More Pics Of the Motorola MPx300

[Ed Hansberry]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=2465099#post2465099' target='_blank'>http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...099#post2465099</a><br /><br /></div>Hot on the heels of <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=216666">yesterday's shots of the new Motorola MPx300 Pocket PC phone</a> come these images from Howard's Forums, which is running really slow rightnow.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/2004/20040219-mpx300-1.jpg" /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/2004/20040219-mpx300-2.jpg" /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/2004/20040219-mpx300-3.jpg" /><br /><br />Definitely a dual hinged device. :drool:

[webfeets]

I think this is the most inovative design that I've seen in quite some time. I'm onboard for sure.

I wonder when it will be released. Any ideas on who will carry it?

[tirsch]

Wow...I'm going to blow off the Ipaq 6xxx series in favor of this bad buy. Whatever carrier has this has my business!

[powder2000]

You gotta wonder what the durability of such a unique design is. Cool nonetheless.

[juni]

I notice in the pics that it hasn't switched to landscape when rotated....hmmm... (except in the first one...did it do that on-the-fly?)

[entropy1980]

:ppclove: I think I'm in love! Please o please o please include WiFi as well as Bluetooth!!

[Jason Dunn]

I think I've died and gone to heaven. 8O

[huangzhinong]

i think it is not dual hinge. It can only rotate 90 degree. No tablet model, which is why there is a smaller lcd on the front.

[manywhere]

I think I've died and gone to heaven. 8O
Me too... :D

[blazio]

"Dual swingage"...they should market that term!

You heard it here first ladies and gents!!

Now where is the number to the trademark dept....

0X
The Martians have landed!

[huangzhinong]

"Dual swingage"...they should market that term!

You heard it here first ladies and gents!!

Now where is the number to the trademark dept....

0X
The Martians have landed!

You think it's funny. I am happy you like it.

[dangerwit]

Man, I gotta say that's a pretty cool device. I'm anxious to learn more about it.

[possmann]

I have a new NEEEEEEED :werenotworthy:

Wouldn't it be cool if this devices is scheduled to run on the 2004 OS - with the 480x640 and built in screen rotation/definition capabilty - add at least bluetooth - or better yet the intel GSM/GPRS/WIFI stack....

:jawdrop:

[manywhere]

i think it is not dual hinge. It can only rotate 90 degree. No tablet model, which is why there is a smaller lcd on the front.
It think they mean by "dual hinge" that it can rotate around two axises which is what I see in the pictures above. However, the dual hinge can be limited to only allow partial rotation, i.e. not allow 180 degree twists like the tablet pcs can. This device seems to have restricted dual hinges or the likenesses of that. :wink:

[David Prahl]

That device is "the one". 8O

Please please make it to market!

[Partita]

Wow, this thing is beyond cool. It's...actually innovative!. :lol:

I wonder what happen if I twist it the wrong way. mmmm..better buy extra warranty.

I hope this has WiFi.

[Kevin Remhof]

We are all going to look like such geeks carrying these around. I can't wait!!!

[powder2000]

Is it me or did that camera flip up from the back? That is a cool feature that will allow you to use it two ways.

[Partita]

two questions:
-I want to know how they gonna design the case. (Hah! this will look like a 3D puzzle)
-Will the buttons change orientation when the screen does? How will the thumboard looks like with symbol running every direction. maybe that's part of the charm.

[powder2000]

Ok, after looking at the two sets of photos from this post and yesterdays post, I am confused. Notice the camera attachment from todays post, it really doesn' t look like the camera from yesterdays post would flip up. On the flipside :lol: the sd slot is on the side while the camera from todays post is on top. One of these images is either a fake or older. Please don' t be a fake.

[drop]

Is the source reliable? This is too cool :drool: !

Hard to guess what this baby is going to cost not knowing the spec. But I am officially in fund raising mode.

I echo powder2000's sentiment, "Please don't be a fake."

[portus]

There's a picture analysis over at Jason's other web site smartphonethoughts.com (http://smartphonethoughts.com) which indicates that this Moto is definitely a double-hinged clam-shell device.

[Duncan]

Some thoughts:

1) The original picture and the new pictures differ in a number of details (camera, keyboard etc.). There is no guarantee that either represents the end model.

That said:

2) How big is the screen and what resolution?
3) BT? WiFi? Both?
4) How much RAM? 64MB? 128MB?
5) Processor speed?
6) SD slot only or dual slot?

Frankly, I can see a lot of people getting excited over just one detail - the hinged screen. Firstly - every other spec *may* turn out to disappoint - making the hinge somewhat of a gimmick. Secondly - I'm not sure how this is innovation! VGA is innovation, triple-wireless is innovation. This dual hinge thing is - well, not very exciting! A hinge that allowed tablet style use as well as a keyboard (a la Sony UX50) would be more useful - and a dual hinge is a recipe for disaster (two hinges to get broken? - as well as the possibility of the single fixed hinge point proving to be a weak point...). I can see a number of ergonomic 'everyday use' issues with the design as well.

Sorry to be a party pooper but some of the posts here seem way OTT about how cool this phone is over one fairly odd implementation of a design feature that could be implemented much better! Before proclaiming this as a must have device - shall we learn a few more things about it first and see how it compares to other upcoming PPCs (e.g. the iPAQ 6300).

[JonnoB]

Holy cow, this thing looks cool. I suspect it to be one of the first devices to sport the 2004 OS.

[drop]

I can promise you it is not the "double-hinge feature" that takes my breath away :wink: .

Maybe the spec would turn out to be a disappointment or may be not. But it is still nice to see an attempt on a different design.

[JonnoB]

Motorola sure is getting in tight with Microsoft. Even the MPx100 info has been leaked. Looks to be another MS based phone.

See this mobile9 (http://www.mobile9.com/news/motorola_mpx100_pictures_leaked.html) forum.

[neema]

I think

"Sorry to be a party pooper but some of the posts here seem way OTT about how cool this phone is over one fairly odd implementation of a design feature that could be implemented much better! "

this is missing the point a little bit....THe fact that this device has a KEYBOARD and is a PPC with an integrated phone (IN A CLAMSHELL DESIGN) makes this the device we are all drooling over. Ever since the Sony UX50 came out all I wanted was a PPC with a similar design + cell phone capability....if this is a real device then I too have had my prayers answered and I too will switch to whichever carrier has this device

That said, it AT LEAST has to have Wi-fi...PLLLLLLLLLLEASE! PRETTY PLEASE?

[Jonathon Watkins]

this is missing the point a little bit....THe fact that this device has a KEYBOARD and is a PPC with an integrated phone (IN A CLAMSHELL DESIGN) makes this the device we are all drooling over.

Agreed - this design innovates in a number of ways. At LAST we are getting some devices that look significant different to the normal cookie cutter PPCs. Lets hope that this is the start of a trend! :mrgreen:

[hopeful797]

does motorola have a license (as HP arranged) to have blackberry RIM compatiable push email on any of their devices?

[Duncan]

I think

"Sorry to be a party pooper but some of the posts here seem way OTT about how cool this phone is over one fairly odd implementation of a design feature that could be implemented much better! "

this is missing the point a little bit....THe fact that this device has a KEYBOARD and is a PPC with an integrated phone (IN A CLAMSHELL DESIGN) makes this the device we are all drooling over.

I'm not missing the point at all. I would love a UX50 type PPC design.... and if this was a clamshell that could rotate to be a standard tablet style PPC as well then I would agree that the clamshell design was a good thing. I just happen to think that a) the nature of the clamshell design chosen shows missed opportunities (and is rather clumsy) and b) if the rest of the specs are lacklustre then the clamshell design will fall a bit flat.

Innovation can be good - but sometimes, when it is ill thought out, it can also be a case of 'so what'...

If this turns out to be QVGA, 64MB RAM, single slot and no BT/WiFi - and you can only use it with keyboard extended - will you really want to jump ship to it from your current PPC? Would you really prefer it to the iPAQ 6300 or one of the other cool PPCs with keyboards on the way...

[mangochutneyman]

OMG!!!!!!! 8O 8O

I think this might actually convert a PalmOS user! :wink:

[carphead]

As the advert says "Hello Moto" you will be mine (if Psion don't beat you to it!) :)

[huangzhinong]

If this turns out to be QVGA, 64MB RAM, single slot and no BT/WiFi - and you can only use it with keyboard extended - will you really want to jump ship to it from your current PPC? Would you really prefer it to the iPAQ 6300 or one of the other cool PPCs with keyboards on the way...

Until next few weeks, we may not know the detail spec. I am also concerned about the horsepower under the hood. If only hinged LCD with phone ability, the innovation is still not big enough, at least not essential for a perfect PPC phone. Some hardware requirements have to be meet, such as bt/wi-fi, 128mb ram and buildin GPS(which is standard for mPX100).

[dma1965]

The most exciting thing about this device is not so much the design, as is the fact that having a competitor to the 6000 series iPaq will force hp to bow to the market. For that matter, the more devices we have of this caliber, the more market friendly the other manufacturers will have to become. THAT is what I am excited about! :mrgreen:

[arnage2]

if it has landscape, does it mean that the mpx300 is wm2004?

[Anjuan Simmons]

TRANSFORMERS! MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE! :mrgreen:

Ok, now that I have that out of my system . . . While I agree with those who say that specs are key, the style factor is a big plus for me. This is just a cool looking device!

[jackdaniels]

These pics from hofo must be early prototype models because the keyboard on the first MPx300 pic that we saw has a different layout. I know that we never saw the full pic of the keyboard but the keys/buttons are definitely not in the same place. The pics from hofo appear to be 2 different but very similar models.

[phenderson]

AUTOBOTS FIGHT THEIR BATTLES TO DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES OFFFFFFFFFFF&lt; THE DECEPTICONS!

Ok, I had to get that out my system as well...lol...
Yep this thing looks like a reallllll winner. Maybe will outdo the XDA-2 and the HP 6300

[szamot]

[quote="phenderson"]AUTOBOTS FIGHT THEIR BATTLES TO DESTROY THE EVIL FORCES OFFFFFFFFFFF&lt; THE DECEPTICONS!

Ok, I had to get that out my system as well...lol...
Yep this thing looks like a reallllll winner. Maybe will outdo the XDA-2 and the HP 6300[/quote

I don't know about outdoing XDA-2, there is something calming and zen-line about XDA-2 that has me all excited..I mean going ummmmmmm

[Eraserhead]

I agree to Duncan, for what I can see it has a small keyboard so you cant really type on it a lot, Its to big to really be a good phone and the screen is too small to really be useful. I would rather want something like the Treo 600 with the PPC OS and all.

[mace]

OK, I need to start coming up with reasons/excuses to upgrade, my wife will not be too happy upon seeing the bills for all these new toys I want.

Anyone have any suggestions? :D

This form factor is the design I have been wanting for a long time. If it has at least 128MB RAM and Bluetooth with WM 2004, I'm sold.

[mangochutneyman]

Something evil's watching over you
Comin' from the sky above
And there's nothing you can do

Prepare to strike
There'll be no place to run
When your caught within the grip
Of the evil Unicron

Strong enough to break the bravest heart
So we have to pull together
We can't stay worlds apart

To stand divided we will surely fall
Until our darkest hour
When the light will save us all

Autobots wage their Battle
To destroy the evil forces
Of the Decepticons

It's judgement day and now we've made our stand
And now the powers of darkness
Have been driven from our land

The Battle's over but the war has just begun
And this way it will remain til the day when all are one

Transformers
More than meets the eye
Transformers
Robots in Disguise
Transformers... :wink:

Btw... did I mention I want the MPx300?

[yslee]

Heck, who needs BT? I'll be fine with 64MB RAM even. Just give me a properly working and usable QWERTY board, a good form factor, good implementation of software, the usual PPC stuff, and I'm gonna save up for this guy! =D

[ignar]

I agree to Duncan, for what I can see it has a small keyboard so you cant really type on it a lot, Its to big to really be a good phone and the screen is too small to really be useful. I would rather want something like the Treo 600 with the PPC OS and all.

Well, it looks like it has a bigger screen and keyboard than those of Treo 600.

[Eraserhead]

What I meant was that it's too big to be a good phone and to small to be a good PDA with keyboard because the keyboard is way to small. The Treo 600 is much more of a phone. What I want is something like the Psion Revo running the PPC OS with built in wifi and Bluetooth. Then you could do some serious writing and web browsing and it would be similar in size as the MPx 300.

But the brilliant thing about the MPx 300 is that finally PPC manufactures are allowed to "think different" and come up with something different then the other manufactures..

[gohtor]

impressive design but I wouldn't buy it cuz it is silly to have it open up in 2 different ways.

[ntractv]

Okay, this is only my 2 cents:

Innovative: Yes
Cool Factor: 100
Design: New and Original

But, here is where I tend to move away from this device. I have a office issued Blackberry. This thing can go a week without recharging in the cradle. Got a batch of Blackberry's in the office to try them out with phone capabilities and everyone tried to turn them back in because they did not want to be tied to a charger every time you turned around. Sorry, but, I am a two device person for now. I have my iPAQ 5555 which is primarily for PIM purposes along with some entertainment, gaming features, music, video, picture browsing, etc. With this it seems I would have to have a portable charger with me every 30 minutes if I had an extensive phone call. Sorry, but for me, I prefer to keep the devices separate.

[jeasher]

This is the type of device that will convert me to a single device user. I need a keyboard, phone, large memory, BT, Wi-fi, PPC OS, and small form factor in my device (not in that order).

[jlhorng]

Sorry, but, I am a two device person for now. I have my iPAQ 5555 which is primarily for PIM purposes along with some entertainment, gaming features, music, video, picture browsing, etc. With this it seems I would have to have a portable charger with me every 30 minutes if I had an extensive phone call. Sorry, but for me, I prefer to keep the devices separate.

You are not along. Me, a 2 devices person as well. I often use my right hand to jog down important information on my iPaq while my left hand holds my Nokia phone.

How can you do this if one has a combined device? I always wonder....

MPx200 is innovated though.

[jeasher]

Sorry, but, I am a two device person for now. I have my iPAQ 5555 which is primarily for PIM purposes along with some entertainment, gaming features, music, video, picture browsing, etc. With this it seems I would have to have a portable charger with me every 30 minutes if I had an extensive phone call. Sorry, but for me, I prefer to keep the devices separate.

You are not along. Me, a 2 devices person as well. I often use my right hand to jog down important information on my iPaq while my left hand holds my Nokia phone.

How can you do this if one has a combined device? I always wonder....

MPx200 is innovated though.

Ha. Exactly. I forgot to add speakerphone in my above wish list.

[Eraserhead]

I am a three device person, Phone, PDA and notebook replacement(the psion series 7) but lately I have though about getting a phone/pda device because I want things to work more flawlessly and more invisible than they do with my setup. With a PDA phone I could get my e-mail pushed to the phone when ever they arive and also web surfing would be less of a hassle.

But now I’m going to wait and see what Psion will cook up and maybe I’ll buy a smart phone and the new 5mx with 800X480 color screen, Bluetooth and wifi and all that, at least I'm allowed to dream ; )

[Michel]

As a long time Palm user, I'd jump ship if this thing makes it into production: this is one sweet device....

[ppcsurfr]

Wow!!!

8O 8O 8O

This device is really cool!!!

This is one device I'd love to evaluate.

Mabuhay!!!

Carlo

[Thinkingmandavid]

WOW! NOw this is very cool looking and would be very useful. I would like to get my hands on one of these for a test run. This actually looks good and with windows would be awesome to use on a regular basis for work and play :wink:

[MLO]

Forget it.

It's most likely way out of my price range and I have better things to spend my money on since I already have a Pocket PC that I am satisfied with.

Even if I were to win one, it would go to my husband, since he is in desperate need of a Pocket PC or any handheld organizer.

Plus, having my phone AND PDA in one device gives me the willies. If one breaks, all break and I like to have a failover plan.

MLO

[maxnix]

With this it seems I would have to have a portable charger with me every 30 minutes if I had an extensive phone call. Sorry, but for me, I prefer to keep the devices separate.
If one can surrender a phone to a charger or switch batteries at night, a Smartphone or PDA Phone may cure your schizphrenia. :lol:

[beefamato]

This thing rocks! I think that wi-fi may be sadly a bit premature. It doesn't seem like it's been long enough since the low-power wifi units have been developed. I'm sure that a smartphone with wifi will require the low-power or else it will completely die with phone and networking functionality.

I have been holding on to my smartphone for 3 years now and I'm waiting for wifi to come out.

I wonder when handhelds and smartphones will start coming out with way bigger memories. Like 1GB. They've been hovering below 100MB for WAY too long

[tmulli]

It's about time Motorola came up with a new innovative design, ala the StarTac. If it makes it to market, all I got to say is... Hello Moto!!

[Eraserhead]

Screw the Motorola MX 300, I want the new Nokia 9500 Comunicator (http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,8764,54106,00.html) A little big, but what a beaty.

[yslee]

No Palm OS, no PocketPC, no go. =P

[jeasher]

No Palm OS, no PocketPC, no go. =P

Don't forget no wi-fi.

[Eraserhead]

If you are talking about the Nokia 9500 it has Wifi, bluetooth, GPRS and Camera. And I have used many Psion devices and if Symbian is anything like it in usability and the Epoc OS is the most stable OS I have ever used. I have owned and used my series 7 for over a year and only once have I used soft reset, and that was just to see how to soft reset the machine.
But tell me why wouldn’t you want a mobile Computer with other OS than Palm or PPPC ?

[jeasher]

If you are talking about the Nokia 9500 it has Wifi, bluetooth, GPRS and Camera. And I have used many Psion devices and if Symbian is anything like it in usability and the Epoc OS is the most stable OS I have ever used. I have owned and used my series 7 for over a year and only once have I used soft reset, and that was just to see how to soft reset the machine.
But tell me why wouldn’t you want a mobile Computer with other OS than Palm or PPPC ?

I must have missed it, I didn't see wi-fi listed among the specs. Sorry.

[MarcTGFG]

http://www.ppcw.net/index.php?itemid=1811

Arne Hess of ppcw.net just saw a somewhat hidden Moto ad live on the exhibition floor.

Go and see for yourself :-)

Strange keyboard layout IMO, no gap whatsoever between the keys, wonder how that feels like typing on...

[maher]

check out motorola web site .... phone to be called MPx, confirmed with the original photos and dual hinge, windows mobile

[Ed Hansberry]

http://www.motorola.com/mot/doc/1/1052_MotDoc.pdf

[jeasher]

That thing sounds spectacular! If it has battery life and is less than an inch thick, I'll have an iPAQ h4350 for sale!

[yslee]

wifi isn't important to me.. if I'm in a wifi area, it's either at home, so I can use my home PC, or school, in which I'd rather use my notebook, or near a public hotspot, which generally costs an insane US$0.12 a minute to use on average.

The reason why I won't use Symbian is because of the lack of 3rd party apps that fits my needs. I've searched for Symbian software a month or so back, and there are too few things for what I want. Though having Opera on a mobile device is cool. =D

Finally that thing is a BRICK. Nice brick, but as it is I already don't want anything like a XDAII, so this is definitely out.

Ed, you're evil. Thank you for destroying my sleep tonight. :twisted:

[JonnoB]

http://www.motorola.com/mot/doc/1/1052_MotDoc.pdf

Ed, I think that this deserves another front-page post. Confirmation of a WiFi, BT, phone device like this is huge. The only sad thing about it is that the document states a second-half of 2004 release.