More palmspeak about batteries

[Kacey Green]

According to palmOne, its 950 mAh battery is capable of powering this handheld for about a week of normal use.
:roll:
Brighthand is quoting palm one about one of their zier models

why can't these goons get with the picture and measue battery life in hours like all the PPC manufactures and phone companies/phone manufacturers 0X

What is "normal use anyway? turning the unit on and letting it auto power off once per day per week? Do palms us back up batteries or do you have to worry about a battery induced hard-reset?

Thoughts?

[jnajera]

Typical Palm crap, just like thier comparason sheet(CRAP)!

[Sven Johannsen]

What is "normal use anyway?

'Normal use', is that use that allows the batteries to last for about a week....obviously.

[Weyoun6]

Which would obviously be about 2 milliseconds a hour.

[Kacey Green]

What is "normal use anyway?

'Normal use', is that use that allows the batteries to last for about a week....obviously.

:lol:

[Fishie]

Its a ZEN thing, people who adhere to the ZEN of Palm(now PalmOne) are so spiritually balanced that they dont need them gadget, they can get their lives in order by just buying one and charging it once a week.

People who actually use those devices are called poweruserswhoseverelylackinZEN, these poweruserswhoseverelylackinZEN generally use the hardware they buy and they have to content with woefully inadequate batterylifes often far lower then 3 houres of actual use.

PalmOne doesnt like reporting about what they call poweruserswhoseverelylackinZEN since these poweruserswhoseverelylackinZEN generally like to complain about the short battery life of these devices.

[mangochutneyman]

Which would obviously be about 2 milliseconds a hour.

If you're talking about the Z31, the battery does actually last pretty long... However the Z72 battery is weak...

[Kacey Green]

Its a ZEN thing, people who adhere to the ZEN of Palm(now PalmOne) are so spiritually balanced that they dont need them gadget, they can get their lives in order by just buying one and charging it once a week.

That would be so freekin' awsome if you only need to turn it on for entertainment, but to keep you life in order you just had to keep a charge.

and if it runs windows mobile

[Fishie]

Which would obviously be about 2 milliseconds a hour.

If you're talking about the Z31, the battery does actually last pretty long... However the Z72 battery is weak...

A stress test where the battery lasts for well under 3 houres is GOOD?

[Fishie]

Which would obviously be about 2 milliseconds a hour.

If you're talking about the Z31, the battery does actually last pretty long... However the Z72 battery is weak...

Here ya go: The Zire 31 is backed by a 200 MHz Intel ARM processor coupled with 16 MB of RAM (14 MB user-accessible). That's an impressive processor for this price range, although the RAM is about average.

That processor, however, does a number on battery life. In our usual AtomSmash burndown tests with the screen on maximum brightness, the Zire 31 lasted a mere 2 hours 14 minutes before giving its first warning, finally dying after only 2 hours, 38 minutes. Given that palmOne's previous handhelds in this price-range in some cases had double-digit battery life, that is very unfortunate.

[Fishie]

Thats from Infosync BTW and they call the battery life HORRIBLE and YES it IS shorther then the battery life of the Zire 72.

[Kacey Green]

whoah, triple post, i've only managed that once to my recollection

[Zack Mahdavi]

Well, the people that buy the Zire 31 aren't really going to know or care so much about battery specs. They'll read the box, see that it says "1 week battery life" and buy it. That's why PalmOne can get away with that.

[Kacey Green]

people like that are why we don't have better products on the market :evil: Uneducated/uninformed consumers :evil:

[Janak Parekh]

people like that are why we don't have better products on the market :evil: Uneducated/uninformed consumers :evil:
If it's any consolation, most people have stopped touting Palms' "weeks" of battery life over comparable Pocket PCs.

--janak

[Kacey Green]

Janak my parents have switched from palm to PPC after seeing that my old Phillips nino could do more than their palm units, they both have dell axims, x5 and x3i, my dad has owned two, and he used to be pro palm.

My mom used to have a palm, she hated it, she would rather use a paper day timer than the palm, she had the same attitude to her x5 at first but only 2.5 weeks after she got it she was hooked, though she couldn't understand why she had to use pocket informant, textmaker, etc. but she now prefers those to the rom apps

so back to the point, could the palm users have stopped touting the battery life because they couldn't acheive weeks of battery life on their own devices?

[Janak Parekh]

so back to the point, could the palm users have stopped touting the battery life because they couldn't acheive weeks of battery life on their own devices?
Not precisely -- the old Palm devices (e.g., B&W units) did have crazy battery life (on the order of many tens of hours), so the "month" excuse could fly a little.

The real reason people don't talk about it anymore is because, now, Palms often have worse battery life than Pocket PCs.

--janak

[Kacey Green]

you mean the old ones with the AAA batteries or the old ones with rechargable batteries?

[billbuckner]

My old Palm V could last a few days of heavy use and still have half it's power left. I still use it on long airplane trips, because of the huge life.

[Kacey Green]

hmm, could my bad experiance with older palms battery life have come from the palm IIIc and VII?

[billbuckner]

The 3c had awful battery life. Ditto with the 7

[Jason Dunn]

Palms used to have excellent battery life, but it was easy to see why: low-res 160 x 160 monochrome screens, 16 mhz Dragonball CPU. The claim of "weeks" was accurate - but it was a combination of those lower-power parts and the fact that the usability scenarios were different. People with Palm Vx's didn't/couldn't use them to listen to MP3s or play games on a 320 x 240 colour screen like we were doing with our E-125's back in the day.

Many modern-day Palms have worse battery life than the equivalent Pocket PCs, but most Web sites seem to ignore that. There's a lot of justification going on when they review Palms, and a lot of criticism when it comes to Pocket PCs. If reviewers could take off the blinders and be more realistic about battery life comments, it would serve the buying public much better.

[Fishie]

Wich is what infosync did, they put it bluntly, horrible battery life.

[Kacey Green]

There's a lot of justification going on when they review Palms, and a lot of criticism when it comes to Pocket PCs. If reviewers could take off the blinders and be more realistic about battery life comments, it would serve the buying public much better.

Thankfully this is slowly but surely going away, but it's kind of funny where we stand today, like the frontpage link to the shootout where the PPC lost so much it wasn't even funny. (I have to get back to work and can't find the link it was writtin by the palm book author.)

or this http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12695

[Jason Dunn]

Wich is what infosync did, they put it bluntly, horrible battery life.

And I applaud them for that honesty! :D

[Fishie]

Thats what I like about Infosync.