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Palmguy
12-12-2003, 04:50 AM
For crying out loud Microsoft has me extremely pissed off right now. Forgive the language. Anyways, after reading through about half of the threads in the forum, I still can't solve my problem.

Netgear wireless router, no MAC filtering, no WEP, DHCP enabled. For some reason no handheld I have ever owned has worked with DHCP, except for the freaking UX-50. So I assigned a static IP to the iPAQ (4150). AP IP is 192.168.0.1. Subnet is 255.255.255.0...computers are 192.168.0.2,3, and 4...set the iPAQ at 192.168.0.5.

Connections -> Advanced -> Select Networks:

Both set to My Work Network, on Proxy tab box is selected for This network connects to the internet. Under configure network adapters in Network Card, My network card connects to Work, and it won't let me change it. I set it to The Internet and hit ok, and go right back into it and it is on Work again :evil: On the Wireless tab, it shows my SSID under Wireless networks and says connected. I have the double arrows indicating a connection, and four bars of signal strength. It says The Internet in the bubble.

When I open IE, I get Page you are looking for cannot be found instantaneously.

I can ping the iPAQ from my laptop, but I don't have any software on the iPAQ to do more in-depth network analysis, and I don't have the capability to install vxUtil or anything for a couple of days or until I get it online and can wirelessly AS.

Janak Parekh
12-12-2003, 05:44 AM
I can ping the iPAQ from my laptop, but I don't have any software on the iPAQ to do more in-depth network analysis, and I don't have the capability to install vxUtil or anything for a couple of days or until I get it online and can wirelessly AS.
Whoa. You really need a tool like vxUtil to debug this. :) Do you have an SD card or something that you can copy the CAB to?

And do realize you're going to need to USB ActiveSync once before doing it over WiFi anyway... is there a reason you can't do USB AS?

--janak

Palmguy
12-12-2003, 05:58 AM
Yeah I did realize that. I won't be able to USB AS because I'm an idiot and left my cradle at my apartment and won't have it for another couple days.


I've already USB AS with my desktop, which is also wirelessly enabled so I could theoretically sync if I could get the friggin' iPAQ online...


Do my settings appear to be correct?

Janak Parekh
12-12-2003, 06:09 AM
Do my settings appear to be correct?
Re IP: yes, that looks fine.

Re Connection Manager: I'm not sure, as I use a PPC2002 device on a daily basis and WM2003's confuses me 8O Maybe someone else can help you out there.

--janak

Vincent M Ferrari
12-12-2003, 06:30 AM
Re Connection Manager: I'm not sure, as I use a PPC2002 device on a daily basis and WM2003's confuses me 8O Maybe someone else can help you out there.

Sorry, don't mean to push this off topic, but I'm surprised you said that. I thought I was the only one.

Two days ago we threw a wireless access point on our network in the office so I could get some of our reps on the network without finding physical ports for them to hook up to. I had my Axim up in two minutes. For some reason, my friend never got his 5550 up even with some help...

At least we're not the only ones who think this "improvement" wasn't really an improvement... :?

Janak Parekh
12-12-2003, 06:33 AM
Sorry, don't mean to push this off topic, but I'm surprised you said that. I thought I was the only one.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's Palmguy's problem either ;) Palmguy, that's another reason to have vxUtil -- you can do ping and other tests from the iPAQ, and vxUtil doesn't use Connection Manager's settings per se -- it just tries to use established IP connections.

I think most of the PPCT editors weren't super-thrilled with WM2003's Connection Manager. Some might consider it two steps forward, one step backward; I consider it one step forward, one step backward. I presume that, just like PPC2002, I could get used to its idiosyncrasies, but I shouldn't have to! I preferred PPC2000 on this -- just like the desktop -- present me with the IP connections, and use the one that has a default route/gateway established. I never had a problem with that.

--janak

Palmguy
12-12-2003, 02:32 PM
I'm somewhat familiar with vxUtil...it's just that this is a brand new PPC and I haven't even had the chance to load it up with everything I need because I've been busy with finals and all...

That said, I'm up and running now...someone at BH recommended I enter something in for the DNS server (which I didn't have to do on my 2215)...so I tried the router's default gateway (didn't work) and then I just put the router's IP in for the DNS and bam, it worked.

Thanks for the help.

Regarding Connection Manager...it worked beautifully at UCF when I hooked up to the wireless network there...but the DHCP is working fine there and there was no config necessary. For some reason this Netgear router and PPCs don't get along in the way of DHCP. I agree though, I'd say it's a step forward and backwards at the same time...

Sven Johannsen
12-12-2003, 05:54 PM
You have to have a gateway entry and a DNS entry on the PPC. The gateway is 192.168.0.1 (your AP, actually the LAN IP of your router). The DNS is whatever you are using on all the rest of the boxes, provided by your ISP. They either told you what it is or it is being provided from the ISP via DHCP from the network.

If you don't have the DNS address, at a command prompt on a desktop, type ipconfig /all and it will be listed there.

The Netgear and AP should be providing those to your PPC via DHCP. Works fine on several of my PPCs two of them are 4150s, though my router/AP/switch is a linksys.

If you do static you must have, IP, Subnet Mask, Gateway and DNS entered.

vxUtil is a great way to see what you are missing over DHCP.

Janak Parekh
12-12-2003, 06:06 PM
You have to have a gateway entry and a DNS entry on the PPC. The gateway is 192.168.0.1 (your AP, actually the LAN IP of your router). The DNS is whatever you are using on all the rest of the boxes, provided by your ISP. They either told you what it is or it is being provided from the ISP via DHCP from the network.
The problem appears to be that EVERY device, except Pocket PCs, are getting the DNS info over DHCP from the NetGear router. :|

--janak

brianchris
12-12-2003, 07:28 PM
Re Connection Manager: I'm not sure, as I use a PPC2002 device on a daily basis and WM2003's confuses me 8O Maybe someone else can help you out there.

Sorry, don't mean to push this off topic, but I'm surprised you said that. I thought I was the only one.

Two days ago we threw a wireless access point on our network in the office so I could get some of our reps on the network without finding physical ports for them to hook up to. I had my Axim up in two minutes. For some reason, my friend never got his 5550 up even with some help...

At least we're not the only ones who think this "improvement" wasn't really an improvement... :?

Eureka.....I, too, can break my silence and come into the light!!!! One of the things touted as an imporvement in WM2003 was the connection Manager, but, at best, its the same, if not worse....and I thought I was the only one as well.

I'm a netadmin by trade, please, Microsoft, just give us our plain old network config screens back....I understand those (while the average consumer/user may not, I agree) Trying to second guess what the Connection Mangler means (either in 2003 or 2002), is no fun at all. AT THE VERY LEAST, give us the option to enable or diable the connection mangler. [Rant over]

-Brian

Vulcan
12-13-2003, 06:59 PM
I am able to connect via WiFi to my wireless router all the time. I have DCHP, WEP and Mac address control turn on and it works flawlessly. I can also connect to other unsecured networks when out and about. I did find it much easier to locate and connect to other networks after I installed Toshibia's new WiFi doctor software (free download from Toshibia's European site but I have not seen it on their Canadian site yet). It has some basic tools to see where the problem is and has a nice graphical interface for warwalking. I am using the E750.

CorysWorld
12-21-2003, 06:13 AM
FYI: I have a 4150 and I have had no problems connecting to my LinkSys AP with DHCP, WEP, and MAC on. Also at my university the same is enabled on different brand AP's and if works flawlessly. I never liked netgear anything.