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Brad Adrian
05-25-2003, 09:00 AM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.menc.org/guides/remember/onthisday.html' target='_blank'>http://www.menc.org/guides/remember/onthisday.html</a><br /><br /></div>If you're living in a part of the world that observes Memorial Day on Monday, May 26, here is something that might make your remembrance a little more meaningful.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/adrian/arlington.jpg" /><br /><br />"The National Association for Music Education is partnering with The White House Commission on Remembrance to promote the National Moment of Remembrance and the new Memorial Day anthem, 'On This Day.' Americans worldwide are asked to pause at 3:00 p.m. local time on Memorial Day (May 26) as an act of national unity, remembrance, and rededication to the ideals upon which our nation was founded."<br /><br />If you would like to download and/or listen to the new anthem or read the lyrics, you can do so <a href="http://www.menc.org/guides/remember/onthisday.html">here</a>.<br /><br />Whether or not we as individuals support military service, I think it's important to pause in thanks to those who have given their lives for the sake of our freedom. I really like the new anthem and hope it becomes part of our remembrance tradition.

Ekkie Tepsupornchai
05-25-2003, 01:58 PM
Thanks Brad. I wish the media would make more noise about something about these kinds of things. Regardless of whether our US residents (citizens or not) were for or against our recent activities, I think we should be thankful for the opportunities & freedoms that we have, which were made possible by those men/women who, throughout our young history, have willingly sacrificed their lives for those freedoms.

Unreal32
05-25-2003, 02:33 PM
That's the worst attempt at an anthem I have ever heard. Sounds like a cross between Bette Midler singing "The Wind Beneath My Wings" and one of the people who lost in the tryouts for American Idol. AAAUuuuuugh... make it stop!!! :pukeface:

Keystone
05-25-2003, 06:53 PM
I know that this post will be unpopular, but I enjoy this site as an international forum and unless recognition of all member nations' holidays are going to be posted, let's please keep the US myopia out of here and stick to technology related posts?

If recognition of war dead is going to be posted then why not stick to the yearly and (at least for 'Western culture') more globally recognised date of November 11? That's international, while Memorial Day is a US localised event to mark that nation's internal battles.

Please, keep news blurbs on sites like this more internationally inclusive rather than a non-tech-related political rah-rah for your home team.

Unreal32
05-25-2003, 07:38 PM
I know that this post will be unpopular, but I enjoy this site as an international forum and unless recognition of all member nations' holidays are going to be posted, let's please keep the US myopia out of here and stick to technology related posts?

If recognition of war dead is going to be posted then why not stick to the yearly and (at least for 'Western culture') more globally recognised date of November 11? That's international, while Memorial Day is a US localised event to mark that nation's internal battles.

Please, keep news blurbs on sites like this more internationally inclusive rather than a non-tech-related political rah-rah for your home team.

If the poster is a US poster, there's no reason why he shouldn't be able to post something "US-centric" on this forum. It's certainly not myopic to do so. Since when do you make the rules, anyway? :razz: We have lots of posts on this site about Japan-only technology items, and I've seen other posts celebrating or at least noting other international or US-based events. If you don't like an off-topic post, don't read it. I personally appreciated seeing the post. I guess my vote off-sets yours. So again, :razz:.

Oh, and in closing, :razz:.

Keystone
05-25-2003, 08:39 PM
Unreal32, is it too much to ask for an understanding and desire to keep localised political topics that have ZERO relation to technology off of the news page?

Unreal32, you're wrong on a couple of points as the referred posting was a NEWS item and not specifically forum related. Further, what forum on this suite is suitable to such a topic? None that I'm aware of.

I respect Brian Adrian's intentions, but I will repeat that they I feel them to be misplaced here.

To get into further detail, Brain wrote:

If you're living in a part of the world that observes Memorial Day on Monday, May 26,

Brian must be instructed that the USA is the only nation that I'm aware of having a national holiday to memorialise its dead from its civil war.

Would anyone here expect a news blurb on a British based tech site to memorlise US dead from its domestic warfare beginning over a century ago? I certainly wouldn't. Let's be inclusive rather than exclusive and please keep away from the localised and non-tech related political commentary and posts.

I will repeat that I enjoy this site and view it as international in nature rather than delivering rah-rah localisism for nationalistic propoganda.

CharlesWilcox
05-25-2003, 08:54 PM
8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

Keystone, your post reminds me of a t-shirt. "Life is **insert something trivial**. The rest is just details.

First. This post was not a news post. This site is not a NEWS only site (read the banner).

Second. Does this site have "member nations"? Did you mean member's national holidays? If you do, you should take the time to complete a profile, otherwise no one can know what nations our membership represents.

Last. When did it become so unpopular to rah-rah for the home team?

I believe that it is off-topic posts like this, and this, (http://pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8132&highlight=columbia) and this (http://pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11522&highlight=easter) that make this site a community, not just a place to get information.

Thanks Brad!
GBA

seeker
05-25-2003, 09:36 PM
Wonderfully written post to which I most heartily agree.
Thanks for taking the time to post a response.

8O

Ekkie Tepsupornchai
05-25-2003, 09:49 PM
Keystone,
In case you didn't know, you have the ability to filter out (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/index.php?filter=set) "OFF-TOPIC" thoughts when you visit the PPCT frontpage. You may want to excercise that right instead of asking the administrators to modify what they post.

Steven Cedrone
05-25-2003, 10:24 PM
I respect Brian Adrian's intentions...

Keystone,

His name is Brad not Brian...

Steve

Mitch D
05-25-2003, 10:29 PM
I know that this post will be unpopular, but I enjoy this site as an international forum and unless recognition of all member nations' holidays are going to be posted, let's please keep the US myopia out of here and stick to technology related posts?

If recognition of war dead is going to be posted then why not stick to the yearly and (at least for 'Western culture') more globally recognised date of November 11? That's international, while Memorial Day is a US localised event to mark that nation's internal battles.

Please, keep news blurbs on sites like this more internationally inclusive rather than a non-tech-related political rah-rah for your home team.

Keystone, I have no idea what part of the world your from but this site is more than just tech related stuff as you can see by reading some of the off topic areas. I am a Canadian and Memorial Day has nothing to do with me. But there is nothing wrong with a day that recognizes the contibutions of the Men and Woman of the Worlds Armed Forces. This one day may be for long dead US soldiers but they where men that gave there lives doing what they believed was right.

It is also a time for people to reflect on the Men and Woman that are now in harms way in one of the hot spots in the world, and to give thanks that they are willing to do what needs to be done. Stop worrying about what shows up on the front page! There is more important things to worry about in life.

:soapbox:

I'll get down off my soap box now.

Unreal32
05-25-2003, 10:34 PM
Keystone, you're also *wrong* on a couple of points. While Memorial Day (or as it was called originally, Decoration Day) was originally designated to honor fallen soldiers from America's civil war, it was eventually expanded to include the fallen American soliders from all wars, and is in fact an American tradition but is also observed at cemeteries where Americans are buried in France, Italy, England, Tunisia, the Netherlands, the Phillipines, Mexico, Luxembourg, and Belgium (and maybe others I'm not aware of). Gravesites of over 30,000 Americans from World War I and over 90,000 Americans from World War II in those OTHER countries are decorated with the American flag AND the flags of those other countries as well. While it is uniquely an American federal holiday, it's to remember fallen soliders who died in wars all around the globe... and very likely Americans defended *your* country at some point as well. Particularly if you're European it's entirely possible that you owe your current freedom to America's military. Americans died defending many other countries in wars, which is why we honor them on Memorial Day today. While I'm not saying YOU should honor America's fallen heroes, why don't you cut us some slack. :roll:


http://www.455th.ukpc.net/tomfeise/8thusaaf/memday01/005.jpg

QYV
05-25-2003, 11:12 PM
Speaking of "off-topic", LongRifle...

"Hmmm... Upgrades" Nero - Matrix ReLoaded

That's "Neo". :wink:

Imageman
05-26-2003, 12:21 AM
Keystone, you're also *wrong* on a couple of points. While Memorial Day (or as it was called originally, Decoration Day) was originally designated to honor fallen soldiers from America's civil war, it was eventually expanded to include the fallen American soliders from all wars, and is in fact an American tradition but is also observed at cemeteries where Americans are buried in France, Italy, England, Tunisia, the Netherlands, the Phillipines, Mexico, Luxembourg, and Belgium (and maybe others I'm not aware of). Gravesites of over 30,000 Americans from World War I and over 90,000 Americans from World War II in those OTHER countries are decorated with the American flag AND the flags of those other countries as well. While it is uniquely an American federal holiday, it's to remember fallen soliders who died in wars all around the globe... and very likely Americans defended *your* country at some point as well. Particularly if you're European it's entirely possible that you owe your current freedom to America's military. Americans died defending many other countries in wars, which is why we honor them on Memorial Day today. While I'm not saying YOU should honor America's fallen heroes, why don't you cut us some slack. :roll:


http://www.455th.ukpc.net/tomfeise/8thusaaf/memday01/005.jpg

I am glad you said this- as it was exactly what I was about to type. here here.

Mitch D
05-26-2003, 01:03 AM
Speaking of "off-topic", LongRifle...

"Hmmm... Upgrades" Nero - Matrix ReLoaded

That's "Neo". :wink:

Damn Typo Demons!!! LOL... Must be those damn Agents hacking into the system! :2gunfire:

Thanks QYV

ledowning
05-26-2003, 02:16 AM
As a former member of the Canadian Armed Forces, I see no problem with us recognizing Memorial Day, Rememberance Day or any other "national holiday" for allen members of the military in any service present or past. This website recognizes technology issues and many other topics and is international in flavor based on the amount of users posting each day from all parts of the world.

What is wrong with showing a little respect for personnel who gave their lives to provide us with the freedom to express ourselves without sending us off to jail for our opinions.

Lighten up!!!!! :mrgreen:

Jason Dunn
05-26-2003, 05:57 AM
I know that this post will be unpopular, but I enjoy this site as an international forum and unless recognition of all member nations' holidays are going to be posted, let's please keep the US myopia out of here and stick to technology related posts?

This site is made up of four people from the US, one from Canada, one from Sweden, and one from the Netherlands. So unless you can find a way for me to bring one representative of each country onto my team, a certain amount of "myopia" is going to occur. And four of our team members are also Christians, which means we have a tendency towards not posting on Christian holidays. It's impossible for us to take into account every country, religion, and creed around the world - so we come from where we are as people.

All in all, I'd encourage you to lighten up and get over it :lol: - or use the filter function (that's why we added it, so people would have no valid reason to complain). It's just a Web site after all. :mrgreen:

Jason Dunn
05-26-2003, 06:01 AM
I've locked this thread because I know where this is going to lead...

Politics and Pocket PC Thoughts do not mix well. :|