Holman Christian Standard Bible For Laridian's Pocket Bible

[Ed Hansberry]

<a href="http://www.laridiansales.com/order/productpages/LBKHCSB01.asp?order_platform=ce&amp;ring=apwzwtzws">http://www.laridiansales.com/order/productpages/LBKHCSB01.asp?order_platform=ce&amp;ring=apwzwtzws</a><br /><br />Laridian is really on the ball. This translation just made it to stores in April of 2004 and Laridian already has it ready for their popular Pocket Bible application. <br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/2004/20040526-hcsb.gif" /><br /><br />It is approximately 2.7MB in size and is $14.99. It can reside on your storage card or in a ROM file store.<!><br /><br />Why, you might ask, would we need yet another translation? Well, there is some really good information at <a href="http://www.lifeway.com/lwc/article_main_page/0,1703,A%253D152439%2526M%253D150036,00.html">Lifeway Christian's site</a>, and I can say that, for now, I have switched to using this translation as my primary translation. I've only had it for a week, so that may change in the coming weeks or months, but for now, my NIV translation will be getting a rest. Having used the NIV for over 20 years, it is no small thing to just switch. You can read the online version at the <a href="http://hcsb.broadmanholman.com/crossmain.asp">Broadman and Holman</a> site, complete with the footnotes, if you want to get a feel for how the translation reads.

[Paul Martin]

From a previous thread on this subject (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=246860#246860), Bob offered a great link on info behind the HCSB.
Read this article (http://www.bible-researcher.com/csb.html).

With all of these newer translations emerging recently, it helped to clarify for me the differences, purposes, etc. of the HCSB, the ESV and some of the other recent releases.

[baker]

Ed,
NASB, ESV or HCSB....I like these three the best. ESV to me is a smoothed out reading of the NASB. HCSB is a smoothed out NASB at a slightly easier level than the ESV.

[Paul Martin]

baker,

Which one do you prefer? I've been using the updated NASB for a while and like it, though I've been trying to work through the ESV this year. To keep this somewhat on topic, I have the NASB with Strongs & Greek/Hebrew dictionaries that Laridian offers...good stuff!

[drrichard]

:D You guys are something! Thanks for bringing Laridian to the fore. Their programs are terrific and so useful to me, a pastor. I can study on the run! I probably have a dozen of their programs on my 4150 and they work without a hitch.

[pivaska]

I have this bible study on my E800 (still waiting for more comments on 2003se) but just for a desktop freebee I just found www.e-sword.net. They have an incredible bible study software piece that amazed me. I am going to be asking them for a handheld version.

[baker]

baker,

Which one do you prefer? I've been using the updated NASB for a while and like it, though I've been trying to work through the ESV this year. To keep this somewhat on topic, I have the NASB with Strongs & Greek/Hebrew dictionaries that Laridian offers...good stuff!

I've used the NASB since college so it's near and dear to me too. If I'm studying, it's the NASB. If I'm reading, right now it's the ESV. The HCSB would be my choice for memorization and/or reading. I like all three, but have only been reading the HCSB (NT) since January. Laridian has all three and about a month or two before they "published" their HCSB I emailed them asking if it were coming. They did respond promptly, but their policy is to not let the cat out of the bag. Laridian's great and they even helped me out with an old W95 PC Bible program I use on XP.

[drrichard]

I tried and tried to get E-Sword on my handheld (they do have such) but without success :(

[Ed Hansberry]

FWIW, if I am studying, it is Young's Literal Translation. I'd find it hard to believe you could get closer the original Greek and Hebrew than Robert Young did. http://www.bible-researcher.com/young.html is a facinating read. His understanding of how the Hebrew language was used makes a lot of the tense translations in most other versions totally wrong, which can dramatically change their meaning.

Best of all, it is a free version at Laridian for Pocket Bible.

[Paul Martin]

Ed - Thanks for the tip. I know I've downloaded YLT...just need to start taking a look more often!

drrichard - I too was unsuccessful in getting e-sword to run on my Pocket PC. I tried to free up plenty of RAM...just kept getting errors. Since they offer a free ESV, I wanted to use it, but finally gave up.

baker - I've not tried the HCSB. I'll have to check it out online and consider the purchase from Laridian. I've been using them since I purchased their bible program for my CE 2 device.

[JBPLCMS]

I'm new here, but had to add my two cents on this post. I've used Laridian since 2000 on my Casio e100. Four years, six PDA's and about $600 in Laridian books and it's still the primary reason I own a PDA. I still use the paper Franklin Planner to keep myself organized, but I'll always have a Pocket PC as long as Laridian keeps making software. I love going into bible study and everyone has 4 or 5 books and I have at least 10 times as much information in the palm of my hand. I can honestly say that Laridian has change my life profoundly!

[baker]

FWIW, if I am studying, it is Young's Literal Translation. I'd find it hard to believe you could get closer the original Greek and Hebrew than Robert Young did. http://www.bible-researcher.com/young.html is a facinating read. His understanding of how the Hebrew language was used makes a lot of the tense translations in most other versions totally wrong, which can dramatically change their meaning.

Best of all, it is a free version at Laridian for Pocket Bible.

I share your understanding to study with a literal translation.

[sylvangale]

Don't all E-sword bible/study packs work in Pocket E-sword too?

I have this bible study on my E800 (still waiting for more comments on 2003se) but just for a desktop freebee I just found www.e-sword.net. They have an incredible bible study software piece that amazed me. I am going to be asking them for a handheld version.

[Lex]

Thanks for the recommendation you Young's, Ed. For all: It's also free at Olivetree.com.

I own Laridian too but like OliveTree's option to set the background color to light yellow. Easy on the eyes.

[Jonathon Watkins]

I'm new here, but had to add my two cents on this post. I've used Laridian since 2000 on my Casio e100. Four years, six PDA's and about $600 in Laridian books and it's still the primary reason I own a PDA. I still use the paper Franklin Planner to keep myself organized, but I'll always have a Pocket PC as long as Laridian keeps making software. I love going into bible study and everyone has 4 or 5 books and I have at least 10 times as much information in the palm of my hand. I can honestly say that Laridian has change my life profoundly!

Welcome JBPLCMS and good to have you on board. :way to go:

I enjoy using Laridian, but it's long overdue for a makeover & upgrade. :? Hopefully they will take the opportunity to do that when they upgrade to optimally support VGA (which I am assuming they will do).

[JBPLCMS]

I'm new here, but had to add my two cents on this post. I've used Laridian since 2000 on my Casio e100. Four years, six PDA's and about $600 in Laridian books and it's still the primary reason I own a PDA. I still use the paper Franklin Planner to keep myself organized, but I'll always have a Pocket PC as long as Laridian keeps making software. I love going into bible study and everyone has 4 or 5 books and I have at least 10 times as much information in the palm of my hand. I can honestly say that Laridian has change my life profoundly!

Welcome JBPLCMS and good to have you on board. :way to go:

I enjoy using Laridian, but it's long overdue for a makeover & upgrade. :? Hopefully they will take the opportunity to do that when they upgrade to optimally support VGA (which I am assuming they will do).

I agree, using WM2003 in VGA with the latest PB update worked pretty well and as of yesterday, I'm using 2003SE which results in blury text. I'd like to see Laridian develop a few add-on apps. One is I imported a daily reading schedule into Outlook and I'd love to be able to click a hyperlink in the appointment and open my reading for the day. If not that, at least a customizable daily reader program. I have saved my daily reading schedule as an HTML document and was able to pull it up from within PB, but it's a little cumbersome. I'd also like to see more integration between DR and PB or even to consolidate them. It'd be nice to instantly access reference books, other translations and dictionaries from within Daily Reader.

I will say though that in VGA it's been great. Using the two book feature is actually usable in VGA. Another is on my Toshiba e800, it comes with a text to speach program that works amazingly well with the ESV or NIV versions. I just copy the text from PB into the text to speach program and it reads it outloud with very few mistakes.

[GadgetMan]

I enjoy using Laridian, but it's long overdue for a makeover & upgrade. :? Hopefully they will take the opportunity to do that when they upgrade to optimally support VGA (which I am assuming they will do).

The current 2.x version of PocketBible has been released over FOUR years ago and it definitively shows its age. It is a real pain in the neck to manage all those Bibles and study tools, including switching between them, in the present form of the software.

I hope that Laridian will take a hint form Pocket e-Sword and finally come up with a new version that will offer much easier switching between various books.

Cheers,

[tanalasta]

Yeah I agree it would be nice to have an easier way to switch books :) And it takes quite a while to load up two books at the same time using my device. Still love Pocketbible though (and their latest round of discounts for users!).

I'd like to see Laridian develop a few add-on apps. One is I imported a daily reading schedule into Outlook and I'd love to be able to click a hyperlink in the appointment and open my reading for the day. If not that, at least a customizable daily reader program.

I second that :) How cool would it be to be able to have my daily reading linked to Pocket Informant or whichever PIM ppl use. 8)

[greenup]

FWIW, if I am studying, it is Young's Literal Translation. I'd find it hard to believe you could get closer the original Greek and Hebrew than Robert Young did. ...
Best of all, it is a free version at Laridian for Pocket Bible.

I share your understanding to study with a literal translation.

Have you tried the Amplified Version? (my personal favorite) Either my faith is weak(self-reliance/work/career), or I've just got misguided priorities, and learning Greek and Hebrew are years out on my tasklist, so I've settled for using the Amplified until then.

sample: (john 3:16)
"For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up His only begotten ([4] unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life."
http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?language=english&version=AMP&passage=all

I use laridian specifically because they had the Amplified when I was looking (olivetree has it now too) though I slightly preferred olivetree's reader. (particularly their verse chooser)

It's not free, though, so that is a bug. The HCSB does seem interesting, and if I wind up with some spare cash, I'll have to check it out.

[baker]

I don't know Greek or Hebrew...I use Strong's or another Greek or Hebrew dictionary. Now Ed might know'em.

[Ed Hansberry]

I don't know Greek or Hebrew...I use Strong's or another Greek or Hebrew dictionary. Now Ed might know'em.
No, I don't know Greek or Hebrew either, but I do read textual criticisms on some translations and read some books that discuss why they interpret some scriptures a certain way and often include quite a bit of Greek or Hebrew in the discussion.

Yes, I do have the Amplified version, and I do like it.

However, if I had to settle on two translations and delete all the rest, today, I'd say Young's literal and the HCSB, though I'd like to keep the NIV handy just in case I find that the HCSB isn't what I want to ultimately go to. :)

Fortunately, I don't have to delete the rest, so I continue to use the Message for casual reading, the NLT when reading with my son and his friends (very easy to understand without being a paraphrase) and a combo of Young's, Darby's, the Amplified, the NASB w/Greek|Hebrew for deeper study, not to mention all of the commentaries. :mrgreen:

[pivaska]

I just downloaded Pocket E-sword from http://www.e-sword.net/pocketpc/index.html and loaded it on my E800. I downloaded everything except the non-english bibles, etc. I put all but the original program on my 1gig cf card. All works perfectly. The total space other than the actual program is 235megs according to "folder size."

I also have PB on my ppc and after using both I am switching to e-sword because of the ease of use in switching bibles, going to commentaries, dictionaries, devotionals etc. It is a touch slow but knowing that Henry's commentaries are 76 megs it does take a second to two to load. I tried it in VGA and it still remains at Qvga screen size.

The ideal would be if the notes between the program on my desktop and ppc would sync.

[Ed Hansberry]

Note: If you have the HCSB and Daily Reader, Laridian has released an update to Daily Reader that allows it to work with the HCSB. It'll be in your library at Laridian's site.

[Lex]

FWIW, Pocket e-Sword is up to version 2.5.2 and ESV and HCSB are FREE. Yea. Luckily I only had one additional Laridian resource so I'm going with PES for now. Works faster at verse finding and book changing than Laridian. Does take 15 seconds to launch - - no biggie.

[Ed Hansberry]

FWIW, Pocket e-Sword is up to version 2.5.2 and ESV and HCSB are FREE.
That is amazing how they can post it for free. Well, enjoy it. It is a great translation and I like it more each day I read it. :way to go:

[Jonathon Watkins]

FWIW, Pocket e-Sword is up to version 2.5.2 and ESV and HCSB are FREE.
That is amazing how they can post it for free. Well, enjoy it. It is a great translation and I like it more each day I read it. :way to go:

Free is good. Downloading now......

[Lex]

FWIW, Pocket e-Sword is up to version 2.5.2 and ESV and HCSB are FREE.
That is amazing how they can post it for free. Well, enjoy it. ... Me too. I figure Rick either paid the freight or the publisher saw a value in offering it through his project. What a service ! I gotta $end that guy $ome $upport.