Axim Owners are usually younger?

[David Prahl]

From what I've seen in the real world (sorry, I know this is real too!), the owners of Axim X5s tend to be young. I'm 17, and the other people I know who have Axims are even younger!

[aximmanx5]

I am 14 and i have an axim. I needed something to take notes in school faster. So i got the dell with the foldable keyboard. I got it because its inexpensive. The axim and the keyboard and screen protectors with tax and 2nd day shipping olny ran me 405 dollars. If you bought the ipaq 3955, thats all you could buy for that money, plus the axim has more rom, and a cf slot. Axim owners are younger because the axim is cheaper than all other pocket pc's

[David Prahl]

And we're smarter!
:mrgreen:
(Just kidding!)


Same for me. I was considering the Toshiba e330, which was about the same price. The Axim has everything I needed, and at a price I could afford.

[Sunnyone]

Hmmmm. Either you're wrong, or some of us Axim users don't want to admit our ages?

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Not me, of course. :wink:

[Kati Compton]

If your hypothesis is correct, I would expect a lot of it has to do with the price.

[GoldKey]

You don't have to be young to recognize a great deal. When the Axim came out, nothing else could touch it at the price point.

[dh]

I think did a good job when designing and pricing the Axim.

The pricing is certainly low enough to get young people who are on a tight budget. Just as important the Axim hes enough features to get customers like me, looking for a business and entertainment device.

The Axim still stands up to the new 2003 competion. There is nothing out there that I'm tempted to switch to.

Well maybe that new Sony.......

[Kati Compton]

You don't have to be young to recognize a great deal. When the Axim came out, nothing else could touch it at the price point.
Of course not. But the young may only be able to afford the cheapest PPC.

[PetiteFlower]

Course that depends on your definition of "young" as well. I'm sure the 17 year olds wouldn't consider me young but the 40 year olds would! I'm 26 :)

I think a more likely possibility is that Axim owners are more likely to be first time PPC purchasers.

[GoldKey]

Yeah, I got the feeling that being 30, I am probably considered old for purposes of this survey.

[Anthony Caruana]

At the ripe old age of 35 I was about to buy an Axim (I had actually ordered it) but when the new iPAQs came out I cancelled my order and odered an iPAQ 2210.

My main motivation for looking at the Dell was cost and dual slots. In fact, at the time the only other al slot device avaialbe in my part of the world was the Toshiba and it cost nearly double.

The iPAQ will cost me about $70 AUD more but it's smaller and seems to offer better performance.

I think that, in general younger people have less income and therefore will look at the lower cost devices. However, what makes the Axim special is that it is low cost but not low feature.

[aximmanx5]

That is another reason why i purchased the axim. I am not a first time buyer, but my 3955 died, and i bought it used. Therefore i didn't get to use it or learn anything about it. So you could say i am a first time ppc buyer.

Peace

[Kati Compton]

Actually, it might be even more accurate to say that a lot of people who are getting their first PPC are getting Axims (yes, I know there are exceptions ;)) because of the lower price point... And if someone is 50 they've had longer in which to have had a previous PPC. ;)

And yes, maybe "young" needs to be defined. If it includes the up-to-35 group, then the poll results seem to agree with you thus far. ;)

[Alicatt]

Heh the rashness of youth :D I'm 47 and still feel like a kid inside... if only I could get the knees to work :wink:
my mom is in her 70s and still feels young so how do you define young???

[David Prahl]

This poll was supposed to prove that Axim owners are younger.

My ideas never work! :cry:

Oh well, I guess I proved two things:

1.) I'm usually wrong.

2.) Axim owners are ALL ages! :D Long live the X5!

[Kati Compton]

This poll was supposed to prove that Axim owners are younger.

My ideas never work! :cry:
Well, keep in mind that since it wasn't a front page post, you're not really getting a full picture of PPCT readers, and even if you did, that's not a full picture of PPC owners. You could be right, but it'd be difficult to prove. So it has to stay a hypothesis, I think.

[dh]

Your poll proves that all kinds of people are smart enough to buy Axims for all kinds of reasons.

[PetiteFlower]

Yeah 25 votes isn't enough to draw any conclusions from :(

[David Prahl]

Especially considering 4 are borg! :lol:

[GoldKey]

I didn't vote Borg.

[Kati Compton]

I didn't vote Borg.
Huh. I pegged you as being one of the four... Not sure why, just an instinct... ;)

[David Prahl]

I didn't vote Borg.

Don't you mean "we?"

:lol: Just kidding!

[ux4484]

Course that depends on your definition of "young" as well. I'm sure the 17 year olds wouldn't consider me young but the 40 year olds would! I'm 26 :)

I think a more likely possibility is that Axim owners are more likely to be first time PPC purchasers.

You are (IMO) correct on both accounts PF!

[SlimDady]

Well i myself am 19.. purchased my axim myself cauz i got a deal.


I was told to buy the axim on some of the techy forums i visit.. It seems to be the most popular with the hardcore computer techy/geek compter user.


They all suggested it.


I guess cauz its speed, and price


im happy with it.. glad i picked it over osme of the other ppc



so i dont really think my age had anything to do with it(maybe the affordability is associated with age), but mostly due to the crowd I hang around

[GoldKey]

I didn't vote Borg.
Huh. I pegged you as being one of the four... Not sure why, just an instinct... ;)

Hence, I (we) felt the need to clarify.

[PetiteFlower]

I was told to buy the axim on some of the techy forums i visit.. It seems to be the most popular with the hardcore computer techy/geek compter user.

I think it's most popular with the techy types who don't have $700 lying around to buy the deluxe model Ipaq. Or for those who would have moral issues with spending that much money on a PPC. But for the REALLY hardcore types, money is no object and they want the latest and greatest and fastest etc. So they wouldn't tell you to get the Axim :)

[QTaximGrL]

hmm i haven't seen many YOUNG users out there in the real world. but, i have noticed...and i hope this doesnt offend anyone...but most of the people i do see carrying an axim seem to look dirty. maybe dirty is not the right word...but maybe, they look NON-professional? go figure, jus my two cents

[David Prahl]

most of the people i do see carrying an axim seem to look dirty.

:bad-words:
:armed:
:2gunfire:
:snipersmile:

<growl> <snarl>

[GoldKey]

hmm i haven't seen many YOUNG users out there in the real world. but, i have noticed...and i hope this doesnt offend anyone...but most of the people i do see carrying an axim seem to look dirty. maybe dirty is not the right word...but maybe, they look NON-professional? go figure, jus my two cents

Maybe you are just hanging out with the wrong people! :D

[droppedd]

Unless Jason or someone has reliable info on the average age of PPCThoughts forum readers in general, your poll is pretty meaningless. From being around the forums here, I get the feeling that the frequently contributing members' average ages are higher than those, say, at PocketMatrix.com's forums. Coincidentally, PocketMatrix discussions seem to frequently devolve into name-calling, with forum mods often joining in :)

You may want to make a second poll for comparison's sake for the average PPCThoughts PPC owner's age, regardless of manufacturer.

[Kati Compton]

hmm i haven't seen many YOUNG users out there in the real world. but, i have noticed...and i hope this doesnt offend anyone...but most of the people i do see carrying an axim seem to look dirty. maybe dirty is not the right word...but maybe, they look NON-professional? go figure, jus my two cents
Clean your glasses, and everything will look better. ;)

I coul see the non-professional, but not the dirty.

[Janak Parekh]

maybe dirty is not the right word...but maybe, they look NON-professional? go figure, jus my two cents
Really? 8O That's the most interesting characterization of a Pocket PC user I've seen... and, in any case, maybe you just inhabit a different borough of NYC than I (or, elsewhere in NYS). I've seen a few people in Manhattan subways using Axims and they look perfectly professional to me. Now -- as for Palm Zires, on the other hand... :lol:

--janak

[maximus]

hmm i haven't seen many YOUNG users out there in the real world. but, i have noticed...and i hope this doesnt offend anyone...but most of the people i do see carrying an axim seem to look dirty. maybe dirty is not the right word...but maybe, they look NON-professional? go figure, jus my two cents

You mentioned:
1. axim users are not young = axim users are old.
2. axim users are not professional.
3. axim users are dirty.
So, axim users are older dirty non-professional folks ? the kind of older dirty folks lying on the bench on parks ? the homeless folks ?

Now I am really confused.

[maximus]

At the ripe old age of 35 I was about to buy an Axim (I had actually ordered it) but when the new iPAQs came out I cancelled my order and odered an iPAQ 2210.

Defector ! Call the Dell Police ! ha-ha. Just kidding. I have both the X5 and 2210 right now, and I have to decide which one I am going to ship to my girlfriend. I choosed to ship the 2210.

Axim rules them all (Copied that sentence from someone else). :wink:

[maximus]

I was told to buy the axim on some of the techy forums i visit.. It seems to be the most popular with the hardcore computer techy/geek compter user.

I think it's most popular with the techy types who don't have $700 lying around to buy the deluxe model Ipaq. Or for those who would have moral issues with spending that much money on a PPC. But for the REALLY hardcore types, money is no object and they want the latest and greatest and fastest etc. So they wouldn't tell you to get the Axim :)

Actually when I decided to purchase a PPC, my choices are the e750, 5450, and X5. The elimination process was very easy. The e750 was so squarish, doesnt feel right on my palm. It does not amplify the the 'cool' aura that I constantly emanate. The 5450 has no integrated CF (I hope pony does not read this post). The axim, on the other hand, feels at home on my palm, with the rubber grip, curvaceous shape .. and it has both slots. So, axim X5 it is.

[Brad Adrian]

...your poll is pretty meaningless...
I wouldn't necessarily say that. Part of good scientific methodology is to state a hypothesis, then test that hypothesis. Just because it's proven wrong or cannot be supported doesn't mean the experiment doesn't have value.

I think this poll did a lot to illustrate just how varied Axim owners are. I hope Dell is reading this thread and learning a thing or two.

[droppedd]

...your poll is pretty meaningless...
I wouldn't necessarily say that. Part of good scientific methodology is to state a hypothesis, then test that hypothesis. Just because it's proven wrong or cannot be supported doesn't mean the experiment doesn't have value.

I think this poll did a lot to illustrate just how varied Axim owners are. I hope Dell is reading this thread and learning a thing or two.

I just mean "meaningless" in terms of really being able to prove the hypothesis, in the absence of a control group to reference. I don't really mean that the results can't be interpreted in any way - they've shown perfectly well what the average age of PocketPCThoughts members who own axims and vote in the online polls is (for what that's worth). But it's not a study you can extrapolate the rest of the Axim-owning world from. Granted, that's the nitpickiness of a scientist coming through there :). If the average age of PPCThoughts voters owning any PDA was, say, 80 years old - well, the Axim owners would then be quite young compared to the other PPC owners.

[Shrink]

Yeah, I got the feeling that being 30, I am probably considered old for purposes of this survey.

Hmm... try 40 on for size! 8O

:wink:

[droppedd]

Yeah, I got the feeling that being 30, I am probably considered old for purposes of this survey.

Hmm... try 40 on for size! 8O

:wink:

You know... as a 20 year old, even i feel old in some forums (especially PocketMatrix.com, with a mind-numbing level of name calling and the most godawful grammar i've seen since first grade.). But here I don't feel so old :).

[GoldKey]

Yeah, I got the feeling that being 30, I am probably considered old for purposes of this survey.

Hmm... try 40 on for size! 8O

:wink:

10 more years!

[dh]

Actually when I decided to purchase a PPC, my choices are the e750, 5450, and X5. The elimination process was very easy. The e750 was so squarish, doesnt feel right on my palm. It does not amplify the the 'cool' aura that I constantly emanate. The 5450 has no integrated CF (I hope pony does not read this post). The axim, on the other hand, feels at home on my palm, with the rubber grip, curvaceous shape .. and it has both slots. So, axim X5 it is.

I had exactly the same choice. If the 5450 had both expansion slots that's what I would have bought. I have no interest in having to buy dumb expansion packs to get basic functionality.

It's sad that the 2150 has more attractive features to me than HP's top of the line model.

Oh, some days I do look rather clean.

I still think the Axim has the best price/features ratio of all the PPCs and I'm looking forward to the new products at the end of this year.

[Jonathon Watkins]

I didn't vote Borg.

8O Why not? :lol:

Well, at 30 I seem to be in the majority and the median here. :)

[GoldKey]

I didn't vote Borg.

8O Why not? :lol:

Well, at 30 I seem to be in the majority and the median here. :)

Wanted to vote my actual age to make it useful. Not sure if you can vote more than once, but I guess I could have voted my actual age and borg.

[targetdrone]

Defector ! Call the Dell Police ! ha-ha. Just kidding. I have both the X5 and 2210 right now, and I have to decide which one I am going to ship to my girlfriend. I choosed to ship the 2210.

Ah, the foolishness of youth. Don't do it.

1. Long distance romances don't work.

2. If she doesn't already want one badly enough to have already bought one, she probably won't really put it to use. In fact, she'll probably just give it to some guy she's seeing while you're not there!

Seriously, hold on to it. There are many good reasons to have 2 PDA's. They make great babysitting aides. A couple of simple games on one can keep an otherwise obnoxious kid QUIETLY entertained for hours.

[maximus]

1. Long distance romances don't work.

2. If she doesn't already want one badly enough to have already bought one, she probably won't really put it to use. In fact, she'll probably just give it to some guy she's seeing while you're not there!

Ah, my friend, Long Distance Relationship is the ultimate test of a partnership. We have been seeing each other for 6 years now, 3 of which are long distance based. It is very hard during the first 1-2 months, but we are almost in constant communication. Now that she has the 2210 with her, we are practically side by side. PocketICQ is always ON on both our PPCs. Anytime we need to talk, we talk. That is the primary reason of sending her the 2210 :D

[SlimDady]

I got a new title for this thread. " Pocket pc for youth. their long distance relationships, and their babysitting devices"

[TobyWong]

I love the logic that was used to come to the conclusion that axim owners are younger:

"I know a couple guys who are young who own axims therefore axim owners are young"

Thats like saying "I know a couple black guys who are tall therefore tall guys are black".

It's a logical fallacy. :)

[David Prahl]

Once again a thread reaches it's peak usefullness about 1/2 through, and the rest is "Off-Topic" fodder.

It's amazing to me how it's always ONE SMALL REMARK that derails an entire thread!

[Kati Compton]

Once again a thread reaches it's peak usefullness about 1/2 through, and the rest is "Off-Topic" fodder.

It's amazing to me how it's always ONE SMALL REMARK that derails an entire thread!

I still see age and Axims being mentioned at the end of the thread...

[Luwigie]

I got the Axim X5 mostly because of the price and also because of the expandability. With the Axim I can add storage and connectivity simulatneously.

My Dad had a Casio E-125 and the backlight problem hit. He said I could have it if I could fix it. We tried to fix it but the parts are just too hard to come by since most E-125s broke down at the three year point (or so) and it had been only a little over 3 years. Thus every one who bought it was starting to try to get the parts as well.

So he got a H1910 and I wanted one still. So I got the Dell Axim:).

I'm 15 by the way.

[maximus]

I got the Axim X5 mostly because of the price and also because of the expandability. With the Axim I can add storage and connectivity simulatneously.

My Dad had a Casio E-125 and the backlight problem hit. He said I could have it if I could fix it. We tried to fix it but the parts are just too hard to come by since most E-125s broke down at the three year point (or so) and it had been only a little over 3 years. Thus every one who bought it was starting to try to get the parts as well.

So he got a H1910 and I wanted one still. So I got the Dell Axim:).

I'm 15 by the way.

15 and playing axim. I envy you.
When I was 15, I played with a casio FX7000 graphic calculator.
The black and white LCD calculator, using a fixed GRAPH= function. Cannot display a complex graphic ...

[M@]

The results of this survey, in my opinion, show nothing. Because you have not compared this Pocket PC to others. If you were to do that you would probably also find that the majority of users are under 35 and under for all devices.

It would be really interesting to see the results of a survey like that!

But the younger of us around would be more likely to buy an Axim IF we had done our "homework" and read around.

[Kati Compton]

It would be really interesting to see the results of a survey like that!

Your wish is my command.

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4874&start=0
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5216&start=0

[M@]

It would be really interesting to see the results of a survey like that!

Your wish is my command.

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4874&start=0
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5216&start=0

Wee look how right I am!

[Xeogears13]

I'm the only one who put down 10-13... I bought mine like 2 months after i turned 13 because i knew a needed extra memory and the dell was a cheap device and it had a cf slot. :twisted: