Pre-Order iPAQ 5555 from Amazon.com for $599 US [Archive]

Jason Dunn

06-02-2003, 07:51 PM

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?tag=jasondunn-20&path=tg/detail/-/B00009RL1Y/qid%3D1054575870/sr%3D8-1' target='_blank'>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/r...575870/sr%3D8-1</a> </div>Amazon.com has an <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?tag=jasondunn-20&path=tg/detail/-/B00009RL1Y/qid%3D1054575870/sr%3D8-1">ordering page for the iPAQ 5555</a>, which according to the Amazon.com item page, is due for release on June 30th, 2003. $599 seems like a much more competative price than what we're using to seeing from HP on the 54xx line, so this is welcome news. [Affiliate] Update: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009RL1X/jasondunn-20%253Cbr%2520/%253E/jasondunn-20">The HP iPAQ 2215</a> is also listed at Amazon and will be available in approximately 326 hours, or two weeks for those of you not in iPAQ countdown mode. ;) <img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/2003/20030602-ipaq2200.gif" /> iPAQ 2215 When you get to the Amazon site, be sure to click on the image. They have 5 really nice images that give you some great details. The price is $399. There are no details yet on the specs, so I don't know if this includes bluetooth, what the processor speed is, etc. The <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?tag=jasondunn-20&path=tg/detail/-/B00009RL1W/jasondunn-20">HP iPAQ 1945</a> is also listed for $299. That is a great price. We do know that this is the full meal deal - bluetooth, SDIO, 14MB file store, 266MHz Samsung processor. It is showing a July 7 ship date, or roughly 830 hours. All links are affiliate links.

WillyG

06-02-2003, 08:00 PM

Does the new flagship come with PPC2003?

Jason Dunn

06-02-2003, 08:06 PM

Does the new flagship come with PPC2003?

No one has one yet, so it's impossible to say. Yet. :wink:

entropy1980

06-02-2003, 08:16 PM

Well June 30 falls in line with the "rumored" June 23 release date...draw from it what you want , by the way here are some screenshots of 2003 for the interested parties...
http://www.inges-pda.net/blogg.html
:D

lurch

06-02-2003, 08:22 PM

No one has one yet, so it's impossible to say. Yet. :wink:
I have one... but oh wait, I'm not allowed to say anything...... so sorry!!! ;)

EDIT: Okay, so technically I don't have one anymore -- had to give it back :byebye: :bawl:

whydidnt

06-02-2003, 08:30 PM

Hmm, The 2215 is also listed @ $399.00 with a release date of 6/16/03!! :D

I wish I new for sure if this model would include BT or not as I am ready to buy now! :confused totally:

Wonder if these guys will be in short supply, as it seems all new IPAQs are upon release.

WillyG

06-02-2003, 08:30 PM

http://www.inges-pda.net/blogg.html
:D

Wow, lots of PPC2003 info there. Wonder how he got his hands on it?
Loox like Inge is from my spot on the earth too. Thanx for the link entopy1980

whydidnt

06-02-2003, 08:33 PM

Also, the 1945 is listed @ $299 and a 7/7 release date.

I wonder if these are valid dates, or if Amazon is just guessing? :?:

Jacob

06-02-2003, 08:33 PM

The 2215 is also listed somewhere at amazon too...for $399.

Crystal Eitle

06-02-2003, 08:37 PM

Hmm, The 2215 is also listed @ $399.00 with a release date of 6/16/03!! :D

:beer: :multi: :angel: :popcorn: :Fade-color :bday: :alfdance: :rainbowafro: :way to go: :ladysman:

WillyG

06-02-2003, 08:38 PM

No one has one yet, so it's impossible to say. Yet. :wink:

Grr, Jason *finds a push-pin and sticks jason - hopes for a leak* :wink:
I admire Microsoft for beeing able to keep this so secretive. Cant think of any MS products before PPC2003, that has been so well protected before release. What is the wording in that NDA? "Those who break................will be shot the next morning before sunrise, by the Microsoft Activation team :lol:
Ok ill lurk on - back on topic

lurch

06-02-2003, 08:39 PM

Hmm, The 2215 is also listed @ $399.00 with a release date of 6/16/03!! :D
They just KNEW the 16th is my birthday.... :mrgreen:

aroma

06-02-2003, 08:45 PM

WillyG: I agree. I can't think of any other MS product that has been this secret for this long...

entropy1980

06-02-2003, 08:54 PM

Wow, lots of PPC2003 info there. Wonder how he got his hands on it?
Loox like Inge is from my spot on the earth too. Thanx for the link entopy1980
No problem, according to him Ipaq 39xx, and 54xx will be able to be upgraded and he's pretty sure Dell will be offering an upgrade too....

kidA

06-02-2003, 08:57 PM

so how long before hp tells amazon to take these down? :D
and looking at the pricing of this and the 1945, the 1930, if it's real, is going to have to be like $249! what a great price for a sweet PDA.
and i wonder if this is the higher end 2200 or what. if it's the higher end one, then hp will have an awful lot of devices crammed within a $150 price range. interesting...

Jason Dunn

06-02-2003, 09:09 PM

WillyG: I agree. I can't think of any other MS product that has been this secret for this long...

The reason is, in my opinion, that when Microsoft talks about Longhorn coming out in 2005, it doesn't stop people from buying computers today. Consumers know that software can be loaded onto hardware. With Pocket PCs, since they're closer to being appliances, Microsoft can't guarantee that 100% of the OEMs will offer OS upgrades. Microsoft gives the software to all the OEMs, but each OEM decides if it's worth offering the upgrade or not.

alex22

06-02-2003, 09:11 PM

This is great, can't help to get one of these :mrgreen:

Valil

06-02-2003, 09:13 PM

where can I buy one of these? I'm living in Canada and Amazon doesn't ship here.

Kati Compton

06-02-2003, 09:14 PM

I have one... but oh wait, I'm not allowed to say anything...... so sorry!!! ;)

EDIT: Okay, so technically I don't have one anymore -- had to give it back :byebye: :bawl:
See - you shouldn't have said anything.... ;)

lurch

06-02-2003, 09:24 PM

See - you shouldn't have said anything.... ;)
That's what I get for posting this while an HP rep was standing over my shoulder... :evil: :wink:

ricksfiona

06-02-2003, 09:45 PM

Wow, $599.99 for the 5555? That's $50 less than what I paid for my 3870. If the specs are what I heard, it will be really tempting. Let's see.... Vacation in Cuba for a week or a new Pocket PC???

Would someone post a link or tell me what the specs are exactly for the 5555?

Jason Dunn

06-02-2003, 10:04 PM

Would someone post a link or tell me what the specs are exactly for the 5555?

Considering that HP hasn't released any specs yet, I doubt you'll find anything with the exact specs.

Will T Smith

06-02-2003, 10:11 PM

delfuhd

06-02-2003, 10:16 PM

w00t so the h2215 does have an XScale processor? and not that samsung processor.. I was talking to a buddy of mine who's works with microsoft and has seen 2003, and we were talking about ppc2003 and since it's built around the Xscale processor, wouldn't it be ideal to put one into the new models, namely the new 1900's? Oh well, I just need to save up some extra money to purchase an h2200; the 1900's are awesome but I need that cf support. Finally someone smacked Compaq on the head and woke them up; no more expansions!

Jason Dunn

06-02-2003, 10:18 PM

Does the new flagship come with PPC2003?

No one has one yet, so it's impossible to say. Yet. :wink:

Of course it will. Once Microsoft releases a new OS version, they don't sell OEM licenses for old versions. Yes, they will be 2003.

Has it occurred to you, my dear blunt friend, that due to my NDA I can't actually confirm certain information? :roll:

Dazbot

06-02-2003, 10:26 PM

Jason,

When does your NDA run out then? Or can't you disclose that either? :)

entropy1980

06-02-2003, 10:30 PM

cesarfong

06-02-2003, 10:34 PM

all jackets will be compatible with h22XX??

Regards

César

ozen

06-02-2003, 10:36 PM

I hope that the new OS is gonna be cool. And i hope that this is gonna be the year of the PPC with all the cool hardware like SDIO and the high capacity CF and SD cards.

Jason Dunn

06-02-2003, 10:37 PM

When does your NDA run out then? Or can't you disclose that either? :)

There is a press embargo date on Pocket PC 2003 that will run out eventually, but until it does, I can't say anything more. But, when the time comes, we hope to have some really great information for you all. :-)

06-02-2003, 10:51 PM

Oh my God. I want these 3 PPC´s... it´s a hard choice... if the 5555 comes with 128 mb, ppc 2003, wifi, bt, and who know what else... but on the other side, the 1945 will be so small... and finally BT and SDIO. And for the same price that the 1910? and the 5555 will be cheaper than the 5450 (remember, the 3970 was $750) now that´s good news!!! 8O 8O 8) :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Kati Compton

06-02-2003, 10:54 PM

Dermot81

06-02-2003, 10:58 PM

I'm willing to trade my left kidney for an H2200...Plz, I need one now!

I can't waaaait!

Fine damnit, I'll through in a lung as well!

thomas1973

06-02-2003, 11:01 PM

all jackets will be compatible with h22XX??

Regards

César
Nope. The 22xx is way to small :mrgreen: . It has about the same footprint as the 1900-series, but is as thick as the 5400/3900 series. So it's small, but a bit chubby...

Thomas.

Santa Fe

06-02-2003, 11:09 PM

Brighthand has a bit more "information" at http://www.brighthand.com/article/New_iPAQs_Close

Foo Fighter

06-03-2003, 12:07 AM

OMG!!! This is really tempting. I'd still like to see some reviews of these new products before I lay down the plastic, but I am SOOOOOOO tempted to pre-order now. :|

Mbai2

06-03-2003, 12:22 AM

Anyone know if the 2215 listed at Amazon has BT and 400Mhz Xscale or is it the lower speed model without BT? If it is in fact the model with BT and the faster processor, I'm going to pre-order right now! :lol:

Jacob

06-03-2003, 12:24 AM

I wouldn't pre-order this at all.

You'll be able to get it sooner from CompUSA or BestBuy if you just go there on the release date.

Amazon will only ship it to you on that date... it won't get to you on that date.

Foo Fighter

06-03-2003, 12:31 AM

I wouldn't pre-order this at all.
You'll be able to get it sooner from CompUSA or BestBuy if you just go there on the release date.

Yes, but then I have to pay sales tax. Plus Amazon offers free shipping. Can't beat that.

Foo Fighter

06-03-2003, 12:33 AM

You know..another thing to keep in mind, we don't know what else may be coming down the pipe this month. Toshiba and Dell may have something up their sleeves we haven't seen yet.

Reinaldo

06-03-2003, 12:35 AM

Hey, just wondering? But is it a coincidence that all of these iPAQs have bluetooth? Even the 1945? :?:

Maybe I am being a master of the obvious as ususal but what if HP's future accessories had to do with Bluetooth? A blutooth keyboard, headphones, etc...

I sure hope I am right.

Foo Fighter

06-03-2003, 12:37 AM

More than likely this will tie in with other HP products, particularly their printer line (that's just a guess though).

Duncan

06-03-2003, 12:54 AM

Hey, just wondering? But is it a coincidence that all of these iPAQs have bluetooth? Even the 1945?

More likely it simply doesn't make much sense to leave it out anymore. Bluetooth enabled mobile products are exploding in number with few mobile phones (GPRS anyway) being released without it, on a recent explore I found no fewer than 17 BT headsets, there are at least three stereo BT headsets (capable of handling MP3/WMA but not WAV), two new printers and at least one portable keyboard (I'd bet many more will be announced soon) coming this year - all of which means that leaving a BT module out is a false economy...

You know..another thing to keep in mind, we don't know what else may be coming down the pipe this month. Toshiba and Dell may have something up their sleeves we haven't seen yet.

Yes. I rather think that if HP bring something out - so will others. We should see a rash of dual wireless devices (FSC have one planned, Toshiba surely must do as well, Dell won't let HP have a clear lead if they can help it...), middle range BT enabled devices - and of course GPRS devices...

I wouldn't recommend anyone rushing to upgrade until a few more manufacturers have announced plans...

Paul P

06-03-2003, 01:06 AM

Anyone notice the little indicator light on the cradle for the 2200?

kagayaki1

06-03-2003, 02:04 AM

Scott R

06-03-2003, 02:18 AM

I must admit that I'm tempted by the thought of a Bluetooth 1900-series (though definitely pessimistic about how the Samsung chip will perform). That said, the leaks that are coming out about PPC 2003 are extremely disappointing. Still have to scroll down a page just to get to a home phone number in the Contacts app when SIP is visible? Still no built-in task manager? I'm even shocked (though not personally disappointed, just shocked) that MS didn't even bother to update the GUI to look more XP-ish. Still, PIE is supposed to support more web standards which is good. If the rumors of landscape support turn out to be true, it could be good enough even for me. But I tend to doubt that the landscape thing will pan out since I don't think the guy from that other web site (where he's posting screenshots and info left and right) has confirmed it, has he?

Quite frankly, I'm wondering how much interest Microsoft has in this at all. The original PPC launch was a big "to-do." The PPC 2002 launch, if I recall, was fairly well announced as well (though undeservedly, IMO, as the upgrade broke almost as much as it improved upon). Yet here comes PPC 2003 after how long? (a long time) And while online retailers are already offering peeks at the devices, there's nary a peep from Microsoft. It's looking like June 23rd may, indeed, be the big day. If that's the case, shouldn't there be some official announcement by now that Microsoft will be announcing something special on such-and-such a day? (yes, that's a confusing sentence)

I won't go into the annoying aspect of whole NDA thing. Non-PPC sites are leaking real info and rumor while the foremost PPC site around (yes, here) largely ignores it all due to the NDAs, MVP statusi, or whatever. The best we can do is Janak (just about the only non-MVP around here) who can occassionally speculate along with the rest of us.

Rant over.

Regarding the high-end model. Sorry, $50 cheaper than the previously way overpriced previous high-end model is still way overpriced, IMO. As for the CF slot on the 2200-series, it's nice, but is it nice enough to pay a premium over the smaller 1900-series? Of course, the 1900-series strikes me as a bit of an intentionally-hobbled creature where they've prevented you from adding stowaway keyboards and such so as to, presumably, get the power users to spend extra on the 2200 (and up) series. Crazy if you ask me. The Palm V was sold at a premium and eaten up by the fatter-wallet business types because it was small. IMO, the 2200-series would be their low-end model and the 1900 series (with fully equipped serial port) would share the high-end slot with the decked-out 5000-series if the world made sense.

Scott

beq

06-03-2003, 02:23 AM

Jacob

06-03-2003, 02:23 AM

I'm happy it doesn't look more XP-ish.

ANy XP system I use always gets turned to "Classic" appearance as the first thing I do - the system also is faster that way.

EvilOne

06-03-2003, 02:27 AM

I'm happy it doesn't look more XP-ish.

I agree, just what we need, faster PDAs that are slowed down by GUI bloat. Ugh.

Scott R

06-03-2003, 02:30 AM

Will T Smith

06-03-2003, 02:36 AM

IBM so needs to start making the ThinkPalm (err, ThinkPocket) Pocket PC line. The Thinkpad T40p (G1U) notebook is just excellent (but costs 4 grand!).

EDIT: It's so nice to come home to this news after having to cope w/ Sobig.C today :)

This has about 0% chance of happening.

If IBM releases a handheld, it will be based on Lineo, the same OS as the Sharp Zaurus. The license on PocketPC OS is pretty killer. A lineo branded handheld saves IBM the licensing fee and ties nicely into their Linux strategy.

Crystal Eitle

06-03-2003, 02:47 AM

Yes. I rather think that if HP bring something out - so will others. We should see a rash of dual wireless devices (FSC have one planned, Toshiba surely must do as well, Dell won't let HP have a clear lead if they can help it...), middle range BT enabled devices - and of course GPRS devices...

The new high-end Axim is supposed to have Bluetooth AND WiFi built in. Not to mention dual slots.

beq

06-03-2003, 02:51 AM

This has about 0% chance of happening.

If IBM releases a handheld, it will be based on Lineo, the same OS as the Sharp Zaurus. The license on PocketPC OS is pretty killer. A lineo branded handheld saves IBM the licensing fee and ties nicely into their Linux strategy.

Yeah but then I'd have no reason to frequent PPCThoughts et. al anymore :( Hmm, basing your PDA purchase on the enthusiast site, what a concept, my head's spinning...

ipaq38vette

06-03-2003, 02:54 AM

When PPC2003 is released, can I go to Bestbuy and buy it or do I have to download it from the OEM, or even worse, by mail? How much do you think it will cost?

DaleReeck

06-03-2003, 03:00 AM

June 30th...hmmm. Has anyone considered that the June 30th release date is just a guesstimate? You know, they don't know when it will be released, so they just stuck the last day of the month in. Then, on June 30th, they change the date again and so on. I'm not saying this is the case ;) But, I'll believe it when I see it...

myung

06-03-2003, 03:10 AM

Ha ... the look of 2200 is not that bad, after all.

Mbai2

06-03-2003, 03:20 AM

Jacob

06-03-2003, 03:29 AM

I'm happy it doesn't look more XP-ish.Note that I didn't say that I was disappointed that it didn't look more XP-ish, just that I was surprised that it didn't. MS tends to (whether you agree with it or not) add about 70% sizzle and 30% steak with each new release. With PPC 2002, it was the skinnable Today screen.

You seem to think I was trying to argue/disagree with you? I guess someone can't express their own opinion without implication of argument...

Just saying I'm glad they didnt :D

Anyways, usually when I hear someone say they're "shocked they didn't bother" to do something it tends to imply dissappointment.

Frankly, I love windows XP. I think it is an improvement over 2K and especially over the 9X series.. steak and sizzle all combined :D

Janak Parekh

06-03-2003, 04:31 AM

The best we can do is Janak (just about the only non-MVP around here) who can occassionally speculate along with the rest of us.
Hey, don't forget that we have Crystal too as a non-MVP. I don't feel lonely no more. ;)

(In any case, I generally avoiding speculating as well, because if for some reason my opinions are construed to be those of the site, Jason could get in trouble. ;) Besides, you know everything I know -- the guys don't tell me anything. :mecry:)

In any case, Palm does this too, so it's not particularly unique to Microsoft. The site gets various benefits, so you take the good with the bad.

--janak

Gamma Ray

06-03-2003, 04:33 AM

Jason now that you have done this several years, do you think the NDA is worth it? Sure you get an advance on many things, but you can't talk about anything, even if someone who has not signed an NDA publishes the full nine yards. You can't even intervene here if someone posts completely wrong information. So I'm wondering does an NDA do more harm than good from a publisher's standpoint or is the information loop so closed that you wouldn't be able to dig for information even if you didn't have to deal with the NDA?

dreampages

06-03-2003, 04:35 AM

This is quite interesting. I met with HP marketing people today at the 2003 Sprint Users Conference here in Dallas this afternoon. They said they couldn't comment on the specs of the new H2xxx, H4xxx (first time I've heard this one), or the H55xx units until they are officially accounced in a couple of months.

Be interesting to see if Amazon really gets them. They aren't listed at HP's Partner Direct site, Ingram Micro, or Tech Data. Maybe a special deal? Be surprised is Amazon sells them before HP officially announces them in "a couple of months".

I'll hit them up again tomorrow at the conference.

Larry

Ed Hansberry

06-03-2003, 04:55 AM

That said, the leaks that are coming out about PPC 2003 are extremely disappointing. Still have to scroll down a page just to get to a home phone number in the Contacts app when SIP is visible?
Yeah. That'll do it for me if that nasty rumor is true. Back to my paper Franklin Planner! :roll:

pschultz

06-03-2003, 06:05 AM

They said they couldn't comment on the specs of the new H2xxx, H4xxx (first time I've heard this one), or the H55xx units until they are officially accounced in a couple of months.
I read somewhere that HP was skipping over the H4xxx series because the number 4 is unluckly in many Asian countries.

phantom8

06-03-2003, 06:18 AM

This is quite interesting. I met with HP marketing people today at the 2003 Sprint Users Conference here in Dallas this afternoon. They said they couldn't comment on the specs of the new H2xxx, H4xxx (first time I've heard this one), or the H55xx units until they are officially accounced in a couple of months.

Two months is too long for me to wait. I am slowly squeezing every last bit out of my current PPC (an iPaq 3135) but the truth is that I need a new PDA pretty quickly. All I ask out of a PPC is that it takes compact flash, has a full-size keyboard as an accessory (like the Stowaways), and doesn't cost a fortune (I can't afford the top-of-the line PDAs). I'm hoping that the iPaq 2200 will fill in this gap, but at this point, does anyone even know if the 2200 will work with the Stowaway keyboards???

Abba Zabba

06-03-2003, 09:13 AM

:shocked!: I am SOOOOOOOOOO excited. I have already gotten the approval from the powers that be that I can get myself a new PPC. And since right now I am ppc less (dropped it on concrete last saturday morning while getting out of the car :oops: ) this is coming in just in time. I can't fight the urge to not pre-order...... :microwave:

mmidgley

06-03-2003, 02:47 PM

Is the new 55xx series listed with the FCC like the 19xx and 22xx models? If not, that seems like it could indicate that model's release date will be later than sooner.

Would it be a good guess that the 55xx will use the same removable battery as the 54xx?

m. [still using H3650/PPC2002]

Paragon

06-03-2003, 03:15 PM

They said they couldn't comment on the specs of the new H2xxx, H4xxx (first time I've heard this one), or the H55xx units until they are officially accounced in a couple of months.

You may remeber that before the article quoting an HP VP that they were not going to develop an Ipaq/phone device, that there was an announcement made stating that HTC had won the contract back to manufacture a Pocket PC Phone Edition device for HP after loosing it to another company, who in the end could not come get the job done. It was reported in that announcement that the device would be an H4000 series..... Do you think maybe someone just made a rather big slip of the tongue and let the cat out of the bag?

Dave

Ed Hansberry

06-03-2003, 03:17 PM

Is the new 55xx series listed with the FCC like the 19xx and 22xx models? If not, that seems like it could indicate that model's release date will be later than sooner.
It could also be that the 5500 doesn't need FCC approval as the 5400 already has it. If the 5500 is substantially similar on a hardware level, at least from a BT/802.11b standpoint, FCC (re)approval isn't necessary. The 2200 and wireless for the 1900 is new.

Given Amazon has the 5500 listed for early July, I'd say sooner rather than later. :D

bdegroodt

06-03-2003, 05:07 PM

Is it me, or is anyone else not able to see any pictures at Amazon?

EvilOne

06-03-2003, 05:15 PM

If you are referring to the 2215, it is just you. But you can see the pictures here also...

HERE (http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=d98d5b0c334b753932e6a67bf0711730&threadid=80056)

Or

HERE (http://www.xscale.de/modules.php?op=modload&name=My_eGallery&file=index&do=showgall&gid=31)

mmidgley

06-03-2003, 05:16 PM

It could also be that the 5500 doesn't need FCC approval as the 5400 already has it. Given Amazon has the 5500 listed for early July, I'd say sooner rather than later. :D

Sooner will certainly keep me a happy consumer, as my amazon pre-order is in. Its been 3 years since my last (and only) PocketPC purchase. Back then I made my order in April and had the iPAQ by July 1st (DOA, but that's a different story). I hope it goes better/faster this year. I hope amazon doesn't do the dishonest date listing/sliding as mobileplanet did. I can understand delays in supply, but mobileplanet didn't even try to give me a straight answer--it was always 2 weeks out (not ever more than that, according to them).

I know there are PPC2002 devices out right now that have the PXA255, but do they have the faster memory bus (that we are hoping the 555x comes with) as well? I wonder about that when Intel just stops shipping the PXA250, but OEMs don't redesign their boards, just pop in the newer CPU... Just trying to get a feel for where this unit will come in at as far as performance.

m. :bangin:

Dermot81

06-03-2003, 05:48 PM

No the devices currently shipping with the PXA255 processors do not have the faster memory :(

We can only hope the new HP devices all have both a 200mhz cpu fsb and a 200mhz memory bus.

Christian

06-03-2003, 08:13 PM

Hmm, The 2215 is also listed @ $399.00 with a release date of 6/16/03!! :D

I'm afraid the posted release date has been pushed back to the 23rd. Let's hope it doesn't slip further...

huangzhinong

06-04-2003, 04:18 AM

The hp h2210 is for sale now in ecost. I am a little bit dispointed that the RAM is only 64Mb.

http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?dpno=190755

freeway680

06-04-2003, 04:33 AM

this is a 2210 so what is the hp 2215 at amazon.com for $400 then? Could this be the 128mb version? man, this is confusing arhhhhh

Scott R

06-04-2003, 05:35 AM

The hp h2210 is for sale now in ecost.That's actually been there for a little while now (at least a week). Their little truck icon tells us that it aint shipping yet.

Scott

ricoks

06-04-2003, 08:35 AM

Does anyone know, or have heard, that the new 2200 series will have the same i/o plug for headset/mic like the 54/5500 series????
This is a big improvement, I think, over the standard mic, especially if you are looking to use it to replace a mini-cassette recorder. I look to record often people that are teaching, talking in a group of like 25-50 people that the mic is sometimes not the best quality.
Makes a great replacement for the other recording options (cassette, digital, etc.)

Otherwise, this looks like a great device that will fill a lot of voids for people, (dual slots, and relatively small formfactor).

Ryan 8)

Mike Temporale

06-04-2003, 04:41 PM

eCost lists the OS Type as "Pocket PC 2002" and then beside Software Details they say "Microsoft Pocket PC 2003" :roll:

I will be purchasing one of these new iPAQs, but not until there is a clear listing of what features each model has.

Kati Compton

06-04-2003, 04:59 PM

I would assume they have PPC2003.

trapper

06-04-2003, 09:13 PM

Does anyone know, or have heard, that the new 2200 series will have the same i/o plug for headset/mic like the 54/5500 series????

I read in one of the first 2200 reports that it will include the mic plug, however I can't find the link. I agree, this would turn the device into a fantastic recorder.

nosmohtac

06-04-2003, 09:53 PM

This is all very exciting, but also quite disappointing. I will concede that the 1910 was a beautiful pocket pc and set itself apart from the others, but I was a happy hp customer with my jornada.

They made such wonderful improvements from the 540 series to the 560 series, and then they drop the line and start making models that don't use the ipaq sleeves, but are nothing like the jornada line. I would much rather have the new and improved jornada over the 2200. Throw wireless in it and a sd slot and use it to compete with Dell's price point.

Enderet

06-05-2003, 09:30 AM

These links are not working anymore.... maybe somebody should update them if they can :?: I tried...but i had no luck

Mike Temporale

06-05-2003, 06:12 PM

These links are not working anymore.... maybe somebody should update them if they can :?: I tried...but i had no luck

Looks like Amazon has pulled them. I had added all 3 to my wish list, but I just went to check and they have disappeared from my list.

The one on eCost is gone also. Looks like HP got wind, and shut them down. :(

mmidgley

06-07-2003, 02:11 PM

:?: i searched both amazon and ecost and found no mention of new ipaq models now. both microsoft and hp probably prefer it that way until an official announcement comes.

amazon still lists my 5555 pre-order with the same delivery estimate (july 9-july 10).

m.

Crystal Eitle

06-07-2003, 06:18 PM

I would much rather have the new and improved jornada over the 2200. Throw wireless in it and a sd slot and use it to compete with Dell's price point.

I was so excited about the 2200, but then I tried an old Jornada. Two words: Jog Dial. If the 2200 had a jog dial it would be the perfect machine; as it stands, I'm waiting to see what Dell comes up with.

Jason Dunn

06-07-2003, 10:56 PM

The license on PocketPC OS is pretty killer.

Will, it's about $8 I think (maybe $10 max), so in terms of the overall cost, it's a fairly small fraction. :roll: The license is even cheaper for the "light" OS version too, so it's even less of an issue on the low-cost devices. Now, certainly "free" is always better than $8/device, but nothing is truly free...if you don't pay $$$ up front, you end up spending resources fixing/debugging and whatnot.

mmidgley

06-08-2003, 09:36 PM

that is not a bad price at all. makes me think about the $30 i spent on my iPAQ 2002 upgrade CD... either it was a big money maker (like accessories is for hardware sales) or they had to spend a lot in testing it.

what is the likely date for the PPC2003 announcement from MS? (not a question for those doing the NDA thing)

m.

maximus

06-10-2003, 02:03 AM

Throw wireless in it and a sd slot and use it to compete with Dell's price point.

I dont think either HP or Compaq will ever be capable of doing that. :wink: Took a LOT of inventory management wizards to shape the current JIT production at Dell. During my internship with them back in 1996, it was really an amazing scene just to see how they handle the inventory; they have no idle inventories 8O.

nosmohtac

06-10-2003, 04:34 AM

Maximus,

I would have to disagree with you when it comes to the pocket pc. I haven't worked for Dell, but I know a little about their JIT marketing. I don't think that they are able to use JIT to the same degree with their pocket pc, because they aren't making it. It is being made by the same company that makes the ipaq.

maximus

06-10-2003, 01:25 PM

They also dont make other stuffs (like the toshiba 1.8 inch PCMCIA HDD or SD cards, or Canon ixus 3, etc.) ... but still, they can sell it lower than other online shops 8O.

I purchased the 1.8 inch PCMCIA from Dell US for $120 ($145 with a $25 rebate) back in march. The best price I got from other vendor is $152 from tigersdirect. True, it might be excess inventory they are letting go cheap. But if you look closely at the design of the axim and it's accessories, you will notice that it has less parts. They dont have CF sleeves, no CF plus sleeves, no GPRS mantle, no dual PCMCIA sleeve, no nothing. The most common Dell accessories are wifi CF and additional batteries.

Further, if you look at ipaqs, they have 3 different stylus model, Dell only has one. When they released X7 or X3, I bet they are gonna use X5's stylus to lower inventory cost. Now lets talk about battery packs. Ipaq has at least 5 types. 37xx regular, 37xx hi capacity, 38+54xx regular, 38+54 hi capacity, slim battery on sleeves, etc. ... Dell only has 2. And I bet they are going to use X5 batteries in X7 or X3, perhaps with different color to match X7 and X3's body color. THat goes the same for the cradle, serial port, adapters, etc.

Yes, the device might be made by 3rd party, but when Dell decided to oursource the manufacturing, i am sure they also transfer some of their JIT processes to the vendor.