Some interesting reading re "PDA's"

[Busdriver]

http://www.msnbc.com/news/937704.asp?0cv=CB10 :rotfl:

[TawnerX]

WoW!!

Another air marshal said that “because my PDA is always crashing, I don’t use it anymore.” After his device crashed twice, wiping out an extensive series of notes painstakingly input into the PDA, “I don’t use it except to play Asteroids,” the air marshal said.

(I think it's the Tungsten|T, because that's the only bluetooth capable device from Palm. And we know where $6.9 million bucks worth of tax dolar money is going)

[WyattEarp]

All this money spent on a device that probably wasn't even tested in this type of environment before they invested in it. Just another example of wasted funds by our great govenrment.

[ctmagnus]

THE HANDHELD DEVICES, made by Palm Inc. and commonly known as “personal digital assistants” (PDAs), have become a running joke

:rotfl:

[Jeff Rutledge]

THE HANDHELD DEVICES, made by Palm Inc. and commonly known as “personal digital assistants” (PDAs), have become a running joke

:rotfl:

Finally, the rest of the world has figured that out! :clap:

[Prevost]

THE HANDHELD DEVICES, made by Palm Inc. and commonly known as “personal digital assistants” (PDAs), have become a running joke

:rotfl:

Finally, the rest of the world has figured that out! :clap:
Perhaps those were NOT Palms...PocketPC's are the ones having the ability to crash twice a day :lol:

Come on, this is NOT a flame against PPC. If I am here although being a Palm user is because I really want to decide if a Pocket PC can give me better service now when its time to upgrade...but accept your platform of choice downside...

[Janak Parekh]

Perhaps those were NOT Palms...PocketPC's are the ones having the ability to crash twice a day :lol:
I assume you're just having fun, but the serious answer is that they don't crash twice a day. :)

but accept your platform of choice downside...
Oh, believe me, we do. Note Jason's top post right now -- it's a rant about Toshiba's upgrade policy. We've also ranted about the close button, for example. We're just having a little fun here. That quote is too good to pass up. ;)

--janak

[spursdude]

Perhaps those were NOT Palms...PocketPC's are the ones having the ability to crash twice a day :lol:

Come on, this is NOT a flame against PPC. If I am here although being a Palm user is because I really want to decide if a Pocket PC can give me better service now when its time to upgrade...but accept your platform of choice downside...
I basically never have any problems with stability. I can't remember the last time my Pocket PC crashed. It's really an overhyped "downside" to the Pocket PC. I imagine that with PPC2003 stability is even better. Have you ever owned a Pocket PC? (that's a genuine question; I'm not being sarcastic)

[droppedd]

eh. My Sony Clie crashed all the time, and my m100 would require hard resets fairly often. I think it has more to do with how much crap you put on the thing. In my experience many if not most Palm users don't mess around with too much, outside of maybe a launcher program and a hack or two. My Pocket PC is pretty stable when I do most things on it; it only crashes for very app-specific things (ie if anything tries to take focus while Pocket Everquest is playing, it stays maximized but screen taps don't affect it and sometimes I need to do a soft reset). I think that may have to do with the fact that Palm (at least in OS 4) really cripples what you can do with the hardware and stops you from more serious direct control of the screen and such. Fewer crashes, slower programs.

But it's such a beautiful thing coming from a Clie where you needed PiDirect to do anything with a memory card, to the iPaq where it's all automatic and straight forward. Not everything - i liked Notepad on my m100 a lot more than Notes on my PPC, found it much simpler to jot a quick phone number down when i needed it. But i'm sure i'll find a decent third-party replacement, and there's a lot more that i do like about the platform (soft graffiti, for example, despite its weaknesses, allows such beautiful things as SPB Fullscreen Keyboard).

Besides (not that i trust journalists) they said the devices were made by Palm Inc...

[Prevost]

Perhaps those were NOT Palms...PocketPC's are the ones having the ability to crash twice a day :lol:
I assume you're just having fun, but the serious answer is that they don't crash twice a day. :)

--janak

Thank you for setting me right - I was taking it perhaps a bit more seriously than if just having fun...at least it was funny to me :lol:

Well, now that you say PPC do not crash so frequently, lets go a bit more serious:

I am a Civil Engineer, and believe me, here in Panama having a Palm for PC work in the field is being very so much avant garde.

I use a Palm to set up some spreadsheets, a lot of taking notes in Word (equivalent) so as to share that info later. Now I want to upgrade into a more powerful processor since I want to start CAD plans viewing in my handheld of choice, something I can accomplish both with Palm and Pocket PC.

But I just DO NOT need to lose my work over Activesync or in a crash, and I have just found in forums too many references to this problems so I do not finally decide if it would be a good idea to migrate into PocketPC.

So the bottom line for me is, how much credit should I give to crashes and Activesync problems? Consider Palms almost never crashes or lost info on Hotsync (It have never happen to me)

Believe me, I really like iPAQ 2215 so much that if I find I can rely on it I would bring it by plane to Panama.

[Janak Parekh]

So the bottom line for me is, how much credit should I give to crashes and Activesync problems? Consider Palms almost never crashes or lost info on Hotsync (It have never happen to me)
ActiveSync acting flaky -- yes, it happens more often than HotSync. That said, people with problems tend to gravitate towards forums, so you'll get a biased picture here. I personally have very few real problems with ActiveSync.

Device stability -- not a problem. I haven't suffered a spontaneous reset or major crash except for my very early (~ 2000) iPAQ days. As long as you keep the battery charged, the unit should work very well. There are backup solutions, which are an excellent second-line defense.

--janak

[droppedd]

Most people having ActiveSync issues really seem to have problems when they sync to multiple desktop computers. If you need that feature, stick with the Palm. Otherwise the 2215's a solid unit.

BTW, the included iPaq Backup (a branded version of Pocket Backup) allows you to fully back up to a memory card in case anything should go wrong.That way you can restore your PPC, if the need arises, while on the road away from a PC. And I personally found my old Clie to require a restore from memory card a few times... so far no problems with my 2210. Assuming you don't go nuts with 3rd party apps, you shouldn't even have to soft reset all that often (I only have to when Everquest crashes it when it loses focus :)).

[aroma]

Just to add my 2 cents...
I for one have never had a problem with ActiveSync. I've personally have used three different PPC's, (iPAQ 3830, 5450 and a ViewSonic v37). In my office there is also two iPAQ 3600 users who also have had no problems with ActiveSync. On my units, I sync my Mail, Notes, Calender, Contacts, and Tasks as well as Files (Word, Excel, and maps for my XMap application) and like I said before, I've yet to have any problems with ActiveSync.

- Aaron

[redifrogger]

I have the infamous e740 ( :oops: ), and I have never had a problem with ActiveSync 8) with the new ROM, and my machine is very stable :wink: ; no crashes - I too think that is overrated. :D

[aroma]

I also should add that my machine(s) have been very stable and have never crashed on me. I also cannot think of ever having to do a hard-reset (other than after a ROM upgrade). If will occasionly soft-reset, just for good measure.

- Aaron

[Prevost]

ActiveSync acting flaky -- yes, it happens more often than HotSync. That said, people with problems tend to gravitate towards forums, so you'll get a biased picture here. I personally have very few real problems with ActiveSync.

Device stability -- not a problem. I haven't suffered a spontaneous reset or major crash except for my very early (~ 2000) iPAQ days. As long as you keep the battery charged, the unit should work very well. There are backup solutions, which are an excellent second-line defense.

--janak

Well, I agree that when something go wrong, the user get to a forum and talk a lot. It also is noticed about Palm forums, and everything said there is strange to me since I never have problems on Hotsync nor crashes. I dont even know how to reset my Palm!!!

your comments encourage me. Now there is an offer of the iPAQ 1915. What's the difference of it against the 1910? Is it worthy?

[Janak Parekh]

your comments encourage me. Now there is an offer of the iPAQ 1915. What's the difference of it against the 1910? Is it worthy?
The 1915 is the same thing as the 1910. Unless it's a great deal, if you're interested in that form factor go for the 1930/1940: they have SDIO, the 1940 has Bluetooth, PPC2k3, faster processors, etc.

--janak

[Prevost]

No, thanx. Too small ! (I'm not nuts, just something thicker like 2215 is easier to hold I think)

Just asked since it is available in Panama. 1910 has been around for a little while, and the 5450 is just arriving. If I want any soon the 2215, will need to order it by remote control :mrgreen:

[aroma]

No, thanx. Too small ! (I'm not nuts, just something thicker like 2215 is easier to hold I think)

You do realize that there's not much difference in the thickness of 1940 and the 2215... less than 3mm (2.6mm, according to HP's website).

[droppedd]

well, the 2210 does have those cute rubber sidegrips, which gives it a fairly solid feel next to the non-contoured sides of the 1940. And it's sure a lot thicker than my old Clie t415 (that thing was thinner than a Palm V or Visor Edge).