Japanese Streaming TV PDA Prototype

[Janak Parekh]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://akiba.sorobangeeks.com/e/news_2645.html' target='_blank'>http://akiba.sorobangeeks.com/e/news_2645.html</a><br /><br /></div>This is perhaps the scariest PDA prototype I've ever seen. 8O Nevertheless, it represents promising future wireless technologies.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/parekh/news/20030521-KDDI-TVPDA.jpg" /><br /><br />"After visited Qualcomm Japan, I told you that pretty soon, Japanese mobile phone companies will propose streaming TV, and espicially KDDI, The Big Big Friend of Qualcomm here in Japan and who is going to introduce later this year the CDMA 1x EV-DO (2.4 Mbps of Data capability on a Mobile Phone !!!) Anyway today the KDDI Labs are introducing us their first prototype of this PDA, which will be able to of course display streaming TV (here with the National Japanese TV , NHK) and in the same time additional informations like on a web page by using BML (Broadcast Markup Language)"<br /><br />Take a look at the second picture on the page -- and you thought an iPAQ with a dual sleeve was thick? :lol: Still, I'm sure they'll reduce the size when the real devices hit the market.

[pro_worm]

They already have streaming T.V. that fits in your pocket.
They call it, a 'portable television'
It even has color!
And it is a lot
Sexier than
that PDA

[lurch]

Is that a TRIPLE expansion? :) And a USB port to boot? I'm buying the first one that comes out in the US.. ;)

[Timothy Rapson]

Case by Fisher Price toys?

[beq]

Let's see you squeeze that into your pants (then take it out again).

[Konrad]

Yeah
Not everyone has all that extra room down there to stuff PDAs into
:mrgreen:

[Ian Hanschen]

This device is probably based off a reference platform(where based off of = they threw their own case on it). Telltales that it's *definately* prototype stage are the pcmcia cards for communication.

[cyp]

Wonder if there's landspace mode? :roll:

I do wish that somebody comes out with a TV tuner in CF form. I been waiting for that for a long time. :cry:

[io333]

and just how is this different from what a bunch of folks here are already doing?


http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3263



With a plain ol'e Axim I might add, and without stuff hanging out all over the place.

[io333]

Oh nevermind, I went and actually read the article. They're not WiFi streaming, which I assumed, they're streaming over cell phone. Big whoop.

[Janak Parekh]

Oh nevermind, I went and actually read the article. They're not WiFi streaming, which I assumed, they're streaming over cell phone. Big whoop.
Yes, it is a big whoop. First off, we're talking 2.4Mbps CDMA. Show me that running on your Pocket PC right now. :)

Second, the PDA is a prototype, presumably showing features like broadcast-quality TV-on-demand. Streaming WMV is not the same thing. We're getting there, but we're several years behind.

--janak

[Abba Zabba]

That's got to be the ugliest thing I have ever seen 8O . Anyway, are we really in need of watching anymore tv. And is it me or does anyone esle feel that only a few people would actually use this and most would just think it's kinda geeky :?:

[ricksfiona]

When I saw this device, I thought "Cool, I want one!". Then I went to goodguys.com and saw that you can get a nice 3" portable tv for less than $200. So having a big cradle to use on the IPAQ would not be practical. However, get a tv tuner in CF format and THAT I would consider purchasing.

and just how is this different from what a bunch of folks here are already doing?


http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3263



With a plain ol'e Axim I might add, and without stuff hanging out all over the place.


I set this up. It rocks!!! So if I'm in a cafe somewhere and I want to listen to [email protected] or watch MSNBC, I can just ask someone at home (and there is always someone at home), to change the channel on my p.c.

This has so many possibilities:

1) Broadcasting a recorded meeting to clients/community.
2) Broadcasting a live party.
3) Education.

I was up and running in 5 minutes. This is why this group is the best!!!

[io333]

When I saw this device, I thought "Cool, I want one!". Then I went to goodguys.com and saw that you can get a nice 3" portable tv for less than $200. So having a big cradle to use on the IPAQ would not be practical. However, get a tv tuner in CF format and THAT I would consider purchasing.

and just how is this different from what a bunch of folks here are already doing?


http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3263



With a plain ol'e Axim I might add, and without stuff hanging out all over the place.


I set this up. It rocks!!! So if I'm in a cafe somewhere and I want to listen to [email protected] or watch MSNBC, I can just ask someone at home (and there is always someone at home), to change the channel on my p.c.

This has so many possibilities:

1) Broadcasting a recorded meeting to clients/community.
2) Broadcasting a live party.
3) Education.

I was up and running in 5 minutes. This is why this group is the best!!!


You don't have to call anyone, you just connect to the server from your PPC via Terminal Services Client & do it yourself.

[xoiph]

Ok, now that defenitely qualifies as a "brick" :mrgreen:

[Daimaou]

Oh nevermind, I went and actually read the article. They're not WiFi streaming, which I assumed, they're streaming over cell phone. Big whoop.

and we already do it at 128 kbps (thanks to the Card on the front side with the Antenna called AirH) and now we can go up to 384 Kbps with the FOMA (3G mobile phone) AND :D at the end of this years ! my Little Ipaq will run at 2.4Mbps on the Go thanks to the CDMA 1x EV-DO !!!!!!!!!

Much faster than some ADSL connection around (Except here in Japan where I am using a 12 Mo ADSL, and soon a 100 Mo.... Optical Fiber ! I love this country !)

[ricksfiona]

((You don't have to call anyone, you just connect to the server from your PPC via Terminal Services Client & do it yourself.))

If you are running this software on a Windows Server, sure you can do it yourself. But I don't. Yet.

I have a community based website that I will be moving over to a MS based server and then I can do some really fun stuff with it.

Hmmm, does anyone know of a PC Anywhere compatible program that will run on the Pocket PC?

[SteveClawson]

You'll see consumer applications like this in the US as digital TV gets going, and a 1 mb slice of the digital bandwidth is dedicated for applications like this, allowing for full HD and ancillary services. The coverage area is a big bonus (no cell hopping), and the DTV signal goes a lot of places the cell phone folks don't have towers. We're playing with it now at our station...not ready for prime time yet, but it works. And it uses standard ppc's rather than the brick shown here. Hey, if we can send four channels of NTSC quality over the DTV signal for special events (like the NCAA BB tournaments), this is easy.

This is a cell phone company playing catch-up.

The real issue in making all this fly is rights fees and talent compensation. Right now, it’s the killing the goose that may lay the golden egg. We’d release our desktop and ppc internet streaming of our TV station fulltime to the public if there was a way around that….

[rlobrecht]

((You don't have to call anyone, you just connect to the server from your PPC via Terminal Services Client & do it yourself.))

If you are running this software on a Windows Server, sure you can do it yourself. But I don't. Yet.

XP Pro also has Terminal Services (only one connection.) Or there is VNC http://www.realvnc.com/ which is cross-platform and free! Its quite a bit slower than Terminal Services, however (it needs more bandwidth.)