MultiIE 3.0 Released

[Janak Parekh]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.multiie.info/' target='_blank'>http://www.multiie.info/</a><br /><br /></div>MultiIE, one of the first "multiple-IE-window" enhancements for PIE, has been updated today to version 3.0. It includes a whole slew of features, including WM2003 support, URL building, Google search, tabs, and more.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/parekh-20031020-MultiIE.gif" /><br /><br />This screenshot is from <a href="http://217.160.215.102/index.php?itemid=1577">Arne's post on the subject</a>, because the MultiIE page itself is still being updated. He reports that the download links are up, though.

[Jeff Rutledge]

Does anyone know how registration is supposed to work on this version? I tried loading it overtop version 2.0 (which was registered) and it wasn't registered.

I then uninstalled it and installed just 3.0 and tried my codes -- no go.

I've sent an email as requested on the site, but it seems odd that you can't just update a registered version. Unless they're going to ask for an upgrade fee (hope not).

[bdeli]

I've sent an email as requested on the site, but it seems odd that you can't just update a registered version. Unless they're going to ask for an upgrade fee (hope not).

If you scroll down on the multiIE page you have this:

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For a limited time only, a free upgrade is available for all existing MultiIE users.
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& this

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To upgrade send your userid/license code:
Request upgrade via email
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Seems like the user/serail no registration is different from the previous version.

[PPCRules]

I gave it a whirl. I hadn't used other recent versions, but it seemed a bit sluggish. But for all the features it adds, that might be the price that needs to be paid.

I would like to note, for others sake, that I had problems when I first installed it while I still had an expired trial of Spb Pocket Plus installed. I removed PocketPlus (the whole thing, as it was expired; might have worked to just disable the Internet Explorer feature), and reinstalled MultiIE, and it works.

[Jeff Rutledge]

I've sent an email as requested on the site, but it seems odd that you can't just update a registered version. Unless they're going to ask for an upgrade fee (hope not).

If you scroll down on the multiIE page you have this:

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For a limited time only, a free upgrade is available for all existing MultiIE users.
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& this

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To upgrade send your userid/license code:
Request upgrade via email
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Seems like the user/serail no registration is different from the previous version.

Thanks bdeli. I saw the "send us the userid/licence code", but must have missed the "for a limited time..." lines.

My info is off...

[Arne Hess]

I gave it a whirl. I hadn't used other recent versions, but it seemed a bit sluggish. But for all the features it adds, that might be the price that needs to be paid.

I would like to note, for others sake, that I had problems when I first installed it while I still had an expired trial of Spb Pocket Plus installed. I removed PocketPlus (the whole thing, as it was expired; might have worked to just disable the Internet Explorer feature), and reinstalled MultiIE, and it works.
It's the best you can add to your PIE!!! I love it since version 1 and it's really worth the money!
If you are a Spb Pocket Plus User you don't need to uninstall it at all but it's enough if you disable the PIE feature of Pocket Plus!

[powder2000]

I've used it on my eg-800 ppc2000 with 3.8 " screen and in full screen mode, it is marvelous. I might have to purchase it, very good investment to maximize screen real estate.

[arebelspy]

The rotation thing seems to make my right half of the screen just black.. then you can use stretch image to fit, but then its all distorted..

Did anyone that has nyditot 3.22 get the rotate on the fly thing working well?

I had to disable the pie part of pocket plus as well.

-arebelspy

[thanos255]

WOW!!!

What improvments...I have been cursing and hating surfing at home the wireless network because of no NetFront for 2003...but with all the improvements with MultiIE..who needs it!!!

And a FREE UPGRADE for 2003!!!!

WOW....

did I say I was happy yet? :)

Thanks
Thanos

[Eitel]

Ok, it says that with Nyditot, you don't need to soft reset to change it landscape, but everytime I hit the rotate screen option, Nyditot wants me to soft reset. What I'm doing wrong? :?:

[Mexico]

Ok, it says that with Nyditot, you don't need to soft reset to change it landscape, but everytime I hit the rotate screen option, Nyditot wants me to soft reset. What I'm doing wrong? :?:

What I found out is that you have to be already in "Virtual Display Mode" in order for the screen rotation to work without resetting... :|

Has anybody else found anything different?

[Eitel]

I found the same, but then it defeats the "No soft reset requiered", since you do need to soft reset to load the Nyditot driver.

[jt3]

I found the same, but then it defeats the "No soft reset requiered", since you do need to soft reset to load the Nyditot driver.
That's true... you need to reset, once. After that, though, you're able to switch back and forth at will. However, while you can rotate the screen, I seem to find that you're still stuck at the portrait DIMENSIONS. In other words, if your portrait settings are 320x240, rotating the screen does NOT switch it to 240x320. It simply fits the portrait screen into the lanscape display, leaving a rather large black box on the right hand side.

A soft-reset will allow a true 240x320 landscape display, but again, it seems to be incorrect that you can really go to a true landscape mode without a soft-reset.

Has anyone else found out a way to go from the 320x240 standard display to a 240x320 landscape view in IE (with or without MultiIE), without the need for a soft-reset?

[24va]

Has anyone gotten their upgrade code yet? I sent an email request this morning and have not received anything yet. Just wondering. I do have 15 days for them to send it I suppose.

[nGage]

I found the same, but then it defeats the "No soft reset requiered", since you do need to soft reset to load the Nyditot driver.

The instruction in Multi-IE 3.0 states that for the recommended settings for nyditot, select the "Resize Desktop" profile. This setting sets your resolution to 320x320 and ticks the "Resize Desktop" option. Once you have done this you can switch between portrait and landscape without a soft reset and without having to pan the virtual screen around on the physical. It works pretty much as advertised, but WM2003 and WisBar Advance are not 100% OK with this setup. For instance, despite the resize desktop flag being set, I still find that the bluetooth icon on the bottom right-hand of the today screen is not visible unless I uncheck the resize desktop flag and then pan over to it and WisBar Advance is just not happy with switching from Portrait to landscape at all.

I'd really like to see the next iteration of the O/S support portrait/landscape switching natively. In fact if CE could do like familiar linux/OPIE and have a setting for each app for whether to run it portrait or landscape, I would be a very happy camper.

Anyway, despite it being an imperfect setup, I think the combination of NYDITOT and Multi-IE 3.0 is worth the pain of one soft-reset to turn it all on at the start of a browsing session. Landscape and full screen is just a huge improvement on browsing with PIE. I tried Thunderhawk and hated the appalling scroll speed.

Sorry to have prattled on so much.

[ppcsurfr]

Ok, it says that with Nyditot, you don't need to soft reset to change it landscape, but everytime I hit the rotate screen option, Nyditot wants me to soft reset. What I'm doing wrong? :?:

The rotate feature was designed to take advantage of the 320x320 resize desktop setting of NVD... not any other size.

There is a Resize Desktop profile which is set at 320x320... this is what you need.

Mabuhay! ~ Carlo

[Palmguy]

4150 users take caution...I've had two hard resets with the demo. Program looks awesome, but I'm not gonna try to use this again on my 4150 without confirmation that it is working right.

[Eitel]

Ok, it says that with Nyditot, you don't need to soft reset to change it landscape, but everytime I hit the rotate screen option, Nyditot wants me to soft reset. What I'm doing wrong? :?:

The rotate feature was designed to take advantage of the 320x320 resize desktop setting of NVD... not any other size.

There is a Resize Desktop profile which is set at 320x320... this is what you need.

Mabuhay! ~ Carlo

I know. The point is that according to what MultiIE says, you shouldn't need to soft reset to get this profile, but Nyditot still wants to soft reset, so it doesn't work as advertised.

[sfcrisp]

4150 users take caution...I've had two hard resets with the demo. Program looks awesome, but I'm not gonna try to use this again on my 4150 without confirmation that it is working right.

I've had the same problem on the Toshiba e755 with WMM2003. Two hard resets and I knew it was more than just the normal flukes of the Toshiba.

[dnacpil]

I installed it on my H5455 (WM2K3) and it's a sluggish plus it hangs after loading 2-3 web pages (in invidual pages).

I registered my copy for $14.95 and I think I shouldn't have bought it!!

Any suggestions as to why it hangs on my H5455? Please advise.

[Jeff Rutledge]

Has anyone gotten their upgrade code yet? I sent an email request this morning and have not received anything yet. Just wondering. I do have 15 days for them to send it I suppose.

I got mine last night. I submitted my info very shortly after I posted my first reply to this thread.

[24va]

Got mine last nite too :lol:

I surf a lot and really missed this program when I switched to WM2003-glad it has been updated!

[PPCRules]

Any suggestions as to why it hangs on my H5455? Please advise.
I don't have an H5455, but I had hangs/lockups (requiring soft-resets) when I had another PIE enhancement program installed (as previously posted). Since removing that application I have not had any system lockups.

The web page has been changed overnight, with a '...d51' download file as opposed to '...d50' previously. However, I tried it and everything during the install still says '...d50', as does the 'about' box. So I don't know if the file really is any different. Maybe it would help with your problem, though.

Pretty frustrating to not have any support page from the vendor, where one could find out if others are having problems, or postings of known problems, or an explanation of '...d51' changes. It would be hard to pay for this in 12 days without any support services from the developer.

The main problem I'm having now is spontaneously disappearing pages. After I open a few onscreen pages, some already open ones vanish. No consistent trigger noticed. Also, occasionally when I use 'open as new window', it opens on top of the current one instead. But it does add a lot of useful stuff. I've become accustomed to the sluggishness already. But again, it would be hard to justify paying for this if these problems continue.

I'm still hoping for an ftxPBrowser release for WM2003.

[PPCRules]

PIEPlus (v1.1) supporting WM2003 is now available.

I tried it.

I'm still hoping for an ftxPBrowser release for WM2003.

[mv]

I found the same, but then it defeats the "No soft reset requiered", since you do need to soft reset to load the Nyditot driver.

A soft-reset will allow a true 240x320 landscape display, but again, it seems to be incorrect that you can really go to a true landscape mode without a soft-reset.

Has anyone else found out a way to go from the 320x240 standard display to a 240x320 landscape view in IE (with or without MultiIE), without the need for a soft-reset?

I think that it can´t be done... so these "no reseting needed" it´s not accurate, it´s valid only in 320x320, but that left part of the screen in black. It´s just an OS limitation I think... but then again, soft reseting is not that bad.

[Southway]

Hi,

You *can* rotate the screen from 240x320 to 320x240 without a soft reset, here is some information about this:

You need to have NVD loaded and set the screen resolution to 320x320. (which byitself would mean you need to PAN around to get to all parts of the screen). You can now set the "Resize Desktop" option, which will set the OS desktop size to the appropriate 240x320 or 320x240 (note: the desktop size is independant from the screen resolution just like on a desktop PC).

Now, here are the caveats:

1. The desktop area is supported by Windows CE, but Microsoft haven't asked developers to use it on the Pocket PC platform, instead they documented fixed window sizes and positions. Consequently, a lot of applications won't resize correctly to the desktop size. (One nasty one is that start menu toolbar). NVD tries to resize apps to the desktop, and does a pretty good job of that, but it just can't handle all cases.

2. There is a bug with NVD that when you first load it and reset the PDA the "Resize Desktop" option is shown as selected, but it isn't really. You need to unselect and re-select the "Resize Desktop" option.

So, then you can rotate. Since most apps have problems, what I tend to do it only load NVD when I know I'll be web surfing, and pretty much just use PIE.

It's not ideal, but if you follow the above you can get a feeel for how a rotation-on-the-fly is like, and if you think it is handy (which I do or I wouldn't have tried to build it in), then email Microsoft and device manufacturers to get them to support this properly!

The idea of a support forum for MultiIE is a very good one, I will see what I can do about that.

Cheers,
Peter

[maximus]

Tap, open in new window ?

[UCCOFFEE]

how come this doesnt have the option to allow open new windows in a single click? just like Ftxp Browser~

I think ftxp Browser is better in pocketpc2002.... But it doesnt support WM2003.... the only choice left is mulitiIE.....

[Southway]

There was a few requests for this feature, but overall there did not seem to be much demand for it (since you can open new windows using the context menu).

I also had a UI problem. If this mode is on then you need to be able to show this to the user (if you pick up someone elses PDA running MultiIE you should be able to tell if "open-new-window" is on or off. FTXPBrowser does this nicely by allocating a button on the menu bar, however Pocket IE already used the space on the menu bar.

This is already in the feature request db, so I will review it for a future release.

Cheers,
Peter