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Spenser
05-27-2003, 06:57 AM
While I am still looking for a one-button-solution, I came across the excellent program DVDx. Input: Any DVD. Output: compressed MPG. But there is a glitch. The program reports "Video Buffer Underrun" and I should increase the video bitrate (which makes the resulting file Much too big (more than 1 gig) or I should correct the padding rate (not possible in version 2.1/2.2 but in 2.0)). Here the problem starts. Nobody can tell me which values to use. Can YOU?

dh
05-27-2003, 02:28 PM
I looked at their website and DVDx looks interesting. I have not tried it so I don't know about the settings.
Best thing might be to play around with a small video file until you get something that works.
Using VirtualDub gets file sizes of less than 200MB for a full movie, so if DVDx can't get to that better not to use it.

minidba
05-29-2003, 01:06 PM
I've played around with DVDx a bit, and have yet to get it to work with anything but the default settings. What you can do (although at a bit of a loss of quality) is re-encode the resulting mpg using Windows Media Encoder or Movie Maker, and end up with a small wmv file. I did this with the training scene from the Matrix, and achieved passable results (although I still haven't figured out why it 'stretched' the image a little...must be something wrong with how it handled the aspect ratio). If anyone else has had better luck tweaking the settings, I'd certainly be interested, too!

Ekkie Tepsupornchai
05-29-2003, 07:20 PM
Using VirtualDub gets file sizes of less than 200MB for a full movie, so if DVDx can't get to that better not to use it.
My thoughts exactly. I'm a little skeptical of any video conversion utility that ends up giving you MPG video. In my experience, DivX gives you far better video and sound quality than MPG under equivalent resolutions and file sizes.

Spenser
05-29-2003, 10:31 PM
My thoughts exactly. I'm a little skeptical of any video conversion utility that ends up giving you MPG video. In my experience, DivX gives you far better video and sound quality than MPG under equivalent resolutions and file sizes.
Right. But DVDx can also produce DivX ! I am still experimenting with the different possibilities. But I seem to need VirtualDub, too. DVDx produces an AVI-file, PocketMVP can't read. Sending the whole movie through VirtualDub afterwards does the trick. So it's not a one-button- but a two-button-solution. Which is not bad either.
If you are interested, I will post the best settings.

Ekkie Tepsupornchai
05-29-2003, 10:57 PM
Right. But DVDx can also produce DivX ! I am still experimenting with the different possibilities. But I seem to need VirtualDub, too. DVDx produces an AVI-file, PocketMVP can't read. Sending the whole movie through VirtualDub afterwards does the trick. So it's not a one-button- but a two-button-solution. Which is not bad either.
If you are interested, I will post the best settings.
Ah... sounds like a Gordian Knot type of solution which also provides an interface which relies on Virtual Dub.

Do you know if the AVI creation is a two-conversion process? Meaning, does it convert first to MPG, and then from MPG-to-DivX? Or does it go straight from the DVD VOB files straight to DivX?

If PocketMVP can't read the file, then either it's using settings that aren't compatible or it's using a later DivX CODEC not supported by PocketMVP. AFAIK, PMVP supports up to DivX 5.02 (possibly 5.03). Last I checked, the most current current CODEC was at 5.05.

Spenser
05-30-2003, 05:03 AM
Ah... sounds like a Gordian Knot type of solution which also provides an interface which relies on Virtual Dub.
No. It doesn't really provide such an interface. It was only me who thought that I'd need it, because PocketMVP couldn't understand DVDx.

Do you know if the AVI creation is a two-conversion process? Meaning, does it convert first to MPG, and then from MPG-to-DivX? Or does it go straight from the DVD VOB files straight to DivX?
It goes straight from the DVD VOB files to DivX.

If PocketMVP can't read the file, then either it's using settings that aren't compatible or it's using a later DivX CODEC not supported by PocketMVP. AFAIK, PMVP supports up to DivX 5.02 (possibly 5.03). Last I checked, the most current current CODEC was at 5.05.
Thank you for that info. I'll check with Ver. 2.0 of DVDx, which is in my possession too.

Spenser
05-31-2003, 03:43 PM
If PocketMVP can't read the file, then either it's using settings that aren't compatible or it's using a later DivX CODEC not supported by PocketMVP. AFAIK, PMVP supports up to DivX 5.02 (possibly 5.03). Last I checked, the most current current CODEC was at 5.05.
In the meantime I checked which codecs can be used:
I used DVDx 2.2 with DivX Codec 5.05 and then transferred the video to VirtualDub (for the reason: see above) and used again the DivX Codec 5.05 and to my surprize PMVP could play it.
But still I was not able to play the video before transferring it to VirtualDub.
Has anyone used DVD2AVI and VirtualDub and came to the same result?
If yes, we have at least a two button solution.

maximus
06-03-2003, 09:08 AM
I experience the exact same thing, on some movie titles, DVDx crashed a lot on both systems of mine (opteron and pentium 4 on 850e). But on other title, it works fine. Mostly it crashed on movies with a lot of graphic rendering. I dont think it is buffer underrun though, since the padding and bitrate has been adjusted for larger stream.

I experimented with DVDx 1.6 (the freeware version), have not tried the commercial version yet. Divx is the platform that I am using now. But when I am converting movies to VCD/SVCD (so that I can write it to CDs for my player), I use tmpgenc or xmpeg+panasonic mpeg plugin. It is also a one step process, directly from VOB to mpeg.

mcasanova
06-05-2003, 06:50 PM
Haven't tried it. Just a question: how long does it take to convert a full movie to divx with this software?

mcasanova
06-10-2003, 10:47 PM
Haven't convert a full lenght movie yet, but in case anyone interested this software is awsome to extract the audio soundtrack, that's what I made with my Roger Waters DVD and the result, after converted from avi to MP3 is worth a CD