Pocket PC 2003 Unleashed! [Archive] - Thoughts Media Forums

Jason Dunn

06-23-2003, 05:00 AM

The moment you've been all waiting for is here: Pocket PC 2003 is upon us. Due to my NDA with Microsoft, I've had to sit here quietly while rumours, speculation, and outright misinformation has been published by other Web sites, unable to respond with my thoughts on the subject. The MVPs on my team have been likewise stymied - we've known a great deal about Pocket PC 2003 since late last year, and it's been frustrating to not be able to say "No, wait, that's now fixed!". Enough complaining from me - on to the good stuff! To celebrate the launch of Pocket PC 2003, every 2003 seconds (33 minutes), we'll be publishing a new bit of information relating to Pocket PC 2003: new hardware, software screen shots, press releases about new devices, our own thoughts on the new OS, and much more. I was hoping we'd be able to keep this up for a good 8+ hours, but unfortunately there's not quite as much news coming in as I had hoped. I guess I'll be doing a lot of writing tonight. :roll: The first really cool thing I personally have for you is a review of an iPAQ 2215 I've had for the past week. It's one hell of a device, and I'm very impressed with the features and benchmarking performance I've seen. Expect that review later tonight. :mrgreen: Here we go...Pocket PC 2003 lift off!

Master O'Mayhem

06-23-2003, 05:00 AM

weeeee

sambeckett

06-23-2003, 05:00 AM

0X 0X 0X
12:00!! YEA

Im in!

nightmare

06-23-2003, 05:00 AM

Booyah! Not a second too late.

rfischer

06-23-2003, 05:00 AM

WooHoo!

umichboy

06-23-2003, 05:01 AM

D'oh! D'oh! D'oh! I mean, woohoo.

Llew Silverhand

06-23-2003, 05:01 AM

Whee!

mc_03

06-23-2003, 05:01 AM

YAY! :new-bday: err... most appropiate smiley for this situation. Haven't even read the article yet, but make sure you tell us everything!

06-23-2003, 05:02 AM

OK, time for bed.

Trokair

06-23-2003, 05:02 AM

A glorious day it is, indeed. :D

I, for one, will catch up on the hideously large pile of news tomorrow morning, bright and early!

-Kyle

AhuhX

06-23-2003, 05:03 AM

How about first 10 posters here get a free 2215 to celebrate???

Did I make it??? :)

beq

06-23-2003, 05:03 AM

Hi, I think you forgot to include a link for the article for this thread?

Reza

06-23-2003, 05:04 AM

How about first 10 posters here get a free 2215 to celebrate???
just in case... :mrgreen:

nightmare

06-23-2003, 05:04 AM

LOL that sucks man, you're one post too late then.

Hey wait a second, I gotta be on here ANOTHER 33 minutes to get information? Oh God...

sambeckett

06-23-2003, 05:05 AM

:idea:

Scott R

06-23-2003, 05:05 AM

Does this first post count? Not much info of interest. Do we have to wait another 33 minutes to get some real info?

Scott

Dave Conger

06-23-2003, 05:05 AM

YAY, finally the tape is removed from our mouths! :D

pschultz

06-23-2003, 05:06 AM

YAY, finally the tape is removed from our mouths! :D
Tell all! Please!!!!!

Jason Dunn

06-23-2003, 05:09 AM

Hi, I think you forgot to include a link for the article for this thread?

No, the article isn't done yet - that's just the first post to kick off the night. New info every 33 minutes, which somewhere down the line tonight will include the article. :-)

You can go to bed, it will be here in the morning.

Jason Dunn

06-23-2003, 05:10 AM

Hey wait a second, I gotta be on here ANOTHER 33 minutes to get information? Oh God...

We've got some cool info coming, but it's really not worth staying up all night for. Get some sleep!

Birdiestyle

06-23-2003, 05:10 AM

You're kidding!! There's a new OS coming out... Get Out.....

nightmare

06-23-2003, 05:11 AM

You can go to bed, it will be here in the morning.

NO. The whole point is to actually SEE it go up.

Here's an idea... post all articles for 2 minutes, then take 'em down. THEN post them fully every 33 minutes. How's that sound? Huh? Huh?

Damn...

skywarner

06-23-2003, 05:11 AM

Well, I _MUST_ be a PDA geek, 'cause I've got browser windows open for this site, Brighthand, Dale's site, etc. Brighthand now has a decent review of both Pocket PC 2003 and the HP2215 up as of a couple of minutes ago.

I can't wait to pick one of the 2215's up in the next couple of days!!! :-)

Scott R

06-23-2003, 05:12 AM

AhuhX

06-23-2003, 05:12 AM

You heard Jason everyone... off to bed now!

P.S. I just hope my boss understands why I'm leaving in the middle of the working day to go home to sleep... ;)

Jason Dunn

06-23-2003, 05:13 AM

Does this first post count? Not much info of interest. Do we have to wait another 33 minutes to get some real info?

Sorry to disappoint you, but yes. You know, the whole 2003 seconds thing? :roll:

SilverSealAMW

06-23-2003, 05:14 AM

:D :D :D :D

Jason Dunn

06-23-2003, 05:16 AM

I'm anxious to find out specifics as to where some of the other sites that posted advanced info/rumors were wrong. So far, I haven't seen much proof of that. Is there hidden, undocumented landscape functionality?

I'm not going to quibble with you Scott, but to answer your specific question, no, there is no hidden landscape functionality. I'll try to explain in detail tomorrow some of the misinformation I've seen floating around - but in short, I've seen things like:

- Pocket PC 2003 is just a bug fix
- Pocket PC 2003 is based on Windows CE 3.0
- Pocket PC 2003 will offer no performance enhancements

All of the above are false, and anyone holding an iPAQ 2215 will know exactly what I mean. :mrgreen:

ctmagnus

06-23-2003, 05:17 AM

Sorry to disappoint you, but yes. You know, the whole 2003 seconds thing? :roll:

Now if only I could learn to sleep for 2002 seconds at a time...

ikesler

06-23-2003, 05:18 AM

Now we're talking..........!!!!!!!! :D :D

thanos255

06-23-2003, 05:18 AM

So when do you think we should REALISTICALLY see HP come out with the upgrade??

Thanks
Thanos

Shadowcat

06-23-2003, 05:22 AM

If I didn't have 2 midterm exams tomorrow :? I think I would stay up all night 8O.

06-23-2003, 05:22 AM

Thank goodness for the new mobile forums. I can lay in bed and keep up to date.

ghostppc

06-23-2003, 05:23 AM

No, the article isn't done yet - that's just the first post to kick off the night. New info every 33 minutes, which somewhere down the line tonight will include the article. :-)

You can go to bed, it will be here in the morning.

Like anyone can sleep now! It just too exciting! It's way to....... :sleeping:

Enderet

06-23-2003, 05:23 AM

Grrr DH i envy you

ikesler

06-23-2003, 05:24 AM

Enderet

06-23-2003, 05:25 AM

We should look around the net... maybe some price drops will ensue.

darrylb

06-23-2003, 05:25 AM

You gotta be a geek just to get this excited about something that only exists in "virtual" format anyway....

It is just like the Win95 launch, except a much smaller scale.... :lol:

sting0r

06-23-2003, 05:26 AM

Please give us upgrade info first Jason!!!!

beq

06-23-2003, 05:27 AM

It hurts my eyes to look at the JVCs' boxy design and buttons, but it sounds nice.

Enderet

06-23-2003, 05:27 AM

No not upgrade info... give us new PPCs info! :D

mc_03

06-23-2003, 05:27 AM

I'm definitely staying up a couple more minutes for the first upgrade of the night :) I wonder when MS is actually going to officially announce it. Nothing on their main page or on pocketpc.com

nihilism

06-23-2003, 05:27 AM

New ppc 2003 on Asus ppc has a turbo function!
Inbuilt underclocking for the x-scale methinks !

http://hardwareanalysis.com/images/articles/large/10787.jpg

Enderet

06-23-2003, 05:28 AM

Im going to stay up until 12... my time... which will be in another 2 hours and a half.

06-23-2003, 05:28 AM

From what I've read so far, the h2210 is a super device and much better value than the Toshiba.

Shame there seems to be no Dell news so far.

Enderet

06-23-2003, 05:29 AM

New ppc 2003 on Asus ppc has a turbo function!
Inbuilt underclocking for the x-scale methinks !

http://hardwareanalysis.com/images/articles/large/10787.jpg

I hope the new axim comes with this!

Jonathan1

06-23-2003, 05:29 AM

Is there an app anywhere that auto refreshes IE every second? :D :wink:

BTS

06-23-2003, 05:29 AM

The burning question I have will be when will the new OS have Linksys CF W12 drivers. I'm using PPC 2000 but am now ready for the upgrade (that 2210 is just too sweet!). My burning reason to upgrade is to go wireless - I've been doing that on a Handera 330 for the last 4 months and it's PAINFUL doing that in monchrome!

Enderet

06-23-2003, 05:30 AM

Haha Jonathan... wow its good to see so many people here at this time.

sting0r

06-23-2003, 05:31 AM

No not upgrade info... give us new PPCs info! :D

Brighthand already got new ppc info. Some of us will end up upgrading instead of buying new....

Enderet

06-23-2003, 05:32 AM

Hehe the Brighthand stuff is old news.... I think we all know about the 355, the 2200 series and the other new ipaqs. I want Axim and Gateway hhehe

Enderet

06-23-2003, 05:33 AM

No not upgrade info... give us new PPCs info! :D

Brighthand already got new ppc info. Some of us will end up upgrading instead of buying new....

But yeah i understand what your point of view is stingor... god this is just so exciting

skywarner

06-23-2003, 05:34 AM

www.davescompaqipaq.com

Info includes review and speed tests and other misc...

I figure about another hour of this before I hit the sack. Time here on the east coast is 12:34am. Gotta be up at 6! :-)

Crystal Eitle

06-23-2003, 05:34 AM

Thank goodness for the new mobile forums. I can lay in bed and keep up to date.
I am jalouse.
(And that's not a missspelling. I just like to say "jealous" in French.)

mc_03

06-23-2003, 05:34 AM

I doubt anyone here knows any more about the Gatewway PPCs than we do... unless they are also under NDA for that too!

Mooo!!!

Enderet

06-23-2003, 05:35 AM

In regards to upgrade info.... Viewsonic v35 is upgradable and the pocket loox....

http://www.infosyncworld.com/

Crystal Eitle

06-23-2003, 05:36 AM

It hurts my eyes to look at the JVCs' boxy design and buttons, but it sounds nice.
I am all over that JVC. I'll be watching the reviews of that one very closely.

I don't even mind the way it looks - I think the black is cool.

Enderet

06-23-2003, 05:36 AM

Time for new info yet?

sting0r

06-23-2003, 05:36 AM

Need 5450 upgrade info, credit card burning hole in hand, I want to be first on list...........

ctmagnus

06-23-2003, 05:38 AM

I am jalouse.
(And that's not a missspelling.

But that was. :mrgreen:

ikesler

06-23-2003, 05:38 AM

Anybody else think that 2215 is looking better and better?

Anthony Caruana

06-23-2003, 05:38 AM

Is there an app anywhere that auto refreshes IE every second? :D :wink:

Yep - it's called your Finger. You leave it on the F5 key :-)

entropy1980

06-23-2003, 05:39 AM

Hey Jason Pocket Plus doesn't work tell yer company to get to work!!! 8) :lol: just kidding ... kind of... It's driving me crazy i can't use it on my 2215 yet I keep looking for all the cool features it adds....

Crystal Eitle

06-23-2003, 05:40 AM

I am jalouse.
(And that's not a missspelling.

But that was. :mrgreen:

D'oh!!!!! :oops: 8O :splat:

And this from the 5th-grade districtwide spelling bee champ. I am up way past my bedtime.

Enderet

06-23-2003, 05:44 AM

I cant believe Dell is going to leave us in the dark :evil:

Foo Fighter

06-23-2003, 05:46 AM

Is there any way to turn off the ugly blue gradient in the updated apps (like inbox, calendar, and so on)?

Foo Fighter

06-23-2003, 05:47 AM

I cant believe Dell is going to leave us in the dark :evil:

Just wait. I'm sure they will be making some announcement regarding existing Axims and whether they will offer upgrades.

Enderet

06-23-2003, 05:52 AM

oops.. no i didnt mean leaving us in the dark in regards to that. I meant leaving us in the dark in regards to no announcements / info about a new Axim. You see...i really hope the new Axim beats the 2200s because then its going to be a great PPC.(considering the fact that the 2200 is a very very nice machine)

Foo Fighter

06-23-2003, 05:55 AM

Oh, well I wouldn't worry. Remember, it is 12:00 AM EST June 23. Let's give these companies, and the rest of north America, to open for business and get the marketing staff to work! :lol:

I'd say by noon, Pacific time, we should hear something from Dell and Gateway.

igreen

06-23-2003, 05:58 AM

Yep...HP was good enough to duplicate the inbox attachments bug that showed up on the Axims in their 2215! Let's see if the Registry workaround fixes it.

Rob Borek

06-23-2003, 06:02 AM

Phew! Weeeeeeeee! I can now talk about Windows Mobile 2003 Software for Pocket PC!

ikesler

06-23-2003, 06:05 AM

Talk my friend Talk!!!! :D

Enderet

06-23-2003, 06:05 AM

Rob tell us what you know please!

Rob Borek

06-23-2003, 06:12 AM

Rob tell us what you know please!

I'm sure Jason will reveal all in good time, but I'm excited about this release - at least as much as I was excited about the 2002 release! I've played with the 2003 OS - though not as much as some - and Pocket IE is one hell of an improvement, as is Media Player 9. Connection Manager is MUCH more intuitive, and the change in the OS adds quite a few features, and makes it much easier to keep up with the underlying Windows CE .Net releases.

maximus

06-23-2003, 06:53 AM

L2TP and IPv6 support are cool.

128-bit crypto is in ROM is cool.

But I dont see any killer enhancements yet.

Wondering ...

willij

06-23-2003, 07:46 AM

Well it be supported for my HP Jornada 568? Is HP going to release it for my Jornada? Will it cost anything?

darrylb

06-23-2003, 09:09 AM

L2TP and IPv6 support are cool.

128-bit crypto is in ROM is cool.

But I dont see any killer enhancements yet.

Wondering ...

Not to mention .Net in the ROM - Great for developers (or for those of us who care.... :wink: )

Oh and the performance improvements and the optimisation for ARM CPUs, and the connection manager :wink: :lol:

willij

06-23-2003, 10:41 AM

Well it be supported for my HP Jornada 568? Is HP going to release it for my Jornada? Will it cost anything?

This is my question.

acronym

06-23-2003, 02:04 PM

can I quick launch applications off the today screen without using the start menu? huh?
grrrr.....

at least the kernel is finally 'optimized' for last years processors :roll:

Kirk Stephens

06-23-2003, 04:04 PM

To infinity and beyond! :clap: (or maybe just to bestbuy)

Crystal Eitle

06-23-2003, 04:11 PM

Not to mention .Net in the ROM - Great for developers (or for those of us who care.... :wink: )

w00t! I already use one program - Achieve-It! - that uses .net. I'm excited to know that if I get a new device, I won't have to use up valuable RAM on the .net stuff.

AWESOME.