HP h1935 iPAQ To Sell For $199 After $50 Rebate

[Ed Hansberry]

<a href="http://news.com.com/2100-1041_3-5067859.html?tag=fd_top">http://news.com.com/2100-1041_3-5067859.html?tag=fd_top</a><br /><br />HP is ready to release the h1935 iPAQ. Externally, it is identical to the h1940 that has been for sale since June. Just like its $299 brother, it has an SDIO slot, Windows Mobile 2003 for Pocket PC and the new Samsung processor. The processor is running at 203MHz though rather than 266MHz as it does in the 1940 series. The 1935 also lacks bluetooth and has a smaller FlashROM. The 1940 has a 14MB ROM file store whereas the 1935 doesn't have one. Both have 56MB of usable RAM. The other difference is the 1940 has a 1 year warranty and the 1930 has a 90 day warranty. I personally never recommend buying an extended warranty, but in the case of an electronic device costing $200 that only comes with a 90 day warranty, I might reconsider that opinion.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/ipaqh1900.gif" /><br /><br />So, how does the 1930 and 1940 series compare to the X-Scale based 1910 that came out late last year? "That continues a trend by HP to go with Samsung's chip in its low-priced models. In addition to its lower cost, HP executives have said the Samsung processor outperforms Intel's XScale on a megahertz-to-megahertz basis. HP still uses XScale chips in its higher-end models. Dayan said the h1945 with the 266MHz Samsung chip offers up to 87 percent higher performance than the h1910. "It (has) higher performance even with the 203MHz (Samsung) chip," he said, although some of the performance gain also is attributable to the operating system."<br /><br />This is going to be a great device. I've held off recommending the new 2003 devices for a while now waiting for this one. Many of the people I know simply don't need bluetooth and shouldn't pay for it. If anyone has been waiting for an ultra-small, powerful and sexy PDA without bluetooth, this is it!

[Timothy Rapson]

WOW! Almost irresistable.

I never thought I would worry about this, but how is HP going to make any money off a sale price this low? This is going to be a runaway best seller. And to think, HP originally expected to drop this model when the 2200 came out. It may wind up the best seller in the PPC world at this price.

This really kicks the butt of the Palm OS and Linux PDA models. Nothing even close to this value, and Dell, HP, and Toshiba are now all selling fairly full-featured models at this price point.

[egads]

You would think HP would throw in some type of cheap case. :?

I would buy a case for it anyways, but it would be nice to have one to use till I buy one.

[GoldKey]

If they could get them sold side by side with the Zire, might pick into those sales numbers by getting people to pay a bit more to get a LOT more.

[Kevin Remhof]

I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to know what the screen on the 193x looks like. Is it yellow like th 194x line? If it's white, this could be a great PDA for me.

[Duncan]

The other difference is the 1940 has a 1 year warranty and the 1930 has a 90 day warranty.

Blimey! That's legal in the US?!!! 8O

[Ed Hansberry]

The other difference is the 1940 has a 1 year warranty and the 1930 has a 90 day warranty.

Blimey! That's legal in the US?!!! 8O
You don't have to have any warranty. You mean the UK government mandates customer service policies of UK companies? Blimey! 8O

[UberGeek]

I was just thinking that without the $50 MIR this isn't that great a deal.
When the MIR ends I think the bluetooth and the extra RAM of the 194x are worth the extra $50
This is not a knock on the 1935 as much as an indicator of how great a deal the 1945 really is.

If priced at $199 before MIR then it would be an awesome deal.

[xendula]

The other difference is the 1940 has a 1 year warranty and the 1930 has a 90 day warranty.
Blimey! That's legal in the US?!!! 8O
You don't have to have any warranty. You mean the UK government mandates customer service policies of UK companies? Blimey! 8O

Yep! The German government even madates a two year warranty on all electronics sold in Germany! :mrgreen:

[Ed Hansberry]

Yep! The German government even madates a two year warranty on all electronics sold in Germany! :mrgreen:And you pay for it too. :D

[SandersP]

Yep! The German government even madates a two year warranty on all electronics sold in Germany! :mrgreen:
That sounds like a subsidy for warranty claimer/insurance company to me.

I think that's a bad idea. I wouldn't want to pay for the manufacturing cost of 2 years warranty for EVERYTHING. I rather have the warranty clearly stated and spelled out, and let me judge if that is adequate instead of forcing me to pay for 2 years on everything. If I need longer warranty, I am sure I will purchase extended warranty. (not that I ever purchase that for simple electronic)

[Dr. Grabow]

Slightly off topic, but you do tend to get what you pay for. I returned a 1945 Ipaq, which I had bought because the form factor was so attractive, because the screen was awful. It was installed crooked so that the active area was not parallel with the bezel, and it had two glaring pixel defects, one of which was a bright red dot on any dark background. The yellow cast to the screen wasn't very attractive either.

So you can buy junk for $200, or step up to perhaps the 2215 for an extra $100. Easy decision for me, but to each his own ...

[Small Town Man]

Yep! The German government even madates a two year warranty on all electronics sold in Germany! :mrgreen:And you pay for it too. :D

Not only electronics. There is a two year warranty for nearly everything.
And yes, we have to pay for it.
iPaq 1940 USA SRP $299
iPaq 1940 GER SRP €499
1€ = $1.10

[dean_shan]

iPaq 1940 USA SRP $299
iPaq 1940 GER SRP €499
1€ = $1.10

Yikes that's a lot of dinero.

[T-Will]

Isn't BIG government great! :wink:

[DavidHorn]

In the UK every item be it a car or Pocket PC has to have a one year warranty, mimimum. Also, I'm fairly certain they're not allowed to change the price to accomodate this.

I've never imagined life without a one year warranty. However, IMHO, my electronics stuff is engineered to break precisely one month out of warranty, but even then you usually get a replacement if you throw a big enough strop. Or banned from the store. (Thank you, PC World in Oldham.)

[T-Will]

In the UK every item be it a car or Pocket PC has to have a one year warranty, mimimum. Also, I'm fairly certain they're not allowed to change the price to accomodate this.

I've never imagined life without a one year warranty. However, IMHO, my electronics stuff is engineered to break precisely one month out of warranty, but even then you usually get a replacement if you throw a big enough strop. Or banned from the store. (Thank you, PC World in Oldham.)

Strop=?

I'm sure the manufacturers just take this forced warranty period into account when setting prices for items.

[xendula]

Actually, electronics have always been way more expensive in Germany than in the US (the 1945 and the 2210 cost the same, BTW, which is insane). We had a one year warranty up to last year, and prices have not gone up because of that - they have always been way up there! :?

[Duncan]

In the EU a two year warranty is mandatory. This provides full consumer protection for everyone.

The major reason why prices are higher in the EU are a) VAT (the tax that allows us to have healthcare free at point of need, social care for those in greatest need and more) and b) different economies of scale. The EU is a collection of smaller markets - the US is one big market.

I can never understand the perverse logic that causes US citizens to be anti any measure designed to improve consumer protection - simply out of this irrational fear of government regulation!

As for companies increasing prices to cover warranties - that is actually not at all the case - all our warranties do is give us protection if our goods fail due to a manuafcturing fault within the first two years of ownership. What companies do to make extra money is sell extended warranties with higher levels of protection at grossly inflated prices...

Now if you are happy with having no automatic rights with regards to things you buy if they fail after only 90 days - then that is fine by me...! :D - our warranties are not a form of insurance however - they do not cover anything that goes wrong outside of the manuafcturer's control

[nic]

I really like this line of iPaqs. they are super small and super sexy. I have an h1945 and have been nothing but pleased with it. Everything works the way it should. I have had no problems with the screen at all *scratch head*.

Sure I can't see the screen if I'm viewing it from an extreme angle...that could be better. But the screen isn't always "yellow" as everyone claims it is, when you are in front of it using it. I kinda like how you can't see it from weird viewing angles, less likely for someone to read something over your shoulders.

just my opinion. The 2200 series looks nice too..but i didn't want to pay the extra 100 bucks.

[AKBishop]

For anyone else who had trouble finding the rebate on their website...

http://www.smb.compaq.com/html/specials/handhelds.asp

And don't forget to pick up your 2210 11-pack for the smashing low price of $3999. ;-)

[Palm III / Ipaq user]

I love these 19xx series. The form factor is absolutely fantastic. It's great to see that HP is making the model with the most desirable form factor the cheapest.

[PetiteFlower]

Fear of government regulation is not irrational :)

Anyway for the same money I'd still rather have the faster, more powerful, more expandable, better waranteed Dell. The 1900 series still doesn't have a CF slot, or a serial port for a keyboard or gomadic cable, and their battery life still sucks. There are more important things then being small and sexy!

(interesting coming from me being all of 5'1"/105 lbs...)

[Janak Parekh]

Comments about PF, Axims and iPAQs have been relegated to this HOFS thread (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17184). PF, my sincere apologies for derailment, and hopefully we'll stay on-topic this time. :nonono: Here's my attempt:

Well, I think it's good that the choice exists. For those who need expandability, the Axim is a killer deal; however, for those in my family who aren't technically savvy and want a nice, colorful PDA, the 1910 was a no-brainer, and now the 1930 is, even more so. It's a win-win for consumers.

--janak

[UCCOFFEE]

1930 has got 1 year warranty in australia~

[tthiel]

Pfft. Like our government isn't big and controlling. That's a myth that it's not. Pretty obvious myth at that.

Isn't BIG government great! :wink:

[tthiel]

I don't know why people think THIS WILL BE THE ONE that kills Palm. Hasn't happened yet and the 1910 didn't even put a dent in their sales. It's not just the hardware folks. Most people want an easy to use PIM and the Pocket PC ain't it. You can thank Microsoft for that and their cluelessness in making an easy to use interface.

http://news.com.com/2100-1041_3-5067859.html?tag=fd_top

HP is ready to release the h1935 iPAQ. Externally, it is identical to the h1940 that has been for sale since June. Just like its $299 brother, it has an SDIO slot, Windows Mobile 2003 for Pocket PC and the new Samsung processor. The processor is running at 203MHz though rather than 266MHz as it does in the 1940 series. The 1935 also lacks bluetooth and has a smaller FlashROM. The 1940 has a 14MB ROM file store whereas the 1935 doesn't have one. Both have 56MB of usable RAM. The other difference is the 1940 has a 1 year warranty and the 1930 has a 90 day warranty. I personally never recommend buying an extended warranty, but in the case of an electronic device costing $200 that only comes with a 90 day warranty, I might reconsider that opinion.

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/ipaqh1900.gif

So, how does the 1930 and 1940 series compare to the X-Scale based 1910 that came out late last year? "That continues a trend by HP to go with Samsung's chip in its low-priced models. In addition to its lower cost, HP executives have said the Samsung processor outperforms Intel's XScale on a megahertz-to-megahertz basis. HP still uses XScale chips in its higher-end models. Dayan said the h1945 with the 266MHz Samsung chip offers up to 87 percent higher performance than the h1910. "It (has) higher performance even with the 203MHz (Samsung) chip," he said, although some of the performance gain also is attributable to the operating system."

This is going to be a great device. I've held off recommending the new 2003 devices for a while now waiting for this one. Many of the people I know simply don't need bluetooth and shouldn't pay for it. If anyone has been waiting for an ultra-small, powerful and sexy PDA without bluetooth, this is it!