Pocket PC Overtakes Palm in Australia

[Ed Hansberry]

<a href="http://www.arnnet.com.au/index.php?id=642181845&fp=2&fpid=1">http://www.arnnet.com.au/index.php?id=642181845&fp=2&fpid=1</a><br /><br />Looks like the Pocket PC has garnered 52.1% of marketshare down under, surpassing Palm's 46.6%. The balance was split between devices running Linux or Windows CE without the Pocket PC user interface.<br /><br />“Palm is still a strong vendor but its operating system slipped to number two because of the number of other players that have chosen to run on the Pocket PC OS. Acer offers a choice but Dell, HP and Toshiba have all gone with Pocket PC.” <br /><br />Converged device share grew from 6.7% of total mobile devices to 15.9%. Right now, Symbian has just over 80% of that market. I suspect we'll see that change over the next 18 months as devices like the Treo 600 and Smartphone 2003 devices start shipping. Throw some shrimp on the barbie for me, ok? :D

[madbart]

http://www.arnnet.com.au/index.php?id=642181845&fp=2&fpid=1

Throw some shrimp on the barbie for me, ok? :D

Ed, this is a bit of a movie/tv beatup we actually prefer a nice 2 inch thick porterhouse steak!

As for the Palm OS i can't remember the last time i sold one of their devices

[kiwi]

ah,

good to see...

looks like the Aussies are good for something :wink: :wink:

[clinte]

Some of the other key findings of Managing In Asia – Part III include:

· Almost three out of four respondents (73%) own a Nokia cell phone, followed by Motorola (22%) and Sony Ericsson (16%).

· Tastes in mobile phones differ by age. Younger respondents are more likely to have a Siemens phone, while more senior respondents, prefer the Motorola brand.

· Three out of four respondents carry a mobile phone, while 27% have an enhanced phone with an Internet link, and one in five have a PDA that can send and receive data wirelessly.

· PDAs with Bluetooth-type connectivity function are twice as popular as standard models.

· The number of people with combined camera phones averaged 10%. It was most popular with respondents in the Philippines, where 25% have them.

· Respondents polled in Japan revealed that as many people have Internet linked phones as standard ones. South Koreans also show a preference for net-linked phones.

http://www.feer.com/breaking_news/030918.html

[rhmorrison]

· Almost three out of four respondents (73%) own a Nokia cell phone, followed by Motorola (22%) and Sony Ericsson (16%).
Hmmm...

73 % 22 % 16 %
That makes up for 111 % of the market share - WOW !!!

[kiwi]

Some of the other key findings of Managing In Asia – Part III include:


· PDAs with Bluetooth-type connectivity function are twice as popular as standard models.



hmm.. thats nice to see, the push for BT. Last year I was very frustrated with Nokia.. they kept putting FM Radios into cell phones rather then BT.

I decided to stick my old trusty T39m for longer and now theres a few more SonyEricsson phones out with BT, and more "other" brands coming with them. Really makes syncing contacts and data connection easier than IrDa on a PDA.

[rapster]

Um, Ed...it's spelled Australia.

[Ed Hansberry]

Um, Ed...it's spelled Australia. :oops:

I was spelling it like we Southerners pronounce it. :wink:

I usually spell check my text but often forget to do that to the subject.

[Shadowcat]

· Almost three out of four respondents (73%) own a Nokia cell phone, followed by Motorola (22%) and Sony Ericsson (16%).
Hmmm...

73 % 22 % 16 %
That makes up for 111 % of the market share - WOW !!!

That does seem awfully weird. However, the high penetrance of cell phones in Asia may have something to do with it. I lived in Hong Kong for 4 years and they say everyone owns a cell phone. That may as well be true because everyone from adults to students to elderly people to security guards. In fact I believe a survey found that there are more cell phones than people in Hong Kong and Hong Kong's population is over 7 million (I believe). That brings me to my point: many people have more than one phone. For a long time there were 2 or 3 old cell phones sitting in my home until we disposed of them somehow (I think we sold them).

I can only imagine it would be much crazier in Japan 8).

[blusparkles]

:rock on dude!:

[maximus]

That does seem awfully weird. However, the high penetrance of cell phones in Asia may have something to do with it. I lived in Hong Kong for 4 years and they say everyone owns a cell phone. That may as well be true because everyone from adults to students to elderly people to security guards. In fact I believe a survey found that there are more cell phones than people in Hong Kong and Hong Kong's population is over 7 million (I believe). That brings me to my point: many people have more than one phone. For a long time there were 2 or 3 old cell phones sitting in my home until we disposed of them somehow (I think we sold them). I can only imagine it would be much crazier in Japan 8).

Ah yes. In some country in asia (phillipines, indonesia, thailand, etc.) it is easier to get a cell phone than a land line phone. The land line phone operators are mostly state-owned, and state-owned companies in these countries are well known to be non-friendly and non-service-oriented companies. I registered a land line phone 10 days ago, and it is not yet ready by today.

On the other hand, getting a cell phone is as simple as buying the handset and the SIM card in the morning, and start using it in the afternoon.

[bazza]

looks like the Aussies are good for something


:werenotworthy:

:wink: :wink:

Off-topic - Looks like Bill (Webb Ellis) will be staying on our shores for a little longer - stay tuned!!! Let's see:

Aust=2
NZ/SA=1

:D

[Stephen Beesley]

:rock on dude!:

Aussie Aussie Aussie oy oy oy :onfire:

Come on one of us had to say it!

Goldtee

PS: Kiwi - roll on the World Cup

[clinte]

Some of the other key findings of Managing In Asia – Part III include:


· PDAs with Bluetooth-type connectivity function are twice as popular as standard models.



hmm.. thats nice to see, the push for BT. Last year I was very frustrated with Nokia.. they kept putting FM Radios into cell phones rather then BT.

I decided to stick my old trusty T39m for longer and now theres a few more SonyEricsson phones out with BT, and more "other" brands coming with them. Really makes syncing contacts and data connection easier than IrDa on a PDA.

True. Nokia Bluetooth inplantation was a big dissapointment. There new 3650 model seems to work much better. I've read that there will be a lot of new nokia models coming this year.

I also found this: "Finnish telecomms solutions provider Nokia announced on Monday (8 September) the launch of its first automotive communication solution using Bluetooth SIM Access Profile (SAP) technology. The solution would allow a device to access a SIM card in a compatible mobile phone over a wireless link using Bluetooth technology, and use that SIM card's identification and communications functions. It could then read and write data from and to the SIM card inserted in the other device as if the SIM was connected via cable. The solution is to be presented on 29-30 October 2003 in Nice, France."
http://www.wirelessweek.com/index.asp?layout=articlePrint&articleID=NEe0909133.4iw

Motorola: Michael Tatelman, vice president of the MPx200 product "Next year, you will see us add Bluetooth support," and "We have a lot of activity " most of it projected activity on Bluetooth " at Motorola," he added.

From

"The Moto handset also will not support Bluetooth because it is not supported in the current release of Windows Mobile. Instead the phone has two PC-style connections " a mini USB connector and an IrDA infrared port. Microsoft has downplayed Bluetooth in its desktop products, focusing its energies on 802.11."

more
http://www.ebnonline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=14800018

1. Bluetooth is supported in the current Windows Mobile Platform (not in the smartphone 2002 which is used with the mot-msft phone here...the new upcoming smartphone 2003 "windows mobile for smartphone" will support Bluetooth)
2. MSFT didn't downplayed Bluetooth in it's desktop products. And there isn't one model which includes 802.11 imho. Why use 802.11 with your desktop (keyboard/mouse)? MSFT does have 802.11(b/g) networking gear but that's something different imho

Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop for Bluetooth.
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=013

MSMMobiles on this: "Just for the record: this smartphone runs outdated Smartphone 2002 software, has no built-in Bluetooth, no built-in camera and has slow processor (the same as in SPV and SPV E100)."
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/1340.html

Exactly!