolutely amazing device. But the key word here is rumored. It's still just out there somewhere. It'll be a while in coming.

The XDA III should be here in a month. Plus, I only keep my devices for 6-8 months anyway, so if I get the XDA III now, I'll be ready for a new one by the time the IV is released. 8)

But I totally agree that the IV will be revolutionary! :mrgreen:

[Birdman]

I seem to recall seeing a site with more detailed specs on the XDAIII but I can't find it now. Can anyone link to it?
An unlocked version of this may just be in the cards for me.

[beq]

Wow I agree now the iPAQ 6300 looks to be trailing... Regarding the XDA III's slide-out design, it looks like the heavier/thicker portion is the bottom part, just thought that was interesting (shouldn't be top-heavy then)...

But man all you guys apparently know the specs of all these PPC PE's by heart. For the uninitiated or forgetful, is there a chart comparison of the specs like FirstLoox has done for the VGA PPC's? I can't recall all the individual preview links I've seen in the past now.

And how do you know the XDA III has Second Edition? Also I haven't heard of the XDA IV, any idea when (like in next year, etc)? VGA + 3G (EDGE?) + MHz sounds awesome.

BTW the MPx's screen looks a lot smaller, more akin to a Smartphone...

[Ryan Joseph]

But man all you guys apparently know the specs of all these PPC PE's by heart. For the uninitiated or forgetful, is there a chart comparison of the specs...?

I haven't seen one myself, but I'd certainly be glad to put one together for everyone. I'm at work now, but I'll do it when I get home later tonight or early tomorrow morning. Unless someone beats me to it... :D

And how do you know the XDA III has Second Edition?

Follow the link Jason gave in the original post and there are several more pictures of the device. One of them is a close up of the screen. Slightly blurry, but it shows Second Edition. :mrgreen:

Also I haven't heard of the XDA IV

It's very much a rumor right now. There aren't even any pictures. It's all speculation. I very much doubt it'll be released before late 2005, but that's purely speculation on my part. :wink:

BTW the MPx's screen looks a lot smaller, more akin to a Smartphone...

That, among other reasons, is exactly why I don't like the MPx.

[Rainman1976]

Ummmmm DROOOOOOOOOOL!!! 8O That's all I have to say!!

[ale_ers]

I haven't seen one myself, but I'd certainly be glad to put one together for everyone. I'm at work now, but I'll do it when I get home later tonight or early tomorrow morning. Unless someone beats me to it... :D
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My next device will have a phone...I'm just trying to figure out which one that will be. I would love to see a spread sheet or a list of Pros and Cons (although pros to someone might be a con to others, for example many don't want a camera...but me - I want a 1.3 mp one).



That, among other reasons, is exactly why I don't like the MPx
As much as I like the design of the MPx I agree. It is all what you use a PPC for: I use it a lot for navigation and reading, therefore I need a good sized screen.

[PPCRules]

With MS2003SE on there, you would think they could take advantage of the landscape features, and spin that sucker sideways and have a PROPER usable slideing KB for it...

Exactly. I have felt that that would be the perfect form factor, and until now the OS limitation (no native landscape) made it impractical. But now - why not do it?

[surur]

Also I haven't heard of the XDA IV

It's very much a rumour right now. There aren't even any pictures. It's all speculation. I very much doubt it'll be released before late 2005, but that's purely speculation on my part. :wink:


Ive heard early 2005 (but we know how these things slip) Apparently this is because the XDA IV is apparently made by HTC, and therefore the real successor to the XDA 2. The XDA 3 is made by a completely different company, Daxian (http://www.daxiantelecom.com/english/product/product.asp?id=23), and is already widely deployed in the CDMA form in china and Korea.

So HTC has probably been working on the XDA 4 since June 2003 (http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/June2003/5503.htm), and it should pop up soon.

Surur

[possmann]

Very cool looking device - I betcha it's gonna cost a small fortune... T-Mo is gonna list the new 6300 series HP for under $500 and seeing that they have an "exclusive" contract with HP for that PocketPC Phone device, I don't think that T-Mo will be carrying this cool looking device - which is really gonna be sad.

I'd much rather have this device than the 6300 HP device - I like the sliding keyboard more than one that I have to snap on...

Anyone have any news on price and carrier? Anyone wanna guess if this will even see the light of the US?

[Jason Dunn]

MDAIII (and IV for that matter) is a waste of engineering. With MS2003SE on there, you would think they could take advantage of the landscape features...

Honestly, the landscape features aren't all that great - there's a lot less usable space than you'd think. :?

[thechrisjung]

I understand that that the hp6300 is trailing the XDA III in terms of specifications. The 6300 is probably more comparable to the XDA II. But isnt this a mute point for some people. Seems to be that the XDA II is a very scarce device in the US and goes for prices round 800-1000 dollars. While the 6300 will be readily available in the US through the partnership of HP and tmobile. Plus from rumors and pictures of the 6300 its taken several months to read the august release. Arnt we just at the rumors and pictures stage of the XDA III?

[Johan]

I hear MDAIII was not a HTC design, is tis right? Doesn't look very nice, must be a lot thicker than the XDAII. I would have been happy with an XDAII formfactor but with built in wifi and 1.3 Mpix camera.

I wonder if Motorola will scramble to bring out the MPx otherwise a lot of people will get the iPAQ 6xxx or MDAIII if you like bricks... :lol:

[Arne Hess]

The device in this thread (wouldn't call it xda III yet because only T-Mobile (Europe) announced it as MDA III so far) is an HTC device called "Blue Angel" as you can read here:

http://www.ppcw.net/?itemid=1955

There you will also find the "confirmed" specs.

[Mark Johnson]

you would think they could take advantage of the landscape features...

Honestly, the landscape features aren't all that great - there's a lot less usable space than you'd think. :?

I'd have to agree that landscape display is probably not going to make a huge world of difference in the "amout of" or "effectiveness of" the information shown under most circumstances.

At the same time, TheZodiac's got a good point that by reorienting to a "wide keyboard" instead of a "tall keyboard" it would be a lot more "natural" (or maybe just familiar) for typing...


If the XDA IV unit (VGA) does get built I'd buy one in a heartbeat. Is HTC the same group that designed the iPaq 1900/4100's? The XDA III unit looks so nice next to the other releases this summer. Give it VGA and we've got a deal!

[beq]

I haven't seen one myself, but I'd certainly be glad to put one together for everyone. I'm at work now, but I'll do it when I get home later tonight or early tomorrow morning. Unless someone beats me to it... :D
Ryan thanks a lot for all the answers, much appreciated sir :D And yes, the roundup would really be awesome if you have the time!


And thanks Arne for the further MDA III specs. 400MHz.. not bad at all IMHO :) Do we know if this will be quad-band GSM, or only tri-band (which means separate versions for USA and Europe/Asia)? Also asking for the possibility of using with ATTWS or Cingular here in the US with the 850MHz/1900MHz GSM...

[Kai920]

Well, just to throw another rumor into the mix, I read over at xda-developers.com:

MDA4 is real, because announced MDA3 is not made by HTC (as MDA1 and MDA2). T-Mobile ordered this piece of hardware somewhere in China and labelled it as MDA3, but it has nothing in common with maker of MDA1 and MDA2. T-Mobile did it just because he needed a response to Motorola MPx (WindowsMobile Communicator with the keyboard and WiFi). It't just a temporary solution - the real successor of MDA2 will be the MDA4 made by HTC again.

Don't know how much truth there is in that...

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One thing not to forget, is that this unit will supposedly have the MS Bluetooth stack and, therefore, not support voice control/ audio from BT headsets.

[shanipaqman]

Does this mean that Sprint might be closer to carrying this type unit branded PPC6600? I heard that it was going to be a Daxian CU928 rebranded coming to Sprint since it is CDMA....I would love to get a hold of a decent Sprint PPCPE...
Any ideas?
thanks

[Stephen Beesley]

Features sound great, but boy is that one ugly device.....

IMHO, of course :D

I would love to see a sliding keyboard something like the one used on the Sharp Zaurus line of Linux PDAs

http://www.linux-user.de/ausgabe/2002/02/074-zaurus/komplett-zwei-vergleich_s.jpg

[Ryan Joseph]

I haven't seen one myself, but I'd certainly be glad to put one together for everyone. I'm at work now, but I'll do it when I get home later tonight or early tomorrow morning. Unless someone beats me to it... :D

Well, clearly I didn't finish the project last night. I got it started, but it's not done yet.

Since it's still a work in progress, I was curious what you guys wanted me to compare, exactly. Just specs? Or do you want my opinion, too? (as if I haven't already made my opinion clear in this thread. :wink: )

[ipaq4ever]

I think it is thick in this pic:
http://www.slashphone.com/news/uploads/467/CU628_3.jpg

but not this one:
http://www.slashphone.com/news/uploads/467/CU628_4.jpg
http://www.slashphone.com/news/uploads/467/CU628_compar_xda2_2.jpg

checkout more pix here http://www.slashphone.com/71/467.html

[surur]

It looks thick, and it looks heavy, and I still wonder how it will be cased.

Surur

[ctmagnus]

I still wonder how it will be cased.

Vaja! :D

[Ryan Joseph]

It looks thick, and it looks heavy, and I still wonder how it will be cased.

From the pictures, it doesn't look any thicker than the XDA II. I know pictures can be decieving, but I'm happy with the thickness myself.

The case is a concern. That's an incredibly cool and sexy keyboard design, but it'll make a case dificult.

Even if you had to remove it from the case to use the keyboard, I'd still want one.

I should change my signature to say, "waiting desperately for the XDA III!" :mrgreen:

[ipaq4ever]

MDA II: 130 x 70 x 19 mm

MDA III: 125 x 72 x 19 mm

Guys is it only 2 mm wider than MDA II! :roll: But it is 5 mm shorter, and same thickness :)

checkout direct comparison here http://www.wigalds-web.de/db/result.php?id=15&id2=69

[surur]

Hersteller T-Mobile/T-Com T-Mobile
Model .......MDA II ............................MDA III
CPU ..........Intel XScale 400 Mhz .......Intel XScale 400 Mhz
OS ...........Windows Mobile 2003 ........Windows Mobile 2003 SE
RAM/ROM.. 128 MB/64 MB .................128 MB/64 MB
SD/CF .......Ja/Nein ...........................Ja/Nein
BT/WLAN ...Ja/Nein ...........................Ja/Ja
Battery......1200 mAh .......................1490 mAh
Removable..Ja ..................................Ja
Screen size.3.5"............................... 3.5"
Type..........transflektiv ......................transflektiv
VGA/Landscape Nein/Nein .................Nein/Ja
Keyboard.. Nein ...............................Ja
GPRS/UMTS. Ja/Nein ........................Ja/Nein
GPS........... Nein ..............................Nein
Camera Ja .......................................Ja
Cradle/USB-Host Ja/Nein ...................Ja/Nein
size.....130 x 70 x 19 mm ..................125 x 72 x 19 mm
weight..185 Gr ..................................210 Gr
Status.. avilable.................................September 2004
Price... 719,95 € ca. ..........................699 €

Interesting. Better, cheaper, available soon. An unusual move in pocketpc's these days. Now if only the processor was also faster and the camera 1.3 Megapixel.

Surur

[ipaq4ever]

Interesting. Better, cheaper, available soon. An unusual move in pocketpc's these days. Now if only the processor was also faster and the camera 1.3 Megapixel.
Surur

I agree with you, but I don't care if the camera is more powerful VGA is ok for me and for my MMS bill ;)

[Newton Ford]

Oh yes - bring it on.... This XDA user can't get enough - just need the addition of GPS on chip to complete the set (perhaps XDAV?) Texas Instraments are developing a Quad chip giving Blue802, GPRS & GPS.... now that realy appeals. It would be one less gadget hanging off me when surveying - currently using bluetooth GPS unit to this end.... Love the keyboard, it should speed up data entry, MSM instant messenger etc.

[ipaq4ever]

Love the keyboard, it should speed up data entry, MSM instant messenger etc.

However I am not sure if they will make Customized keyboards for other regions such as Europe and the Middle East.

Maybe this is their plan:
XDA III – UK, East Asia
MDA III – Germany, USA
Qtek 9090 – France, Sweeden, other parts of Europe
CU9x – China
iMate 2 (or 3) – Arab countries + Europe

Different name variations but the same device for different regions :roll:

[shanipaqman]

Hey, you forgot to mention the device name for usa? They are bringing it here right?
thanks

[ipaq4ever]

Hey, you forgot to mention the device name for usa? They are bringing it here right?
thanks
I mentioned MDA III

[shanipaqman]

Any chance this is going to be a Sprint Device?

[jemichael]

http://www.mysmartphone.no/bilder/mpx/mpx6.jpg

What program is that battery meter on the XDA Today Screen?

[erap]

hi im newb at this so im alil bit slow, i just wanna know where i can buy a xda O2 IIi for a bargain price? thank you because i really want the gadget. thank u guys