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tonyyeb
06-17-2003, 08:39 AM
Hi all,

Just got a 802.11b module for my Axim X5. This is mainly for use at work. But to use our net connection each computer has to run an Ident Deamon (or identd) so that you are authenticated for net access, otherwise you get "Access denied!". Anyone know of an ident deamon for the pocket pc? All help appreciated, Thanks!

Chris

davidspalding
06-17-2003, 02:57 PM
How odd ... I guess this is at work? So the server runs an ident query to determine if the same user is logged in that also wants to send mail? Kind of silly. PPC doesn't have a "user logged in," like NT/2000/XP and Unix systems, so a PPC Identd program would probably just answer with a default, or configurable, response.

Some SMTP servers are set to authenticate if the same IP has successfully polled a POP3 server. I don't know the details, my friend and cousin-in-law has his Linux server set up this way, which enables my own virtual SMTP server (Win2K) at home to use it as a smart host for SMTP relaying ... as long as someone at my IP has recently polled POP3.

You might search download.com and other sites for such a thing, but I'd be surprised if anyone has even ever needed IDENTD for PPC. Maybe OE1KENOBI would accept the technical challenge. ;) (BTW, I believe the appropriate RFC is 1413.)

tonyyeb
06-17-2003, 03:21 PM
Thanks for your help David. You have described my problem nearly spot on. The identd software on our clients passes on the username that the person logged on with to the authentification server on port 113.

This will then allow access to our proxy server to access the internet.

If anyone else has any ideas or maybe even wants to accept the challenge or writing it???!!!

Thanks

Chris (aka tonyyeb)

Janak Parekh
06-17-2003, 04:39 PM
Chris... argh, this is evil! ;)

For what it's worth, it's probably theoretically possible to port the UNIX identd daemon, since a number of other UNIX apps have been ported in the past (http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/wince/dirlist.html), although that's probably overkill. Otherwise, a Google search might turn up something (make to search for Windows CE in addition to Pocket PC). I'd love to write one, but I don't have the time right now (or the foreseeable future). :(

--janak

tonyyeb
06-17-2003, 05:46 PM
Thanks for looking into this for me. I have already tried google for some hours now but no luck. Ive tried sourceforge but again no luck. I'm thinking about trying to write one myself but don't know where to start. I know a bit of VB and have downloaded the SDK's from MS but haven't looked. Can you point me in the right direction?

Thanks

Chris

Janak Parekh
06-17-2003, 07:29 PM
Thanks for looking into this for me. I have already tried google for some hours now but no luck. Ive tried sourceforge but again no luck. I'm thinking about trying to write one myself but don't know where to start. I know a bit of VB and have downloaded the SDK's from MS but haven't looked. Can you point me in the right direction?
I'd guess the way to do it is to first figure out an implementation for the IDENT protocol on a desktop machine. Assuming you're comfortable with networking, writing a VB or somesuch desktop program to respond to IDENT queries would be first; you could then take most of it and port it easily to eVB. Documentationwise, davidspalding's RFC reference (here's a direct link (http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1413.html) to RFC 1413) would be the first step. It does look fairly simple, but I haven't programmed it before.

--janak

davidspalding
06-17-2003, 07:39 PM
im running a freeware ident for nt [and an 8-mo old in my arms, hence t/poor typing] on my system, so theyre out there....

tonyyeb
06-17-2003, 08:53 PM
Did you mean you are running an NT identd on your pocket pc? If so which one?

Thanks

Chris

davidspalding
06-18-2003, 02:33 AM
No, I'm running a freeware identd service on my Windows 2000 system. Sorry for the confusion.

jeffmd
06-18-2003, 07:14 AM
while indirect, you should beable to run pocket chat which is an irc client over at http://www.sspocketchat.com/ before logging in. Im not sure if turns on the ident server before or after connecting to an irc server, but you can try it.

tonyyeb
06-21-2003, 06:58 PM
Thanks guys for all your help. I came up with a solution.... I removed myself (more like my pocket pc) from the check list on the server!! And my first web site to check whether it worked was pocketpcthoughts.com and it looked great!!

Thanks again

Chris

davidspalding
06-22-2003, 04:37 AM
Occurred to me during a semi-delirious state that maybe you could run something like Webwasher on your desktop PC, which is a proxy, and go through your own proxy for WWW access..

Naturally, a Draconion IT Dept. won't want you running your own proxy on your desktop. ,:)

But all's well that ends well....