Ipaq 1910: Should I get one if I'm upgrading from J565?

[bjornkeizers]

Hi all,

Over the past couple weeks, I've been looking at some shiny new kit to replace my aging [bought it 1st november 2002] HP Jornada 565.

The paint's wearing thin, the screen's got some dust on it.. and it's just getting on a bit in years. So I've been looking into replacing it with something new and shiny.

I bought it with two years extra warranty [god knows why!] but I still have warrenty until late 2005 :D So, I should still be able to fetch a good price for it second hand.

Anyhoo, all I'm using it for is Ebook reading, document viewing, some simple not taking and the occasional game.

I"m looking at the Ipaq 1910 [it's the 1915 in Europe] and at its handsome price tag: just a few cents short of 200 euro. Now what I want to know is: is the 1910/1915 a good buy? Does it have any major flaws, like the Ipaq button press thing on the 3630 I used to have?

Any thoughts greatly appreciated.

[Jorgen]

Because of the pricedrop on the 1910 here in the UK to £200 (and after reading about the yellow'ish screen on the 1940), I bought the 1910 - and I love it! It is not as fast as my hp-568, but more than fast enough for whatever I have used it for. Note that it comes totally naked so you have to buy a case for it.

I generally run it underclocked (using Turbo Tray) to 100MHz to save battery - not that I really need to, but the 568 has after all a 1450mAh while the 1910 uses 900 mAh.

Jorgen

[bjornkeizers]

Thank you!

Yes, I read it comes without a cover. I'll definitely have to pick up a case for it - Right now, I'm using the same Game Boy Color case that I used way back when for my Ipaq 3630 [I have 3 of them for all my PDA's :D , yeah, I'm a cheap and practical guy.]

So, how much slower is it then the 568? Is it noticably slower or just about equal with a 206 mhz arm? I'd still like to be able to play a game of Quake on it :D

As for battery life.. I get about oh... 3.5 hours or so on a full charge with my 565 with backlight on lowest setting. Will the 1910 do at least that on a full charge?

[mv]

Why don´t you get the 1930? it´s faster than the 1910, has SDIO, wm2003, and it cost exactly the same. (But maybe in Europe could be more expensive than the 1910, but not that much)

[Chris Spera]

This is a personal opinion, but I would pass on the 1910 unless you've got some serious budget constraints.

The 1940/45 or the 1930/35 will provide the same form factor, but better features, for the same, or lower cost, respectively.

In the long run, either of those will be a better deal than the 1910, unless you find one so dirt cheap you can't pass it up...


Kind Regards,


Christopher Spera

[bjornkeizers]

I've been looking at every unit from 1910 up to 2210.

A 1910 costs 199,95 euro
The next model is the 1930 - which costs 399

That's twice as much!

A 1940 will cost me 499 and a 2210 costs 599

See my point? 90% of the time I use my PPC for reading books in MS reader. The other 10% is playing the occasional game of Bejewelled, viewing pictures, the occasional note taking, and sometimes, viewing a flash movie or document. I do not need things like an SDIO compatible slot.. I don't need the 400 mhz processor.. so why spend *at least* twice as much for these unneeded features? The money I save on buying a 1910 instead of a 1930 can be used for other more needed things: memory and a nice Proporta aluminium case 8) I can probably sell my Jornada 565 for a handsome price [125 euro at least] so I only pay 75 for a brand new device!

What I want to know is: is it any good for my needs and does it have any major problems?

[Chris Spera]

Ahhh! Thanks for the clarification... I see where you're going now.

The 1910 is a great Pocket PC. Its very well suited for what you want to do. I'd go ahead and pick it up.


Kind Regards,


Christopher Spera

[Jorgen]

>So, how much slower is it then the 568?

I think that a 400 MHz X-scale is a little bit faster than the hp-568. However, this does not mean that the 1910 is half the speed of the 568 since the data bus is something like 100 MHz. I am running my 1910 at 100 MHz, not only to save battery, but also to see how fast a CPU one actually needs. Windows Media Player 8 runs WMA and MP3 files without problems at that speed. I sometimes wonder if Turbo Tray actually does underclock the CPU!

I assume that you do know that the SD-slot only supports memory cards and not SDIO pheripherals (modems, Wi-fi ...).

Jorgen

[bjornkeizers]

I am running my 1910 at 100 MHz, not only to save battery, but also to see how fast a CPU one actually needs.


How much do you save on battery power that way? I don't do a lot of processor-intensive stuff like Quake, so if I could save some of that power.. is it dangerous to under clock it?


I assume that you do know that the SD-slot only supports memory cards and not SDIO pheripherals (modems, Wi-fi ...).


Yes, I am aware that the SD slot is not an SDIO slot. It's not a big issue, as I'm not one of those people who absolutely, positively, have to watch a streamed version of Spiderman via wireless LAN while on the porcelain throne :mrgreen: I've never had any need for expansions like wireless or GPS or whatnot.

OK. I've made a decision. My bank account should be showing some healthy numbers in a day or two. I'll have a 1910 by the end of the week! 8)

[zippy2003]

When I first ventured into iPAQ territory about three weeks ago I bought I H1910, and was very pleased with it. The screen was superb, and it seemed much speedier and reliable than a Tosh E330 I used to have.

However, having noticed that WM2003 won't go on the H1910, and that it didn't support SDIO I decided I wanted the H1930..... even managed to blag my supplier into taking the old H1910 back at full price. Nice.

The screen isn't as good on the H1930 as the 1910.... a slight pink tinge to it. In my opinion tho' the 1930 seems quicker and just feels that little bit better with WM2003.

One thing I'd point out is that with the 1910 you get a set of ear phones for the small 2.5m jack, whereas with the 1930 you get an adapter to make the socket a normal size.

[Phil333]

For those with the 1930/1940 series, how is the screen compared to the 1910. I hear it's not as good, but how significant is it? Is it only when you are at a weird angle?

[Jolard]

There is a difference in screen from 1910 to 1940, but in my experience it really isn't a big deal. The yellowing on my 1940 is only pronounced if I tip the top of the unit a ways away from me. In general use I have not had a problem at all.

That said, I have heard that there may be differences in 1940's, that some are worse than others. So if you get one that is bad it might be worth returning and getting a different one.

For me though, it is wonderful. I was comparing the 1940 to the toshiba e355, and the 1940 had a much better, and much brighter screen, so it was an easy choice. Compared to the difference between the 1940 and the e355, the 1940 and 1910 difference is negligable.