Will spam finally die?

[beq]

From slashdot: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/23/business/23CND-SPAM.html

Wish I live in CA :)

[PetiteFlower]

Not going to do a lick of good. You can't sue someone who A) doesn't live in this country and B) you can't find.

[Jacob]

Unfortunately PetiiteFlower is right.

Althought 20% of the computing industry may be in California it's easy enough to have spam originate from outside the state.

I guess it's a start though - every drop taken out of the bucket is good.

[Jerry Raia]

Now why would anyone want to end all that good info about getting viagra?

[DimensionZero]

:D SpamAssassin is my friend.

[Jacob]

:D SpamAssassin is my friend.

SpamAssassin makes friends wherever he goes. :mrgreen:

[beq]

SA v2.60 was just released :mrgreen: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=spamassassin-announce&m=106428638216020
Bayes DB changes, Razor v1 dropped...


Back to the spam law, besides inducing other states to follow, maybe this will affect even non-Californians due to CA's sheer size?"California represents up to 20 percent of the e-mail that is sent or received,'' said J. Trevor Hughes, the executive director, of the Network Advertising Initiative, a group of technology companies that send e-mail for marketers. "Instead of trying to segregate the California e-mail addresses, many of our members are going to make the California standard the lowest common denominator.That's kinda hard to believe though -- slashdot mentions CA is the world's 5th largest economy :eek: Anyways, if you're out of state and you spammed someone in CA, you're still liable to get sued, is this right? Heck, nowadays cross-border international-jurisdiction lawsuits seem to happen more and more also (so just 'cuz you're a spamming company in another country, you might not be safe)?

[Jolard]

Washington State (where I live) has had a law like this for some time now, and I can guarantee it has done nothing to stem the flow of spam.

The problem is that these are all state level laws, so only effect in state transactions. In Washington that means I have to be able to track down if the Spam was sent from Washington or from out of state, and as most of you know, that can be difficult and often not worth the effort, especially considering the volume of junk I get.

Even a U.S. level law would probably not help all that much, as the spammers would simply move overseas.

We need a one world government, only solution :wink:

[maximus]

Even a U.S. level law would probably not help all that much, as the spammers would simply move overseas.

Or someone living in CA, and outsourced the 'spam' activity to a friend abroad :D

We need a one world government, only solution :wink:

We are the Borg, resistance is futile. :D :D

[PetiteFlower]

The only way spam will end is if it ceases to become profitable, and government can't do that. Technology might, if it can stop spam from being seen/delivered. But laws aren't going to make a bit of difference, money is more powerful.

[famousdavis]

This is my solution (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16986&)to spam. So far, only one piece of spam has arrived in my inbox, and that's only because I neglected to direct my site's "webmaster" email account to the Delete file.

Spam won't go away. You have to deal with it aggressively to get rid of all of it from your Inbox, or you have to buy software that filters spam with less-than-perfect results.

[DimensionZero]

Old news to some, but here's a article from Reuters talking about how spammers are taking a more direct approach to fighting RBL (Realtime Black Lists)...

Anti-Spam Web Pages Shut Down by Attacks (http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=technologyNews&storyID=3510971)

[beq]

Man, it looks like the federal CAN-SPAM proposal will override California's own excellent antispam law (which has already started seriously suing spammers), as well as head off the antispam laws being hatched at all the other states before they're even released. All the advertisers/marketers backing this CAN-SPAM bill :(

http://www.emailaddresses.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=146474#post146474

[beq]

Here's one way to stop spammers...

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/11/22/1069027383562.html

Man I love it (the Aussies apparently too) :rock on dude!:
We know Californians really hate spam :rotfl:

[beq]

Here's the CNet take:

http://news.com.com/2100-1024-5110883.html

[beq]

So CAN-SPAM will really pass, and that's the end of tougher state laws? Is this bad (or good) news overall, I wonder...

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5110622.html