Windows Mobile Upgrades Available for iPAQ 3800, 3900 and 5450 models

[Ed Hansberry]

<a href="http://www.hp.com/sbso/special/ppc_upgrade.html">http://www.hp.com/sbso/special/ppc_upgrade.html</a><br /><br />HP is almost ready to sell the upgrades to some Pocket PC 2002 devices. If you have your receipt and purchased any of the qualifying devices between May 23, 2003 and September 23, 2003, you get a free upgrade. Otherwise, it will be $29.95 for the CD. Check back on June 26th for more information.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/2003/20030623-ppc2003upgrade.jpg" /><br /><br />The page to order the upgrade is not yet available. This is great news for iPAQ owners, especially this 3970 user. However, no indication yet as to whether or not the 1910 will be upgradable and the update page only lists the 3900 and 5450, not the 3800 as shown on the button. :?

[SilverSealAMW]

Well, at first I'd been hoping for this, but now that I've played with a 2215, I'm not interested in an updgrade for my 3950 anymore. I want the new unit! :D

[Deus]

The rumors that current software may not be compatible has me worried. After collecting software for so long..... :? :?:

[hoffm11]

I guess the 32 MB 3635 will not have the ability to upgrade?? :cry:

[Jason Dunn]

The rumors that current software may not be compatible has me worried. After collecting software for so long..... :? :?:

I think you'll find that almost all developers, at least commercial ones, will have a powerful incentive to quickly upgrade their applications. Most have had the SDK for over a month now, so you'd think they'd have their apps ready to go. :-)

This is really no different or worse than when Windows XP came out - you had to wait a few months before you got the drivers to really use everything you paid for. Sad, but true.

[Jason Dunn]

I guess the 32 MB 3635 will not have the ability to upgrade?? :cry:

Probably not, no. It's just too damn old.

[phanprod]

I guess the 32 MB 3635 will not have the ability to upgrade?? :cry:

I believe the upgrade is limited by the hardware, so the 3600 and 3700 series are out. I'm suprised (and a bit confused) by the graphic stating the 3800 series would be elegible... but then again, it doesn't say so on the site itself. And I almost went for the 3800, but couldn't settle for the screen. Phew! 8)

[Jonathan1]

Let the ****ing about the price commence. One thing to keep in mind guys before hitting that submit button. HP was\is under no obligations to provide an upgrade path at all for older devices. I’m actually amazed that they are even supporting the 39xx series at all. I just hope they do a better job of dealing with shipping and handling with this upgrade. My 2002 upgrade for my iPaq cost me 10 bucks, for S/H, for a CD. Why do you need to priority FedEx a CD?!?! While others got it for 5 bucks. It seems as if Compaq decided to switch shipping methods and some of us users got stuck in the middle :P

[Andy Roberts]

Err tiny bit confused, just chect the website and it doesn't mention anything about the 3800 series (which I own).

Im I out of luck then?

[phanprod]

I don't really mind the price.... at least it's not the $89 they wanted for the Win 98 to Millenium upgrade. That was a joke. But hey - you gotta do what you gotta do. After all, as you said, I'm just happy they're even supporting my 3955 at this time!

[Palmguy]

I guess the 32 MB 3635 will not have the ability to upgrade?? :cry:

There is no way that the new OS could fit in 16 megs of ROM.

[Dave Conger]

There is no way that the new OS could fit in 16 megs of ROM.

Not the premium version, but the professional version can. The Toshiba e350 only has a 16MB ROM.

[Fishie]

Hmm so my Ipaq 1910 bought for me as a birthday present on may 21th is screwed aither way then?

[phanprod]

Hmm so my Ipaq 1910 bought for me as a birthday present on may 21th is screwed aither way then?

I wouldn't say 'screwed'... there's nothing wrong, per se, with ppc2002. If it's working now, you're still relatively up to date.

[Ethan]

An HP rep I spoke to at a trade show told me that HP was planning to offer the 2003 upgrade VIA DOWNLOAD, as well as via CD.

[willchap]

What about the Jornada 567? Any chance of upgrading it?

[Dave Conger]

Anyone with a device purchased between May 23rd and now that is elidgable for the free upgrade want to see if they can get past the serial number phase of http://www.ppcupgrade.com?

[Ed Hansberry]

An HP rep I spoke to at a trade show told me that HP was planning to offer the 2003 upgrade VIA DOWNLOAD, as well as via CD.
Don't you just love reps that spout off as if they have a clue? These are the same reps that told other sites that PPC 2003 still had Windows CE 3.0 as the core, that app compatibilty was going to be a serious problem, that it was X-Scale optimized and apps written for the 2003 devices wouldn't run under 2002, that StrongARM devices would be left out in the cold (something the XDA upgrades seems to contradict, eh?), that only 48MB ROM devices would be upgradable, blah blah blah.

Take all that garbage with a grain of salt.

[Kevin Daly]

So this is the bit where support for the ol' Jornada 568 finally peters out :cry:
Understandable if regrettable.
Oh well, when I have money again I think it'll be a 55*0 model for me.
And I can't help being cheerful when I think of how overnight the market for .NET Compact Framework software just got a lot bigger 0X

[spaceman]

According to CNET (http://www.cnet.com/techtrends/0-6014-8-21293345-5.html?tag=dir), upgrades for H3900 and H5400 will be available in July and H3800 in October.

quote:
Any iPaqs running Pocket PC 2002 and purchased between May 23, 2003 and September 23, 2003 are eligible for an upgrade for $15.99, which covers the cost of shipping and handling. Upgrade software for H3900- and H5400-series iPaqs will be available in July; H3800-series software will be available in October.

[Enderet]

Do any of the old ipaqs have 200 mhz memory bus? :|

[Brandy]

An HP rep I spoke to at a trade show told me that HP was planning to offer the 2003 upgrade VIA DOWNLOAD, as well as via CD.

After going through the 2002 upgrade mess, I hope this is true

[mv]

if the xda can be upgraded, why not the 3800 iPAQS?

[kdross]

I believe the upgrade is limited by the hardware, so the 3600 and 3700 series are out.

Why would the 3700 series be out of luck? It has all the specs (ARM processor, 64Mb of RAM).

Is there something I'm overlooking?

[pschultz]

I was surprised when I saw that the 3800 series are upgradable.

[sambeckett]

H3800-series software will be available in October

what BS.

They make us wait, and hope to tempt us to buy new hardware.

All the software is aleady done if you ask me.

[shekondar]

So this is the bit where support for the ol' Jornada 568 finally peters out :cry:
Understandable if regrettable.


Kinda looks that way... I tried the www.ppcupgrade.com thing, using my 567's serial number (and a purchase date of 6/12/03), and it says the serial number is invalid... :cry:

Doesn't really surprise me, given HP's reputation for customer support...

[R K]

All the software is aleady done if you ask me.

It takes time to customize the OS with the components of the system. We already know that video cards and sound cards on one computer aren't the same as the other--not to mention motherboard chipsets, onboard connectivity and anything else that might be on there.
Following the Linux development crowd will convince one that it's no so easy. When the H3700 series came out after the H3600s, they only needed to give it a minor tweaking to get it to work. When the H3800 series came out, the display, touch pannel, audio, power management and some other drivers needed a complete overhaul.

Some would say that HP is being totally generous for even offering an upgrade path for the H3800 series (if they end up doing so).

[gpspassion]

Not the premium version, but the professional version can. The Toshiba e350 only has a 16MB ROM.

Sorry if I missed an explanation of this, is there a list and description of the various versions, i.e. pro, premium, etc...?

[jpaq]

Toshiba and Audiovox will be selling PPC 2003 for their handhelds that are currently on PPC 2002 starting on..............MAN! I got you ALL!!!!!

We're lucky we got EUU3.

Yeah. Me and my Maestro are about to be "my wife" or "some lucky buyer on E-Bay" and my Maestro.

Now, when can will we see the 2210 get a price break. I mean it's been out for 6 days already. Granted, it's only been out for 17 hours and 45 minutes, officially, but come on!!!


:D

[idomolau]

Well...is really sad feeling...no new OS...I think is time to consider a new PDA...but I still love my iPAQ...

[DustyLBottoms]

There is no way that the new OS could fit in 16 megs of ROM.

Not the premium version, but the professional version can. The Toshiba e350 only has a 16MB ROM.

Toshiba can do whatever they want to do for THEIR line of PPCs. Remember, you manufacturer is responsible for taking what MS gives them and tweaking it for their individual product. That's why you can't just buy this OS upgrade from Best Buy in a software form and load it up yourself.

[Kati Compton]

You know, it'd be really nice if, like desktop PCs, the OS was the OS and could just be upgraded universally. And the OEMs just came out with special driver installs that were needed. But I guess as an embedded OS it's very tied to the hardware... Probably necessary to get any reasonable speed out of it, now that I think of it. Oh well. It was a thought.

[GO-TRIBE]

Hmm so my Ipaq 1910 bought for me as a birthday present on may 21th is screwed aither way then?

I wouldn't say 'screwed'... there's nothing wrong, per se, with ppc2002. If it's working now, you're still relatively up to date.

HP a 1910 upgrade is really needed!!! Those devices are only months old. I was really hoping that HP would offer an upgrade for my 3650 again; we did pay $499 for these devices even if it was 3 years ago. :lol: I mean c'mon Compaq upgraded the old B&W Aero from CE PsPC to PPC 2000 for goodness sakes.

[kzemach]

Do any of the old ipaqs have 200 mhz memory bus? :|

Reiterating this question with the further note: if my 3955 doesn't have the 200 mhz bus, are things like PIE going to be any faster rending images? Are the changes that related to speed really software optimizations, or optimizations to take advantage of the memory bus of the 255?

[Pony99CA]

H3800-series software will be available in October

what BS.

They make us wait, and hope to tempt us to buy new hardware.

All the software is aleady done if you ask me.
I agree that it seems too long to me, but I suspect that HP is customizing and testing the upgrade for their XScale (in other words, current) Pocket PCs now.

Once that is done, they'll move on to doing it for the 3800s.

For the 3600 and 3700 owners out there, imagine when you would get your upgrades (if they were offered). :-)

Steve

[Pony99CA]

Do any of the old ipaqs have 200 mhz memory bus? :|
Reiterating this question with the further note: if my 3955 doesn't have the 200 mhz bus, are things like PIE going to be any faster rending images? Are the changes that related to speed really software optimizations, or optimizations to take advantage of the memory bus of the 255?
I doubt any current iPAQs have a 200 MHz bus. That would only make sense if they had PXA255s, which some iPAQs released recently might. However, I wonder if HP would bother reengineering the older iPAQs to support the faster bus. If the PXA255 is completely compatible with the PXA250, my guess is that they would just plug the new CPU in and keep the 100 MHz bus.

Steve

[Abba Zabba]

I guess the 32 MB 3635 will not have the ability to upgrade?? :cry:

Besides the point that you won't get an upgrade, don't you think it's about time for a new device anyway :?:

[gpspassion]

Isn't the 200mhz bus a factor of the PX255? These chips are really chipsets no, with pretty much everything on board, except maybe for memory, that's more for the PX260 (?)

[Pony99CA]

Isn't the 200mhz bus a factor of the PX255? These chips are really chipsets no, with pretty much everything on board, except maybe for memory, that's more for the PX260 (?)
I would have thought that the hardware would change so that memory could accept data at the faster speeds. But what do I know -- I'm a software guy. :-)

Steve

[sting0r]

No update on the upgrade on HP's website yet. Any news?????

[CoreyJF]

I have been hitting the refresh button on http://www.hp.com/sbso/special/ppc_upgrade.html
for about 10 minutes now, even tried clearing my cache. Oh well, time to go do something else. Maybe there will be news when I get back to my computer :!:

[seanturner]

Well, it's up now but i cna't find the page to buy it for my 5450!!!! Does anyone have the link because the link they give on the site is impercise...

[pschultz]

I can't find it either.

[seanturner]

&lt;Take knife, insert in heart> :evil: :cry: :evil:

[seanturner]

Has anyone gotten the microsoft www.ppcupgrade.com to work? I just tried it with my 5455 and my 3850 and it says invalid serial number for both...

[Janak Parekh]

I believe that site's only for the Toshiba e750, at least right now. HP has a separate site.

--janak