View Full Version : No, Really! It Was Fun Back Then!
Kati Compton
10-18-2003, 03:00 PM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.egmmag.com/article2/0,4364,1338767,00.asp' target='_blank'>http://www.egmmag.com/article2/0,43...,1338767,00.asp</a><br /><br /></div>Enough of our readers are old enough to remember playing countless hours of Space Invaders, and later, games like the original Donkey Kong. Heck, I <i>still</i> like those games. But are they fun for kids spoiled by the latest and greatest 128-bit systems, with 3D games rendered using all those polygons and colors?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.egmmag.com">Electronic Gaming Monthly</a> performed a little experiment to see if a selection of gaming classics, including Space Invaders, Pong, and Donkey Kong, could hold interest of six modern kids between the ages of 10 and 13.<br /><br />The results? <a href="http://www.egmmag.com/article2/0,4364,1338767,00.asp">Well, see for yourself.</a>
Ed Hansberry
10-18-2003, 03:05 PM
This is hysterical! I had the football game. I love this exchange.
EGM: Which team are you playing?
Kirk: The red lines.
EGM: Did you score?
Kirk: I bumped into a dot.:rotfl:
Eitel
10-18-2003, 03:09 PM
Hey, I was playing Space Invaders and Asteroids last night on my Atari. :)
Bearjaw
10-18-2003, 03:11 PM
That was a riot! I remeber the days of Donky Kong tournements at my friends house. They lasted for hours! I be the kids would have loved Joust! That game was awesome! I still want to ride an ostrich every time I see one!!! LOL
Duncan
10-18-2003, 03:13 PM
There I am feeling all old because my birthday's round the corner - and you go and publish this to make me feel worse...! Thanks Kati...! :cry:
(I still find Pac-Man hard to play you know...)
bjornkeizers
10-18-2003, 03:15 PM
God almighty, save us from the new generation! :D
Note: Everything written here was actually said by these kids. Really. The only change we made was to remove the more gratuitous usages of the word "gay".
We were way more civilized way back then.
Tim: My line is so beating the heck out of your stupid line. Fear my pink line. You have no chance. I am the undisputed lord of virtual tennis. [Misses ball] Whoops.
[talking about mario]
EGM: Who's that chick Mario is rescuing up there?
Brian: It's Princess Peach.
Kirk: It's a hooker.
Niko: She looks cut in half.
Tim: Oh wow—she's one of those pole dancers.
Oh god, I'm going to need a stiff drink after reading this :D Absolutely hilarious.
I wrote these for my iPaq LOL. Let me know if you want a copy :0)
Dom
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XmanHP548
10-18-2003, 03:31 PM
I don't know about y'all but if these are typical American kids, then I think USA is going downhill pretty fast. They have to curse to express themselves in a national publication and they appear pretty spoiled and snotty as well :?
With future leadership like this, I'd give the good 'ol U.S.A. about 50 more years tops.
PS I could kick their pathetic tails around on any of those video games, :devilboy:
SandersP
10-18-2003, 03:42 PM
lol, yeah.
but then again maybe EGM somehow prod the kids to be a bit histerical instead of giving them sense of technical perspective.
The article is funny.
I wonder what video games looks like 10-20 years from now.
that_kid
10-18-2003, 03:45 PM
Wow the things that kids today say. I still have my atari 2600 and all my games. I even found roms for the games that i own and I play them all the time on my ipaq. Remember Pitfall??? I also had that football game, and remember that magnetic football game that vibrated 8O, those were the days.
I still have my atari 2600 and all my games. I even found roms for the games that i own and I play them all the time on my ipaq
Been playin' Phoenix on a 54 inch TV lol. Still have my woodie VCS. Some of those games are just amazing ... still! Like the 2 player games best. The cartridges were about £20 which would be more like £70 now with inflation!
Kati Compton
10-18-2003, 04:15 PM
I don't know about y'all but if these are typical American kids, then I think USA is going downhill pretty fast. They have to curse to express themselves in a national publication and they appear pretty spoiled and snotty as well :?
Heh. Actually, I think most of them are pretty smart unless the reporter completely re-wrote what they were saying. My guess is that they didn't actually want to play the games at all "Come on, dad! I want to play Mega Evil Robots 3!", and are expressing that by being snide.
Frankly, apart from their taste in video games, they seem a lot like kids I knew when *I* was a kid. But let's be honest - if all you'd ever known was PS, PS/2, Dreamcast, XBox, etc - would you be content to play Pong?
szamot
10-18-2003, 04:17 PM
Tim: My line is so beating the heck out of your stupid line. Fear my pink line. You have no chance. I am the undisputed lord of virtual tennis. [Misses ball] Whoops.
That's a lie everyone knows that I am the undisputed champion of virtual tennis and double tennis and duck hunt too. Those are the games that I had on my console. Hell, to this day I remember playing these games on a color TV not just black and white one, man I am old.....
On the other hand what's the deal with Splinter Cell, Rainbow Six and alike. Crawling through the bush for hours to fire a single shot, that's as much fun as watching pain dry. Halo was very good, but very repetitive. I like my Pong, I like fuzzy nostalgia, perhaps that’s why I don’t own a game console.
Pick up and play ;0) I used to work at Psygnosis (remember Lemmings ?). Games these days need a college degree to understand.
jmarkevich
10-18-2003, 04:44 PM
It was quite funny, but did they actually have fun? There was a lot of complaining about graphics but they didn't admit to enjoying it.
Almost, with Mario Bros.
I played a real, live VCS 2600 a few years back. Boring colors & graphics, for sure. The games were tough because they were so FAST (interesting observation on how computers have advanced). But compare that to NES - that was one awesome machine. SMB is still a very fun and addictive game...
bjornkeizers
10-18-2003, 05:01 PM
I'm so old, I played games on an MSX. In those days, games came on casettes! [you know, like music! Way back when!]
God I'm an old geezer. :roll:
I grew up with stuff like Duke Nukem 3d, Redneck Rampage, Shadow Warrior.. anyone remember those besides me? Those were cool, weren't they? I still have them, and play them regularly. Classics.
that_kid
10-18-2003, 05:26 PM
games came on casettes! [you know, like music! Way back when!]
I remember programs and games on tapes. I also remembe the frustartion when part of the tape got messed up. Ahh the musical tones of data.....
dean_shan
10-18-2003, 05:35 PM
That was so staged. When my EGM came in the mail I read that article. Yes it was funny but it was so staged. How could some never hear of or play Tetris. There is a new Tetris game coming out every year or so for every system. I can understand them not playing Q-Bert, but who hasn't played Donkey Kong or Tetris.
yawanag
10-18-2003, 06:07 PM
I don't know about y'all but if these are typical American kids, then I think USA is going downhill pretty fast. They have to curse to express themselves in a national publication and they appear pretty spoiled and snotty as well :?
With future leadership like this, I'd give the good 'ol U.S.A. about 50 more years tops.
PS I could kick their pathetic tails around on any of those video games, :devilboy:
I second it. I'll never get too old to play Pac Man. It is and always will be my all time favorite. These kids are also void of imagination.
Duncan
10-18-2003, 06:11 PM
That was so staged. When my EGM came in the mail I read that article. Yes it was funny but it was so staged. How could some never hear of or play Tetris. There is a new Tetris game coming out every year or so for every system. I can understand them not playing Q-Bert, but who hasn't played Donkey Kong or Tetris.
Ah - but they HAVE heard of Tetris! As a mobile phone game.
GoldKey
10-18-2003, 06:13 PM
I'm so old, I played games on an MSX. In those days, games came on casettes! [you know, like music! Way back when!]
I have a device from my Atari that worked the same way. You pluged in a really big cartridge that had a cord you plugged into the headphone jack of a cassette player and loaded the games from cassette. Of course you could copy all of the games and trade too. :wink: I think the device is called a supercharger and I remember they had a space game that was pretty cool.
Steven Cedrone
10-18-2003, 06:34 PM
This is hysterical! I had the football game. I love this exchange.
EGM: Which team are you playing?
Kirk: The red lines.
EGM: Did you score?
Kirk: I bumped into a dot.:rotfl:
You need LedHead for Pocket PC's... (http://www.peterhirschberg.com/handheld/ledhead/pocketpc_screenshots.htm) :wink:
http://www.peterhirschberg.com/handheld/ledhead/pocketpcscreenshots/ss_fb2.jpg
Steve
buckyg
10-18-2003, 06:48 PM
Funny, I was just thinking about some of the good ol' games back in the day... (Man, I'm feeling and sounding old)
I was remembering the fun of the old LED football games. Ledhead for PPC? No way, that's just too cool, will go check that out! Thanks!
cooldw57
10-18-2003, 07:08 PM
the article is funny, althought it DOES make me feel very *old*. but then again, stupid kids &(*#&$_
Enderet
10-18-2003, 09:59 PM
I grew up with stuff like Duke Nukem 3d, Redneck Rampage, Shadow Warrior.. anyone remember those besides me? Those were cool, weren't they? I still have them, and play them regularly. Classics.
Those games arent that old. I remember playing those when they were first being released on my PackardBell 133mhz P1(Redneck Rampage and Shadow Warrior). Duke I didnt get into until later on, but I remember playing these games maybe around 93-95. Definetely not that long ago, I was about 8-10 when I was playing Redneck Rampage.
To answer your question, yeah they were good games. I am currently looking for games that are from around that time. If anybody has any old games that they want to do away with, I am definetely interested in buying them.
Anything from around 1993-2000. The thing is I always found those games to be real good, and unfortunately, after my 133mhz P1 I didnt upgrade until sometime in 2002. Therefore I missed out on many great games that emerged around those times. Besides that I want games for my tablet PC which is somewhat poor in the hardware department(1Ghz, 768 mb ram, 16mb vid).
rudolph
10-19-2003, 12:55 AM
Ok, I'm not _that_ old (20) but I remember the first computer my dad brought home... a monochrome 8086 like 4mhz or whatever. The games I used to play were on 5 1/4" disks that you had to put in the computer when it was booting in order to play.
My dad always though the computer had enough games for me so never had nintendo or any other console system , but the games I played on PC were Digger (I think the highest level I ever made it to is like level 4), Police Quest (my favourite... I had no clue what to do in the game but I loved it. It took me like 4 years after I got it to actually finish it), Space Quest, Q-bird, Alley Cat, King Kong... umm and some other really old ones I can't remember.
Now that I think about it I had a C64, but that isn't really a console system and this other.... thing. I don't remember what it's called but it was like a huge black keyboard that you hook up to the TV and you put cartridges in it and played games. Can't remember what it's called tho.
I also remember getting hint books for Police Quest and Space Quest. You had to use a special marker on the lines in the book in order to reveal a hint if you were stuck. Other hintbooks had a little cardbord piece with a red transparent window in it and you had to put it over a line in the book to read the hint... it was fun hehe. Now you can just get walkthroughs online.
Later, after upgrading my computer a couple of times I played games on 3 1/2" disks... like Duke Nukem (the 3d scroller one), Masters Of Orion (it was on like 13 floppies... a good game tho-- like civilization), lemmings... and a lot more. Then came wolfenstine, blakestone, and the like.
Nowadays I don't play much videogames. I really only like counterstrike (which I havn't played in a long while) and GTA4/VC. I like how you have the freedom to walk around in the virtual city and do whatever you can think of... I think that's why I liked Quest games back then.
..what good times those were
bradolson
10-19-2003, 01:11 AM
we had an old commodore 64. i remember games like lode runner and automan. those were the days, lol.
Brad
Kati Compton
10-19-2003, 01:48 AM
we had an old commodore 64. i remember games like lode runner and automan. those were the days, lol.
Last weekend I was at a C64 convention out here near Chicago. :) Impressed people by playing C64 games on my Axim.
My first computer was an Atari ST. For it's time it was great. We had some super games like Elite and Defenders of the Realm.
I also remember a space game called Captain Blood. Never did get the hang of that one.
The other cool thing with the ST was it's GEM operating system. This was by Xerox and was either licensed or copied by Apple for the Mac.
Janak Parekh
10-19-2003, 03:14 AM
The other cool thing with the ST was it's GEM operating system. This was by Xerox and was either licensed or copied by Apple for the Mac.
Close, but not quite. :)
GEM was by Digital Research. (http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6148/gem.html) It had its antecedents in Xerox's work, just like Apple's work did. One of the most famous lawsuits in the 80s was Apple suing Digital Research over the look & feel of the UI, especially the Trash Can. GEM, BTW, also had its presence on the PC for years, especially because of Ventura Publisher, which used it as a graphical desktop long before MS Windows was useable.
And then there was GEOS, which started on the C64, and GeoWorks, which was its PC offspring. For those of you who remember GEOS, here's an interesting piece of trivia. One of the disks that came with GEOS on the C64 was double-sided, and had a program on the reverse side. Can you identify what that program was? I'll give you a big hint: it was an online service, and had nothing to do with GEOS -- I believe it was included due to a bundling deal with Commodore...
--janak
szamot
10-19-2003, 03:17 AM
we had an old commodore 64. i remember games like lode runner and automan. those were the days, lol.
Last weekend I was at a C64 convention out here near Chicago. :) Impressed people by playing C64 games on my Axim.
look at you rich people. I was new in this country some 20 years ago so all I could afford was Commodore VIC20, Yeah baby. Sitting in front of the TV for hours trying to type Peek and Poke this and that goto here and go there and a lot of if - then statements only to come up with some lame game in some 600 lines of code. Then I would leave the VIC on for like a week because I did not have the casette player to save the program onto. Those were the days! Donkey Kong and Pole Position as well as Pike's Peek were my all time favorites.
Janak Parekh
10-19-2003, 03:19 AM
Sitting in front of the TV for hours trying to type Peek and Poke this and that goto here and go there and a lot of if - then statements only to come up with some lame game in some 600 lines of code.
Ah yes, not only did we write our own games, I remember copying code out of magazines like Compute! and BYTE by hand and running the result. :lol:
BYTE actually was ahead of its time -- there was a barcode scanner you could buy so you could scan a bitmap that would automatically type the code in much faster, as opposed to having to copy 10 pages of BASIC... I never had the money for that, though, as a kid. :cry:
--janak
delfuhd
10-19-2003, 03:20 AM
I'm happy to say that I grew up playing Atari & Commodore, and all that. I remember when the NES cost 100 bucks, and my parents made me and my two siblings save up allllll our money when it first came out, and we finally got one! It was amazing...
I don't play video games anymore because I think it's lame that when you play a game like Madden football, you have to press all these different buttons to catch the ball or something. I remember NES Play Action football, where 'A' was block, 'B' was dive, and then you had the Directions. That was it.
Video games now are realistic in their viewing sense but not in their playing sense. If someone made a body suit wherein you could go into a room and play Counter-Strike or Unreal Tournament with special goggles and stuff, actually moving around as your guy, that's probably when I'll start playing video games again.
And I kind of agree that I was surprised that those little kids swore n stuff.. It just seems so odd, the way they were talking...
delfuhd
10-19-2003, 03:22 AM
Oh, and I remember HATING E.T. for Atari, I never had any idea what to do and it always seemed so friggin' hard. I have no idea why I played it more than once...
The very first game I ever played was a table top pong arcade game. I'm pretty sure it was early 70's and I was like 6. My mom sat me down at it while she was doing an errand at work (she worked at the bar as a bartender). Oh yes, I was hooked from that point on.
I was lucky in that my parents would always buy is the latest toys. We were not rich, I just had cool parents like that. I don't think they ever understood exactly what these video games were all about going through all of the systems until we brought home Phantasy Star for the 8 bit Sega. My dad locked himself in the bedroom and stayed up all weekend to finish the game. It was funny for us kids to have a dad do that. After that, my parents kind of understood the addiction.
I'm not going to say todays games are not as good. Let's be honest, while Donkey Kong, Pacman and Asteroids will always me near and dear to my heart, there are better games out today. These kids have grown up with rpg games that have multiple endings and branching story lines, fighting games with special moves, reversals, combo's and "fatalities" and war games that can be used to train troops for combat strategies. All of this and don't even get started with online gaming that is available today. Don't get me wrong, I love older games. Then again, I am an older gamer and can appreciate what I had at that time.
The article was pretty funny and it was a really great idea. I am glad someone did it even if some of what was said was very selective to get the laughs.
daverph
10-19-2003, 06:10 AM
I don't play video games anymore because I think it's lame that when you play a game like Madden football, you have to press all these different buttons to catch the ball or something.
My favorite was the Bally Arcade console from 78-79. The football game cost us many grade points in college. We'd take a break from cramming for exams - and hours later still be playing. The controllers were awesome and it came with 4 of them. It was expensive though,-$300 back then, with cartridges that cost about $20..
The thing still works 25 yrs later - and I'd play that football game over Madden too - mostly cause my feeble brain can't handle the new games.
bjornkeizers
10-19-2003, 12:21 PM
Those games arent that old.
Duke Nukem is from late 1995/early 1996. The others are slightly younger then that. Still, 7 years is a long long time when it comes to computing. Back then we had a 133 mhz pc and called it "top-of-the-line" nowadays, my Ipaq has a faster processer then that, and my current PC is 10 times faster, has 80 times more memory, 16 times the ram.. and this one is old! Just take a look at what you can buy these days, we're making huge leaps every year. And games as well. Compare Half Life 1 to Half Life 2 - Incredible leap! 7 years is a long time when it comes to PC's, and we're not done yet. I can only imagine the games I'll be playing in 7 years - or the ones my kids will be playing 8O
I don't play video games anymore because I think it's lame that when you play a game like Madden football, you have to press all these different buttons to catch the ball or something. I remember NES Play Action football, where 'A' was block, 'B' was dive, and then you had the Directions. That was it.
On the ST there was a game called TV Sports Football. It was actually rather good.
Didn't take long to figure out that you scored every trime from a fake field goal, so we had to ban that play from serious competitions.
delfuhd
10-19-2003, 01:43 PM
I remember growing up with Duke Nukem in 2D. Then my dad came home one day from work, brought out his ThinkPad, and said "Look at the new game I got. Duke Nukem, 3D!" My bro. and I stared 8O in awe at this wonderful game that my dad was now playing.. Ha, I remember that we could only play if we did like a chore or something, and then we could play it in 15 minute blocks. It was a huge thing, and Duke 3D is still a huge thing for me.
ah, yes, and did you see? Good old Frenchy updated his page. (http://membres.lycos.fr/ppcsoft/) My hopes still are up...
Turns out he was "on holiday" for a couple of months. heh...
bjornkeizers
10-19-2003, 03:33 PM
Then my dad came home one day from work, brought out his ThinkPad, and said "Look at the new game I got. Duke Nukem, 3D!"
Lol. I'd freak out if mine so much as touches a PC, let alone starts playing Duke Nukem 3D 8O
Ha, I remember that we could only play if we did like a chore or something, and then we could play it in 15 minute blocks.
Ahh psychological blackmail. :D Those were the days my friend! Kids these days.. they'd most likely kneecap their parents to play it [I know I would]
ah, yes, and did you see? Good old Frenchy updated his page. My hopes still are up...
Way back when that was first "announced" people didn't even bother discussing whether or not it's a hoax - that much was obvious. Someone analysed the shots and came up with some vague tech speak to prove they were fake [something to do with resolution in the shots] Anyway. Unless Dan East is doing a part, I wouldn't bet on it any time soon.
I'd love a port of DN3D [or a working version for windows XP, damnit!!] but it's just not happening any time soon.
Janak Parekh
10-19-2003, 05:50 PM
Those games arent that old.
Duke Nukem is from late 1995/early 1996. The others are slightly younger then that. Still, 7 years is a long long time when it comes to computing.
No, it's not! :D First of all, Duke Nukem started as a primitive 2D game in 1991 (http://www.gamespot.com/features/vgs/universal/duke_hist/p2_01.html). In fact, it was called "Duke Nukum" then. I played it on my 286 -- total blast (and easy game at that).
Moreover, I'm surprised no one has mentioned "Wolfenstein 3D". That was the predecessor to both Duke Nukem 3D and DOOM. The true grandaddy of the genre. This was back when we had 16-33MHz machines, darn it. ;)
--janak
bjornkeizers
10-19-2003, 09:00 PM
No, it's not! :D First of all, Duke Nukem started as a primitive 2D game in 1991. In fact, it was called "Duke Nukum" then. I played it on my 286 -- total blast (and easy game at that).
Hmm yes, the 2D dukes - never got into those. I own a retail copy of Duke Nukem 3D, and you get DN 1 and DN 2 full versions with it! Maybe I should try running those... but they're all old DOS so probably wont work on my PC :-(
If you like those, I bet you've played some Commander Keen as well! We had those at my school, and played them on some really old PC's - the ones that came with a huge red/brown/black monitor and 16 other colors :-)
Moreover, I'm surprised no one has mentioned "Wolfenstein 3D". That was the predecessor to both Duke Nukem 3D and DOOM. The true grandaddy of the genre. This was back when we had 16-33MHz machines, darn it. ;)
Yup. It's a classic. I'm not old enough to have played it when it was just released, but I did play it a couple years back on our new PC.. pretty fun game. I also own it on Game Boy!
Perry Reed
10-19-2003, 10:28 PM
I have a device from my Atari that worked the same way. You pluged in a really big cartridge that had a cord you plugged into the headphone jack of a cassette player and loaded the games from cassette. Of course you could copy all of the games and trade too. :wink: I think the device is called a supercharger and I remember they had a space game that was pretty cool.
Yep, the StarPath SuperCharger, aka the Arcadia SuperCharger (the company changed names). It added twice the RAM of standard Atari games, and also allowed for multi-level games that could be loaded level-by-level as you played.
The space game you mentioned is probably Phaser Patrol, which was included with the SuperCharger. And it is indeed a darn good game.
And with that I'm going to try to stay out of this classic games thread... for a change. :)
ux4484
10-19-2003, 10:47 PM
you folks are making me feel soooOOOooo old.
Janak,
I had DR's GEM desktop.....What a great overlay it was for the time......MS didn't even get close until Win 3.1
Back OT:
I was quite an avid gamer in the late 70's early 80's......until my bike was stolen while I was sneaking a game of Galaga while running an errand for my Mom.........video games (in any form) have never had the same flavor for me since (the only things more important to me than video games then, were my bike and Bass guitar).
Jonathon Watkins
10-19-2003, 11:04 PM
Pick up and play ;0) I used to work at Psygnosis (remember Lemmings ?). Games these days need a college degree to understand.
Darn right! Wonderfull game - all the way from Dundee as I recall. I seem to remember playing the first Lemmings on a 286, just after my folks upgraded from an 8086. We owned a Pong machine and a Spectrum 16 when they came out too.
Oh the good old days. :mrgreen:
Janak Parekh
10-20-2003, 12:07 AM
you folks are making me feel soooOOOooo old.
Me too... although not as much as you. ;)
I had DR's GEM desktop.....What a great overlay it was for the time......MS didn't even get close until Win 3.1
It's doubtful they got "close" with Win 3.1 either, at least in the simplicity and cleanliness of the user interface. I liked GEM a lot too.
If you like those, I bet you've played some Commander Keen as well! We had those at my school, and played them on some really old PC's - the ones that came with a huge red/brown/black monitor and 16 other colors
Yup, I did play Commander Keen quite a bit. It was harder than Duke Nukum, but I finished a couple of them. Great games too. But don't diss 16 colors -- I lived with monochrome when I first started...
--janak
Steven Cedrone
10-20-2003, 01:12 AM
Man, I used to love playing Commande Keen!!!
Steve
Hx4700
10-20-2003, 05:38 AM
And no one has mentioned Atari Star Raiders - for the 400/800.
That game was so far ahead of its time (front and read viewscreens, with zoom, different weapons, speeds, etc) I've always wondered how the writers of that game came up with the effects around the same time as something like Astorids.
Ron...
aroma
10-20-2003, 12:53 PM
I can't believe there's been no mention of "Jill of the Jungle". That was a great game. Wasn't it one of the first games to really take advantage of that new fangled add-on card for your PC.... called a "SoundBlaster"? ;) One of my ALL TIME favorite games was "Mail Order Monsters".... awwww... C64 days. And I remember the HOURS put into my first console game, "Legend of Zelda". Now THAT was a great game. None of the Zeldas, with their fancy graphics and all, can ever compare to the original!
- Aaron
Janak Parekh
10-20-2003, 03:53 PM
I can't believe there's been no mention of "Jill of the Jungle". That was a great game. Wasn't it one of the first games to really take advantage of that new fangled add-on card for your PC.... called a "SoundBlaster"? ;)
Hahaha. Someone else remembers this game! :) The sound selection was utterly bizarre, though. Remember "Yeeeaaaaaa!"? ;)
The only problem I had with Jill is that I found it too easy. But the graphics were fairly impressive.
--janak
Perry Reed
10-20-2003, 04:42 PM
And no one has mentioned Atari Star Raiders - for the 400/800.
That game was so far ahead of its time (front and read viewscreens, with zoom, different weapons, speeds, etc) I've always wondered how the writers of that game came up with the effects around the same time as something like Astorids.
Ron...
That is my all-time favorite video game. For any platform, any year. Still loads and loads of fun, and I still play it regularly.
Jhokur2k
10-20-2003, 05:08 PM
One of the disks that came with GEOS on the C64 was double-sided, and had a program on the reverse side. Can you identify what that program was? I'll give you a big hint: it was an online service, and had nothing to do with GEOS -- I believe it was included due to a bundling deal with Commodore...
--janak
That would have been the almighty Q-Link... *sigh* I remember using GEOS on the C64, and remembering how weird it was, compared to line after line of basic... and adding the toggle switch to the 1541 drive to make it a secondary drive... ahhh those were the days. LOAD *,8,1 :D
Janak Parekh
10-20-2003, 05:18 PM
That would have been the almighty Q-Link... *sigh* I remember using GEOS on the C64, and remembering how weird it was, compared to line after line of basic... and adding the toggle switch to the 1541 drive to make it a secondary drive... ahhh those were the days.
Bing! We have a winner! :D
For what it's worth Q-Link or QuantumLink was the predecessor to AOL. Yes, that AOL. Moreover, the early versions of AOL on PCs (v1.0 and 1.5) were made available not on Windows, but rather GeoWorks, or more precisely, a small runtime. (If you had bought GeoWorks you'd get a copy of AOL as one of the "productivity" applets.)
--janak
Kati Compton
10-20-2003, 05:24 PM
I can't believe there's been no mention of "Jill of the Jungle". That was a great game. Wasn't it one of the first games to really take advantage of that new fangled add-on card for your PC.... called a "SoundBlaster"? ;)
Hahaha. Someone else remembers this game! :) The sound selection was utterly bizarre, though. Remember "Yeeeaaaaaa!"? ;)
I played it a little at some point, but I don't really remember much about it.
I'd love a port of DN3D [or a working version for windows XP, damnit!!] but it's just not happening any time soon.
Try running it in a VM. Other than that, your only recourse is to put together an old machine for old games. You might find this (http://vogons.zetafleet.com/) site interesting.
bjornkeizers
10-20-2003, 05:48 PM
Try running it in a VM.
I have absolutely no experience with a VM. But for DN3D, I'm willing to give it a try :-)
Other than that, your only recourse is to put together an old machine for old games. You might find this (http://vogons.zetafleet.com/) site interesting.
Hey! Great link! I'll see if I can find some relevant info.
Kati Compton
10-20-2003, 06:08 PM
Also try VDMSound (https://sourceforge.net/projects/vdmsound/) for playing old games. Worked for me and Day of the Tentacle and one or two of the Monkey Islands.
PetiteFlower
10-20-2003, 07:06 PM
I really miss the old Ghostbusters game for the Apple IIe or c, I forget which. That was a fun game :) I used to play dig dug too, and Oregon Trail....man I'd really like to find that game again and see if I'd be any better at it now!
Those kids didn't seem too bratty, kids at that age swear whenever their parents aren't around, makes them feel deviant :) They were pretty well behaved if you ask me, compared to a lot of the 12 year olds I hear about....and they did seem to understand the concept of "there wasn't anything else". How they could not have understood Tetris though, that I don't get, that was (and still is!) the only game I could play with my mom, surely one of their parents must have it around....
I think they should have had a rating thing though, cause you really couldn't tell whether they liked it or not from the conversation snippits.
bjornkeizers
10-21-2003, 11:35 AM
Also try VDMSound (https://sourceforge.net/projects/vdmsound/) for playing old games. Worked for me and Day of the Tentacle and one or two of the Monkey Islands.
I did. Thanks to VOGONS I found VDMsound, as well as a little proggie called DukeRoch, which allows me to play in high res [sort of]
Now I have Duke Nukem 3D with sound and in high res running on win XP. woohoo! The only little problem is, when I run it in high res, my screen seems to shift slightly, so I lose some pixels on the left and bottom, and they appear on the right and top. So when I play in 640x480, I have the health/ammo counters at the top of the screen, and I have to reduce the size of the game window for it to fit - but It's still worth it!
Abba Zabba
10-22-2003, 06:21 AM
I remember a few yeas ago for my freshman year of college. A few of my buddies and I brough our "old" systmes back to school for our second semester. Man did we play those systems alot..needless to say we all payed for the lack of class time :lol:
DrtyBlvd
10-24-2003, 01:34 PM
I really miss the old Ghostbusters game for the Apple IIe or c, I forget which. That was a fun game :)
I loved that one too - also Choplifter (Was it Broederbund?)
No one's mentioned the 'packaging' - remember how good the Atari stuff was? Pitfall, Raiders of the lost Ark? I thought I was Indy just carrying it home.
With retrospect, carrying it home was the best bit of it! :lol:
Just about to see what I can sell a Colecovision for actually - including the all time great for the first psuedo 3d scroller, Zaxxon! Man I hated those towers. Still do actually. :D
fixerdude
10-24-2003, 03:02 PM
Wow! I am old. I remember rigging the punch card reader to "play" simple music. In those days a PC is tough to come by so the only game play was at work. :oops:
tomtiguy
10-24-2003, 08:40 PM
I'm turing 20 in December, but I was still raised on Atari. I always wanted Nintendo, but we just had this old Atari setup.
I'm mad that my parents sold it without my knowing. They thought I'd never use it again. Heck, I'd still play it.
As fond as I am of the Atari games, I think it is that we're blinded by fuzzy, warm nostalgia.
Why didn't they have the kids play 007 and Popeye?
DrtyBlvd
10-24-2003, 08:51 PM
While we're mentioning this, can anyone point me in the right direction to be able to use one of the emulators available on the PPC?
Which one's the best? Is there one that 'does it all' ?
I'd love to be able to play some of the old stuff, but can't figure out how?
I have absolutely no experience with a VM. But for DN3D, I'm willing to give it a try :-)
http://download3.vmware.com/software/wkst/VMware-workstation-4.0.5-6030.exe
Register at vmware.com for a 30day trial key. It's incredibly simple to use, and very very useful. :)
While we're mentioning this, can anyone point me in the right direction to be able to use one of the emulators available on the PPC?
Which one's the best? Is there one that 'does it all' ?
I'd love to be able to play some of the old stuff, but can't figure out how?
There's nothing that does it all. What exactly do you want to play?
DrtyBlvd
10-26-2003, 12:32 AM
There's nothing that does it all.
Ah. So there's one for each 'variety' ? Say, Atari / Arcade / C64?
]What exactly do you want to play?
I'd like to play arcade style games again - like, say Donkey Kong for example; I'd love to play almost any of the original Game/Watch combinations that Nintendo originally made - remember them? More than anything I would love to play 'Scramble' - my all time favourite. PPC landscape mode of course! :D
I guess I'd like the ability to play whatever is available, to be honest - Do the emulators work with one another on PC or must you remain faithful so to speak?
TIA!
You won't have problems installing multiple emulators. For NES, use PocketNester (http://jetech.org/). There's a C64 emu around somewhere as well ... google for it and you'll find it. :)
DrtyBlvd
10-26-2003, 02:21 AM
Cheers Quintin :D
maximus
10-27-2003, 01:57 AM
Anyone still have the old DOS-based game of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms ? you know, the black-n-white turn based domination-of-china game ? That game was a blast. I remember skipping classes just to play that game....
http://www.abandonware-fr.com/ - lotsa old DOS games.
maximus
10-27-2003, 04:50 AM
broken URL ?
Sorry ... http://www.abandonware-france.org is the site.
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