Pre-Order HP iPAQ 4155

[Jason Dunn]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://estore.shopplex.com/app/storefront.aspx?cat_id=162&inv_id=30929135006593&modid=30214092059015&aid=5' target='_blank'>http://estore.shopplex.com/app/stor...092059015&aid=5</a><br /><br /></div>Want to be one of the first to get your hands on the forthcoming HP iPAQ 4155? Tek 'n Toys is taking pre-orders, but of course since HP hasn't released the device they don't know what the price will do. Think of it as a waiting list. :wink:<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/img230929142312220.jpg" /><br /><br />"The h4155 will have a styling reminiscent of HP`s popular h1900 series. And, surprisingly, it is almost exactly the same size. The h4155 is 4.4 inches long, 2.8 inches wide, and .53 inches thick (113mm by 71mm by 13mm}, dimensions so close to the h1900 series` that it`s possible the difference are only rounding errors. At 4.4 ounces (125g} is also only a hair heavier. If these dimensions turn out to be correct, then HP will have essentially managed to squeeze Wi-Fi and Bluetooth into the h1900 series without adding appreciably to the size or weight. Please purchase this item as normal to have a pre-released item ordered for you. All orders will be fufilled in order they where recieved. Your credit card will not be debited until the item is in our wearhouse. If you are ordering this item alone use COD option at check out."

[Pocket PC Dubai]

WOW 8O I’m in love with this form factor!
IMO there is no need for CF slot since it has already (Wifi + BT) wireless capabilities built-in. It will be great to add an SD memory + Camera on this device.

[ignar]

Any estimated day of arrival?

[JonnoB]

WOW 8O I’m in love with this form factor!
IMO there is no need for CF slot since it has already (Wifi + BT) wireless capabilities built-in. It will be great to add an SD memory + Camera on this device.

Admittedly, I use the CF slot in my 221x device more for WiFi than anything else, but I do also use a 1GB CF card for movies, a CF camera, a CF GPS when on the road, and a LAN 10/100 and modem CF card on occassion. What HP needs to do is figure out a way to put WiFi into the 221x and add a flip-cover ala Jornada 56x. What I don't want to do is take out my nearly permanent 256SD card just to add some sort of external peripheral like PDA camera.

[tonyv]

"wearhouse"???

Well, I suppose it kind of makes sense for a company that sells PDAs

;-)

[T-Will]

This looks like a great little device! I used a 1910 for a long time and loved the size of it, but it was a little sluggish, so I switched to the 2200. I'm tempted to get one of these 4100's, but I really want to wait until we start seeing higher rez screens on Pocket PC's...

[jnunn]

Why did HP switch from the cool button layout of the 1900 series? Perhaps to save costs?

[thanos255]

Anyone know if it is 128mb?
I just may find a replacement for a 5555 if it is 128mb

Thanks
Thanos

[T-Will]

From the looks of it, I would think that this new button layout may be better for games.

[RobertCF]

Good grief, yet another ugly device from HP. They have essentially abandoned the original Compaq design for this? I have coasters with more appeal. At least with the original design you could put a sleeve on their and get your functionality in a myriad of ways. But no sleeve AND no CF? How retarded. This goes to make me more satisfied I moved off my iPaq 3630 (which was and is a wonderful device) to the Axim. The X5 doesn't look nearly as nice as my 3630, but at least it has the features (and then some) of the newer HP devices at less cost.

HP--the SciFi Channel of PDAs (start out with a good thing and then destroy it after a season or two).

[Janak Parekh]

Good grief, yet another ugly device from HP. They have essentially abandoned the original Compaq design for this? I have coasters with more appeal. At least with the original design you could put a sleeve on their and get your functionality in a myriad of ways.
What!? If you want a sleeve-compatible device, get a 5xxx unit. If you want a slimmer solution, get a 1xxx, 2xxx or 4xxx. The 2xxx have CF and SD. The Axims are also good -- this is a just great solution for somebody who wants a tiny unit with integrated wireless. Believe it or not, everyone doesn't have the same requirements...

BTW, jnunn, the button layout is a personal thing. I really hated the 1910's dpad -- found it unuseable with my thumb. I prefer this one immensely. :)

--janak

[JonnoB]

But no sleeve AND no CF? How retarded. This goes to make me more satisfied I moved off my iPaq 3630 (which was and is a wonderful device) to the Axim. The X5 doesn't look nearly as nice as my 3630, but at least it has the features (and then some) of the newer HP devices at less cost.


The Axim does cost less and I give Kudos for Dell pushing the price envelope in this competitive space. HP, however isn't that bad. There is the 221x devices which does include CF and has integrated wireless (BT) built-in. The size of the device is much smaller than the current crop of Axim devices. I believe HP will end up with a wide variety of devices to meet multiple price points and functionality requirements.

[BrotherDave]

Did the hide-able keyboard rumor ever pan out?

[JonnoB]

Did the hide-able keyboard rumor ever pan out?

Unfortunately, it did not... the keyboard sticks out on the 43xx just like it does on the Hitachi. Too bad, a hiding keyboard would have made it a small (short) device worth my consideration.

[jnunn]

By the way, I do not understand why anyone would pre-order a PDA these days. After the yellow screen debacle I certainly would want to see a new model first hand before I put down any cash.

[Jason Dunn]

By the way, I do not understand why anyone would pre-order a PDA these days. After the yellow screen debacle I certainly would want to see a new model first hand before I put down any cash.

You don't have to put down any cash to pre-order. You're not charged until the product ships, so that means you have time to read reviews, etc.

[huangzhinong]

By the way, I do not understand why anyone would pre-order a PDA these days. After the yellow screen debacle I certainly would want to see a new model first hand before I put down any cash.

That's really funny. T3 is real yellow, but every Palmer like it and enjoy it.Why PPC users always have so many complaints?

[T-Will]

By the way, I do not understand why anyone would pre-order a PDA these days. After the yellow screen debacle I certainly would want to see a new model first hand before I put down any cash.

That's really funny. T3 is real yellow, but every Palmer like it and enjoy it.Why PPC users always have so many complaints?

I think Pocket PC'ers are just a little more sophisticated and have higher standards than Palmers... ;)

[jlp]

If the 43xx is just a 1940 with Wi-Fi, why don't they just call it 1950 or something.

By creating a line of same products (close enough it apears) but with completely different number they will confuse people!!!

[felixdd]

Good grief, yet another ugly device from HP. They have essentially abandoned the original Compaq design for this? I have coasters with more appeal.

Actually, I find the 1910 and 2215 quite sleek. Although the 2215 actually looks sort of chubby -- it's quite a small device still. The 19xx devices has "smooth" painted all over them (in more ways than one...especially when you drop it due to lack of grips :lol: )

At least with the original design you could put a sleeve on their and get your functionality in a myriad of ways. But no sleeve AND no CF? How retarded.

Well nowadays, if a device has dual slots, the CF is usually reserved for clunkier cards like GPS, WiFi, and VGA cards -- all the while SD is usedfor storage. I'll dare a guess that WiFi use far outweighs the other two. So they decided to do away with the CF altogether and include WiFi instead, and leave the SD for storage. Honestly, I'd much rather have a laptop to do presentations and have speaker notes on my PPC while controlling the slides through Bluetooth/WiFi, then holding a PPC that's connected to a projector via CF and clunky cables.

Or do they have solutions that allow for slides to be "beamed" to the projector via bluetooth or WiFi? That will be sweet! 8)

[roberto_torres]

By the way, I do not understand why anyone would pre-order a PDA these days. After the yellow screen debacle I certainly would want to see a new model first hand before I put down any cash.

That's really funny. T3 is real yellow, but every Palmer like it and enjoy it.Why PPC users always have so many complaints?

I think Pocket PC'ers are just a little more sophisticated and have higher standards than Palmers... ;)

The T3 screen is as white as the older Ipaq 1910 there is no yellow! I wich HP included the same screen as the Tungstens instead of the yellowish one.

[jnunn]

It is cool that the customer is only charged when product is shipped which allows for order cancellations. I recall, however, that the 1940 yellow screen became an issue only after customers complained in the forums. Only one of the PPC reviews of the 1940 that I read before the forums took off mentioned the yellow screen and most reviews lauded the device without mentioning the screen defect.

In other words, I will only purchase a device after I inspect it first hand regardless of what the reviewers say. Our PPC reviews are nice in that they give some detail and first hand accounts to the specifications sheet but they need to do more to be truly effective. If they applied some of the basic tools of competitive analysis then the readers would gain value. For instance, setting a basis for functionality and grading across the basis per device would score the functionality of the device across the market offering. That would be good for the OEMs too: if HP is always coming in second place for screen due to Sony or now third place due to Palm then that will lower the HP total score according to the normalization weight and give a less favorable analysis. Hence, HP would complain to MS that in order for it to raise its score and improve its reviews it needs a higher resolution screen, or a more reliable ActiveSync, or more form factor freedom, etc.

That sort of analysis entails some work but it adds value to the review and gives more value to the reader. Frankly, the basis and the grading rules are a good amount of work to set up but after you have done it then analyzing subsequent devices is easy and more scientific.

[jlp]

Well nowadays, if a device has dual slots, the CF is usually reserved for clunkier cards like GPS, WiFi, and VGA cards -- all the while SD is usedfor storage.

I beg to differ, with CF prices half to a third of SD cards at the same capacity and up to 12 times the total capacity, CF still beats SD and aleays will. It's just simple math: with 2-4 times more internal volume, CF will always be ahead of the game.

New devices still come out with CF slots coz manufacturers understand these definite advantages!!

[Pocket PC Dubai]

Well nowadays, if a device has dual slots, the CF is usually reserved for clunkier cards like GPS, WiFi, and VGA cards -- all the while SD is usedfor storage.

I beg to differ, with CF prices half to a third of SD cards at the same capacity and up to 12 times the total capacity, CF still beats SD and aleays will. It's just simple math: with 2-4 times more internal volume, CF will always be ahead of the game.

New devices still come out with CF slots coz manufacturers understand these definite advantages!!

Well that’s obvious especially from what we heared of high capacity CF cards with lower prices. Seems to me CF cards will continue to play in the market. I was more convinced when I found out that ASUS MyPal A620BT (http://www.brighthand.com/article/ASUS_MyPal_A620BT_Available_in_US?site=PPC) comes only with a CompactFlash Type II slot instead of an SD slot.

[starbot]

the only reason i upgraded from 3630 to 3955 is because the screen was cracked, (and a 3955 was just 30$ more on ebay than a screen repair) and honestly i dont think i'll upgrade for a while-maybe high res screens, slidin keyboard, revolutionary new CE

3670 still has same screen res, similar os (if upgraded to 2002) and same memory (or does the 3700 have same memory) as the 4100 series, just minus the wifi and sd -is that all that can change in 3years?? i dont like palms but look at they're evolution from B/W 2mb device to sweet devices like the treo 600 or T3