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Jason Dunn
03-19-2004, 12:28 AM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.mtekk.com.au/browse/page665.html' target='_blank'>http://www.mtekk.com.au/browse/page665.html</a><br /><br /></div>"Following on from our previous story of the specifications for Motorola's forthcoming MPx and MPx100, pricing has now been announced for the Windows Mobile 2003 based devices. The MPx Pocket PC Phone will retail for 749 euro - approximately USD$920, or AUD$1240, not accounting for typical variations in price between countries - while the MPx100 Smartphone will sell for 469 euro - about AUD$780 or USD$575."<br /><br />There's a brief story at MTekk that cites a supposed price for the Motorola MPx - there's no indication of the source, so treat this as a rumour for now. $920 USD equivalent is expensive, but then again, this is a bleeding-edge device, and I'm sure Motorola doesn't bank on selling that many of them. Still no firm price from <a href="http://estore.shopplex.com/app/storefront.aspx?cat_id=162&inv_id=40302110143250&modid=30214092059015&aid=5">Tek 'n Toys</a>, but hopefully they'll come in a bit lower than $920 USD...

Paragon
03-19-2004, 12:36 AM
OUCH!

surur
03-19-2004, 12:46 AM
Thats about £500, presumably without contract. Which would make it about £300 on contract, which is less than I paid for my XDA 2.

So.. bring it on...

Surur

Paul
03-19-2004, 12:53 AM
Choke Choke 8O
Well, as mentioned, I hope the real subsidized cost is much lower.
Here's hoping for Amazon rebates... :wink:

ctmagnus
03-19-2004, 01:16 AM
Iirc, I've seen Dell advertising notebooks for less than that. 8O

garrans
03-19-2004, 01:24 AM
I'm thinking damage / loss insurance on those might be the way to go. Even with a $100 deductible..... it would probably be worth it.

maximum360
03-19-2004, 01:26 AM
The MPX is offically off the wish list. :evil:

QYV
03-19-2004, 01:33 AM
Keep in mind that this is unsubsidized, folks. It's probably going to be more like $500 if you get it through a carrier.

bkerrins
03-19-2004, 01:50 AM
$900+ is still too tough to swallow. Now that laptops are starting to integrate cell phone technology there is not that much separating the two. I think a lot of consumers just don't have that kind of cash...I guess I'll be waiting for another generation of improvements until the cost is something I can afford.

yslee
03-19-2004, 02:12 AM
But it's in Euros.. and traditionally aren't electronics cheaper in the US?

Paragon
03-19-2004, 02:13 AM
But it's in Euros.. and traditionally aren't electronics cheaper in the US?

Very good point!

Paul P
03-19-2004, 02:16 AM
I was hoping it would be around 700-750, but 920 is a fair price for having a device that does and has absolutely everything one can want (at least for the time being). Moto has no competition on this one for all the features that it offers. I guess we'll have to wait till it's in the 600 range. I say 4-6 months after release? Then again, there will be something new by then.

cesarfong
03-19-2004, 02:20 AM
mpx 100 almost 600 US$ with this prices.. what will we expected of hp 6000 series... ???

tennisslim
03-19-2004, 02:32 AM
Not that bad considering I paid $840 for the I-Mate + $100 more for a SD Wi-fi card. The motorola also has a 1.3 megapixel camera nad landscape mode. I don't think they are way off with pricing.

mmarlor
03-19-2004, 02:52 AM
There's a brief story at MTekk that cites a supposed price for the Motorola MPx - there's no indication of the source, so treat this as a rumour for now.

Hiya Jason,

Source was actually a couple of Moto press releases in German, quoted at the bottom of the article :-D I note that Modaco and a couple of others also picked it up.

I believe we'll see some pricing variation between countries, although the AUD amount is actually pretty damn close (for both the MPx and MPx100) to current devices on the market down here - so I don't expect Australian prices to change all that much ...

HTH

Matt

Ed@Brighthand
03-19-2004, 04:40 AM
Could be worse. The Nokia 9500 Communicator was announced at about the same time as the MPx and it has a similar feature set, including GSM/GPRS, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, camera, keyboard, etc. Nokia said the price (unsubsidized) of this model will be around 800 Euros, which works out to be $1000.

jimski
03-19-2004, 05:33 AM
"Following on from our previous story of the specifications for Motorola's forthcoming MPx and MPx100, pricing has now been announced for the Windows Mobile 2003 based devices. The MPx Pocket PC Phone will retail for 749 euro - approximately USD$920, or AUD$1240, not accounting for typical variations in price between countries - while the MPx100 Smartphone will sell for 469 euro - about AUD$780 or USD$575."

And this is why Smart Phones will NOT take the World by storm in the next few years rendering the PDA obsolete. I know many people who have never paid for a cellphone (I on the other hand have never gotten one for free, unless you want to include that silly Sony-Ericsson thing that ATT sent me last week-already replaced with a T616).

I know this is cutting edge and all but until Dell starts selling Smart Phones for $49 with a 2 year contract, these are going to be specialty devices for well to do geeks.

Of course this opinion comes from a two device guy till the very end. Now show me a that dream machine (what would you pay for a PPC?) everyone was posting about earlier this week and I will be at the front of the line with my $920.

Abba Zabba
03-19-2004, 06:07 AM
mpx 100 almost 600 US$ with this prices.. what will we expected of hp 6000 series... ???

Great point :evil: . I expect the hp to be close to the 1k mark unsubidized and close to the 700 - 750 mark (US) subsidized. Do they actually think that most consumers or even the business clients that supposedly they're targeting will pay such steep prices for a device? I think not. If the powers that be feel that this year or next is the year of the smartphone they have something new coming to them 0X

AndyD
03-19-2004, 12:51 PM
Damn that's too much. I rather buy a lifebook or something. I'm staying away from this for now :(

dsleeper
03-19-2004, 01:31 PM
AT&amp;T has this device at retail &lt;$400 and I paid $169 just yesterday.

AndyD
03-19-2004, 01:37 PM
AT&amp;T has this device at retail &lt;$400 and I paid $169 just yesterday.

The mpx is out?? I'm pretty sure it was said that it would be out in 2Q04.

dsleeper
03-19-2004, 02:08 PM
Holding it as we "speak". Pretty wonderful device...few peculiarities but some I will figure out and others will be tolerable. I dumped my Siemens 56 full-size pocketpc phone and have no regrets.

Maybe all this dialog is about the next version of this device which has support for the 850 network which is supposed to be out in the next 6-8 weeks?

UCCOFFEE
03-19-2004, 02:12 PM
AUD$1240+GST , that's cheaper than original XDA2 RRP, although XDA2 is down to 1290 (including GST) now...
Q3...3 months... i dun think that ll happen at all...
Maybe late Q4... still got at least 6 months to go....

dsleeper
03-19-2004, 02:16 PM
I'm baffled by the info flying around so just to be sure I'm being clear.

I just purchased the Motorola MPx200 Smartphone with Windows Mobile 2002 at an AT&amp;T Wireless Store in downtown Seattle WA.

This is not the version of the phone with support for the 850 network and it does not yet have an available WM 2003 upgrade.

But...it's retail price was shown at &lt;$400 in the store and by the time I signed my life over for the various massive minutes and unltd data contract, it cost me $169.

Not at all sure what all this other talk of unavailable and enormous prices is all about. Hope others find that helpful.

mmarlor
03-19-2004, 02:21 PM
I'm baffled by the info flying around so just to be sure I'm being clear.

I just purchased the Motorola MPx200 Smartphone with Windows Mobile 2002 at an AT&amp;T Wireless Store in downtown Seattle WA.

This is not the version of the phone with support for the 850 network and it does not yet have an available WM 2003 upgrade.

But...it's retail price was shown at &lt;$400 in the store and by the time I signed my life over for the various massive minutes and unltd data contract, it cost me $169.

Not at all sure what all this other talk of unavailable and enormous prices is all about. Hope others find that helpful.

There is currently one Motorola Smartphone released - the MPx200, which runs Smartphone 2002. The devices mentioned - MPx and MPx100 - are new devices which have been announced, but not yet released.

The MPx is a new Windows Mobile 2003 based Pocket PC Phone, and the MPx100 a Windows Mobile 2003 based Smartphone.

cesarfong
03-19-2004, 02:30 PM
Do they actually think that most consumers or even the business clients that supposedly they're targeting will pay such steep prices for a device? I think not. If the powers that be feel that this year or next is the year of the smartphone they have something new coming to them 0X

that's right in my case i will never have the possibilitie to find in my country one of this gadget subsidized.. altough they will be subsidized by a carrier ... they are still toooo expensive (noone has extra 1 k to spent 8O 8O )

rock
03-19-2004, 03:14 PM
No way. I'd much rather spend my money on something much more powerful that can do so much more, the OQO. I'll be happy with my cheap Z600 and OQO.

http://www.oqo.com/hardware/specs/

Jason Lee
03-19-2004, 04:02 PM
Well now knowing that the Mpx is only tri-band i can't use it. :really mad:
Guess I'll have to get the hp 6300. When are people gonna realize that 1900 coverage sux in the US. We need 850/1900 PPC phones and smart phones. Better yet 850/900/1800/1900. Geeezz.... :roll:

cesarfong
03-19-2004, 04:15 PM
quadriband ... the best 0X 0X 0X

Phoenix
03-19-2004, 10:09 PM
$920 ?!? Good grief, what are they expecting people to mortgage their homes to buy this thing?

WAY TOO MUCH!

I spent $800 on my P900. That in and of itself is a fortune, but any more than that is just too much to spend - I don't care how bleeding edge it is.

Hopefully, this device will either enter with a much better price than that or it will fall quickly. Time will tell.

Until then, I'll just make the most of my P900 and enjoy it until Moto finds reason and prices it accordingly.

$920. :grumble: Gimme a break. :roll:

Paragon
03-19-2004, 10:47 PM
Here is what I see as the problem with what appears to be the increasing cost of PPC converged devices....Before Dell forced the price of PPCs down the argument between Palm and PPC usually came down to cost. You could buy a Palm for a lot less money. Yes you could do more with a PPC but for many when they looked at the cost difference they said no way! When Dell brought the price down we really saw PPC gain market share. So, here wew are again. You can buy a Palm OS devcie for a fraction of the cost....YES I know it doesn't compare in features, but when the majority of people see the huge difference in the cost between Palm and PPC converged devices, once again they are going to say NO WAY!

Personally I'm finding it very difficult to sell people on a PPC converged device because of the cost especially here in Canada. Look at the math: $920.00 USD = $1220.00 CND +50.00 shipping +190.50 taxes + $25.00 brokarage = $1485.50 CND or a Tungsten W for $550.00. This is provided you can by an unlocked device, and get warranty and support with it. Again I know there is a difference in the features......but almost three times the cost...Its getting very hard to justify. Only the hardcore are going to bite! Making them fringe devices at best. I don`t think that is what anyone hopes for.

Dave

bdeli
03-20-2004, 12:06 AM
Some new pics here - http://www.mobileburn.com/gallery.jsp?Id=666&source=HOMETOP

bdeli
03-20-2004, 12:11 AM
Personally I'm finding it very difficult to sell people on a PPC converged device because of the cost especially here in Canada. Look at the math: $920.00 USD = $1220.00 CND +50.00 shipping +190.50 taxes + $25.00 brokarage = $1485.50 CND or a Tungsten W for $550.00. This is provided you can by an unlocked device, and get warranty and support with it. Again I know there is a difference in the features......but almost three times the cost...Its getting very hard to justify. Only the hardcore are going to bite! Making them fringe devices at best. I don`t think that is what anyone hopes for.

Dave

You are totally right on this Dave! A blackberry 7280 will end up costing almost 1/3 of the mpx on a two year contract.

Paragon
03-20-2004, 12:53 AM
You are totally right on this Dave! A blackberry 7280 will end up costing almost 1/3 of the mpx on a two year contract.

Hey Brian, where have you been? Haven't heard from you in ages!

....and I'll bet you're using a Blackberry at 1/3 the cost?!

bdeli
03-20-2004, 01:00 AM
Hey Brian, where have you been? Haven't heard from you in ages!

....and I'll bet you're using a Blackberry at 1/3 the cost?!

've been in NY, Washington, London, Malta etc etc....

As for the blackberry when they get one with wifi i will switch!

yslee
03-20-2004, 01:12 PM
Guys, like I said, the price is in Euros, and it might not be a final price, so don't get all too upset now.

I don't have prices for phones, but let's talk digital cameras and PocketPCs as a comparison

from dpreview.com:

Canon PowerShot Pro1:
Announced Price in US - US$999
Announced Price in Europe - 1199 Euros

Nikon D2H
List Price in US - US$3999
List Price in Europe - 4000 Euros

Canon Powershot A70
Announced Price in US - US$449
Announced Price in Europe - 429 Euros

Now, onto PocketPCs

2210/2215, from HP's regional sites:
Price in US - US$399
Price in Germany - 499 Euros

Just a few examples, but you'll find it's pretty much the same for many items.. so, don't fret just yet! (unless you're from Europe, hehe)

(edit: ah, how come I can't get the Euro sign to show up? I'm pretty sure I got it right)

Michel
03-23-2004, 04:16 PM
Given that the P900 costs about ?650-700 right now (without sales tax + no carrier), the ?750 price tag seems quite reasonable given all the features the MPx offers.

I'll definitely get myself one.

bdeli
03-28-2004, 06:09 PM
More close-up pics (http://www.mobilegadgetnews.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1045&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0).