MATRIX RELOADED

[Abba Zabba]

So are you entering the matrix today?

[freitasm]

So are you entering the matrix today?

Yes, and courtesy of Vodafone New Zealand. They've hired a cinema for a drinks and finger food session for partners :wink:.

[bdegroodt]

So are you entering the matrix today?

Yes, and courtesy of Vodafone New Zealand. They've hired a cinema for a drinks and finger food session for partners :wink:.

Now THAT'S a partner! :popcorn:

[Kevin Remhof]

Must wait... free tickets... coming... in... mail... snail mail, that is.

[freitasm]

So are you entering the matrix today?

Yes, and courtesy of Vodafone New Zealand. They've hired a cinema for a drinks and finger food session for partners :wink:.

Now THAT'S a partner! :popcorn:

Yep, good business partners are hard to find... But a free phone here, a Matrix ticket there... Just one hour to go! Off to get my girlfriend (yes, two tickets!) and then to the cocktail before the movie screening... :shocked!:

[CESkins]

My wife and I stepped into the rabbit hole today and got totally lost in the Matrix...time to reload and see it again. The fight sequences were absolutely incredible...waaayyyy better than part 1. I absolutely love the ripple effect that precedes Neo taking flight. I think I now have a better grasp of what was going on at a more intellectual level after rattling the scenes/dialog around my head for awhile. Definitely a must see...4 thumbs up (wife and I). :way to go: :D The movie at times though seems to take itself and its message way too seriously. Can't wait for Matrix Revolutions this November to see if my suspicions are confirmed.

[CESkins]

Must wait... free tickets... coming... in... mail... snail mail, that is.
That may be a long wait...by the time they arrive everyone and their pets may have seen Reloaded 15 times. ;)

[Abba Zabba]

I was just watching tv and overheard them say that the Matrix is coming to IMAX theater's... 8O sweet :!:

[karen]

1. No story at all
2. The chase scene was one of the best chase scenes I've ever seen.
3. Too much Superman, not enough tortured new hero.
4. Just the right amount of Keanu's butt.
5. Not enough Obiwan/Luke relationship between Morpheus and Neo.
6. The first hour or so contributed nothing to moving the story along.
7. There's no chemistry between Neo and Trinity - not like in the first one.
8. What's with the goofy coat?
9. Way too many computing references, as if the script was written to sell Matrix quote T-shirts for us geeks to wear - Upgrades! Are you a Program?
10. Nothing new in the fight scenes.

While it was an exciting flick, the story just wasn't up to par with the first one.

[EvilOne]

I was just watching tv and overheard them say that the Matrix is coming to IMAX theater's... 8O sweet :!:

Yeah it is suppose to be released in about two weeks. When the third movie comes out it is suppose to be released in both regular format and IMAX.

[bdegroodt]

I was just watching tv and overheard them say that the Matrix is coming to IMAX theater's... 8O sweet :!:

Yeah it is suppose to be released in about two weeks. When the third movie comes out it is suppose to be released in both regular format and IMAX.

Does this mean it was shot as an Imax film or it's just being converted and shown on the bigger screen?

[CESkins]

1. No story at all
That's why it's called a sequel. I agree that the storyline does not appear to gel much beyond stopping the machines from reachin Zion at all costs. Everything else seems as if it was thrown in to fill the 2 hr time slot. However since this is a sequel I am not surprised. Hopefully part 3 will make part 2 gel a bit more.

2. The chase scene was one of the best chase scenes I've ever seen.
Agreed...if you love Reloaded's chase scene, check out the chase scene in Ronin. :)

3. Too much Superman, not enough tortured new hero.
I think that's the point...he is still discovering his role but now he knows what he can do and he is flexing his muscles (so to speak).

4. Just the right amount of Keanu's butt.
I will leave that to my wife to comment on...though if she knows what's best for our relationship, she will most likely refrain from affirming the quote above ;)

5. Not enough Obiwan/Luke relationship between Morpheus and Neo.
At some point, the apprentice becomes the Master and the Master has to start taking cues. I believe that we saw that happening as the movie progressed and culminated with Neo doing his own thing.

6. The first hour or so contributed nothing to moving the story along.
Well there was the whole love scene bwteen Keannu and Carie-Anne...not to mention the barely clad individuals in the Mosh-pit dancing...hmmmm...point well taken...nothing special in the 1st hr unless you are into that kinda stuff. 2nd hr makes up for it though.

7. There's no chemistry between Neo and Trinity - not like in the first one.
Blame Keannu's dead-pan, emotionless acting skills for this. Whoaaa dude...like that kiss had no emotional resonance. Just take the scene between Persephone, Neo, and Trinity...the women were convincing...Neo spoiled it for me.

8. What's with the goofy coat?
Love the coat...it's like a Catholic priest frock except in all black without the white collar...makes him seem more like a Holy man which is exactly the way people related to him in Reloaded.

9. Way too many computing references, as if the script was written to sell Matrix quote T-shirts for us geeks to wear - Upgrades! Are you a Program?
Plug-in, boot-up, log-on, and...hang-on if you don't know computer speak...but for us geeks here at Thoughts, that computer speak was like sitting in a 3rd grade English class...waaayyy under our heads :)

10. Nothing new in the fight scenes.
I disagree. The fight scenes were more refined and much better choreographed this time out...besides, the twins added a whole new element to the fight as they could not be touched unless they wanted to be. Recall, the Matrix set the standard and so its tough to top yourself. I thought they up-ed the bar a little...enough so that others will have another year or so of copying the Matrix in their movies.

While it was an exciting flick, the story just wasn't up to par with the first one.
Hmmm...except for a few rare sequels (Empire Strikes Back, Aliens, LOTR: The Two Towers, etc.), there just aren't that many sequels that equal or are better than the 1st movie....this just sets up Matrix Revolutions. Reloaded is the riddle that Revolutions was meant to solve.

[nosmohtac]

I am going to see it this evening with my wife.
If it is anything like the first one, I will be pleased.
The first one bumped it's way up to "favorite movie of all time" very quickly, and I wore the VHS cassette out in no time and had to go buy it again on DVD.
I'll sum it all up with AWESOME BABY!

[CESkins]

I'll sum it all up with AWESOME BABY!
Hmmm...maybe Austin Powers and Undercover Brother will make it into Revolutions...heck, all Austin would have to do is tell the machines, "Oh behave" and work that Mojo to save Zion. :D

[nosmohtac]

I'll sum it all up with AWESOME BABY!
Hmmm...maybe Austin Powers and Undercover Brother will make it into Revolutions...heck, all Austin would have to do is tell the machines, "Oh behave" and work that Mojo to save Zion. :D

I know it's unrelated, but I was going more for the Dick Vital reference.
Sometimes it gets lost in a forum setting. :lol:

[EvilOne]

I was just watching tv and overheard them say that the Matrix is coming to IMAX theater's... 8O sweet :!:

Yeah it is suppose to be released in about two weeks. When the third movie comes out it is suppose to be released in both regular format and IMAX.

Does this mean it was shot as an Imax film or it's just being converted and shown on the bigger screen?

I just now quickly skimmed this article and I don't know if it answers your question, but here is the site where I got the information...

http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/030423/1108001165_1.html

[bdegroodt]

I was just watching tv and overheard them say that the Matrix is coming to IMAX theater's... 8O sweet :!:

Yeah it is suppose to be released in about two weeks. When the third movie comes out it is suppose to be released in both regular format and IMAX.

Does this mean it was shot as an Imax film or it's just being converted and shown on the bigger screen?

I just now quickly skimmed this article and I don't know if it answers your question, but here is the site where I got the information...

http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/030423/1108001165_1.html

Ah. The answer is kinda. It's originally shot in 35mm, but it's enhanced and enlarged using Imax software. I'll be interested in seeing the results since the Imax film is much larger and provides superior resolution to 35mm. Either way, seeing The Matrix on a huge screen should be pretty cool!

[Paul P]

I couldn't believe some of the absurd dialogue that made it to the movie, but the special effects were nothing short of spectacular. The storyline picked up in the second half though and there was a nice little twist towards the end. Overall, the action did not disappoint at all (and safely made up for some of the poor scenes and dialogue).

[EyePAQ]

1. No story at all
2. The chase scene was one of the best chase scenes I've ever seen.
3. Too much Superman, not enough tortured new hero.
4. Just the right amount of Keanu's butt.
5. Not enough Obiwan/Luke relationship between Morpheus and Neo.
6. The first hour or so contributed nothing to moving the story along.
7. There's no chemistry between Neo and Trinity - not like in the first one.
8. What's with the goofy coat?
9. Way too many computing references, as if the script was written to sell Matrix quote T-shirts for us geeks to wear - Upgrades! Are you a Program?
10. Nothing new in the fight scenes.

While it was an exciting flick, the story just wasn't up to par with the first one.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I agree with everything Karen has said. Glad I only paid matinee tix prices. I'm watching part 1 on DVD right now to redeem myself.

[Crystal Eitle]

It was AWESOME!!!!!

Sure, it had some cheesy dialogue, and that tribal dance scene down in Zion was just plain silly, but overall I liked it even better than the first one. I found the story to be pretty interesting - there may not have been much in the way of plot, but there sure were some interesting themes. I think it's just suffering a bit from the middle-film-of-a-trilogy problem. I thought The Two Towers had the same issue. It's missing the excitement of a beginning, and the resolution of an end.

The fighting was incredible. And Carrie-Anne Moss's outfit was even shinier than her outfit in the first movie. Woo! There was plenty to think about and chew on in this movie, the characters were interesting, and the action was absolutely incredible. And the thing was a joy to look at from beginning to end. The Wachowski brothers really know how to take advantage of the widescreen format. I liked the composition of the scenes, and the restricted color palette.

I loved the fight scene between Neo and the French guy's thugs in the fancy hotel, especially when they smashed those marble statues apart. It was SO COOL!!!

[Ekkie Tepsupornchai]

Just saw the movie yesterday and it ROCKS!!!

The big fight scene between Neo and the dozens of clones of "Agent Smith" was even more incredible than all the previews led you to believe. The story moved a bit slowly at times and I agree with Space Waitress, it did have that same middle-file-of-a-trilogy feel that The Two Towers had, but IMO there were a lot of interesting new characters and seeing the visual effects were worth the price of admission alone.

[Mitch D]

Well I have just exited the Matrix... And it was great. I have heard alot of people complain about the story line, but keep in mind this one sets everything up for the last one in November!

:werenotworthy:

I think we need to start a poll answering the question "What was your favorite line from the movie?"

Well time to head for a beer... :2gunfire:

[karen]

I think we need to start a poll answering the question "What was your favorite line from the movie?"

Well time to head for a beer... :2gunfire:

I actually laughed out loud at the "hmmm...upgrades" line.

But every other computer reference made me cringe 'cause they were so forced.

I think part of my vexation was that I went to a very late showing, so staying awake through the whole first 1.5 hours was a real struggle. Then when I really needed to be mental aware during the Architect scene, I couldn't follow the nuances of the long discussion. I will have to watch it again on DVD when that comes out.

As my role on my current project is an architect position, you can bet that our team will be using those references throughout the next few weeks.

[Steven Cedrone]

Snuck away today for a matinee (only 4 people in the theater)...

I really enjoyed it...

Can't wait for the last one and the 3 cd box set so I can watch them back to back... :wink:

One other thing, I'm cheap so I won't leave until the movie is completely over (credits and all). I was happy to be rewarded with previews of the "Revolutions" movie after the credits ended...

Well worth the bucks!!!

Steve

[felixdd]

I found it to be a really deep story and gives me something to think about -- at times the movie storyline was confusing (like having 3 timelines occuring simultaneously) -- but I like movies that confuses me and makes me think, as long as I know that there's a reason behind the confusion and that there is an answer to the riddle (i.e. Memento).

But I also found that unless you really concentrate on the finer points the movie will seem bland and dull. And with a movie that's got so much eye candy (I bet some of us were looking at Monica Belluci a but too much ;) ), it's hard to concentrate on the plot sometimes.

How many of you caught the "silver bullet" joke?

Admittedly, I found the mosh pit thing and the Persephone kissing thing to be completely unnecessary. And the counselor's dialogue was just plain awful. But I liked the little comic relief inserted here and there...like the "silver bullet", the "hmm...upgrades", the, "you could've just asked." And the, "he's doing the superman thing again."

And yes, the "pre-takeoff" special effect is just, so, awesome!

[dcharles18]

And yes, the "pre-takeoff" special effect is just, so, awesome!

By far my favourite effect . . . :D

[Abba Zabba]

Well since I started his little off topic post here is my take since I haven't been able to post for some time.

I liked it all in all. But the dialogue or lack of it is what my impression was of almost the whole movie.

The actions scenes...who could complain they were just awesome.

That whole S&M lets dance/ have sex scene was just oddly placed and didn't have enough sustinance to it... it could have been left out, what was the point :?:

What happened to character development... all of a sudden Neo is god-like. The superman thing was great though especially the pre-take off effect. :mrgreen:

From people I talked to all the techno jargon at the end when he meets his maker was just confusing but to me (a geek at heart) I though it was pretty cool but overly forced and sometimes could be explaind for the more simple folk.

All in all this was a great setting the stage flick but could have been much better. Great chase scenes awesome graphics, but not enough dialougies or story devlopment.

[darrylb]

So are you entering the matrix today?

Yes, and courtesy of Vodafone New Zealand. They've hired a cinema for a drinks and finger food session for partners :wink:.

Now THAT'S a partner! :popcorn:

New Zealand must be the place to be - I got two free tickets from our friends at Microsoft :D

Just as well too - I wouldnt want to pay to see the movie. I thought the whole thing appeared to have been written by a teenage boy with an overdose of tetosterone and male ego :? . The first movie broke the ground, the second built on that, enhanced it somewhat, but just seemed too teenage boyish for my tastes.

There were some fantastic fight scenes however, some peices to make you laugh (like agent (if he still is) Smith's big fight scene with Neo), some to make you puke (like the five wasted minutes watching the dance party/bonk scene that added nothing to the story but was put in there to satisfy the boy ego :roll: ).

Still - You might enjoy it - especially if you realise it will not break new ground, but just add to the first (as a sequel in a trilogy should).

PS: If you are a cult follower of the Matrix, you will probably disagree with me most profusely - these are just my opinions..... :worried:

[darrylb]

But I liked the little comic relief inserted here and there...like the "silver bullet", the "hmm...upgrades", the, "you could've just asked." And the, "he's doing the superman thing again."

I almost enjoyed the "OK - you've got some skill" bit as well....understatement - a form of comedy rarely seen in the movies these days....

[Fzara]

Now that I have some time to comment on the movie, did any of you realize the huuge physics error Morpheus and the Keymaker made when they were standing on top of the trailer?

Its because when they were both standing, the laws of physics would blow them away when standing straight at that speed!

Just a small little tidpit I noticed, that I hoped some of you geeks noticed.
Anyone else know anymore of these "blunders"?

[Abba Zabba]

Now that I have some time to comment on the movie, did any of you realize the huuge physics error Morpheus and the Keymaker made when they were standing on top of the trailer?

Its because when they were both standing, the laws of physics would blow them away when standing straight at that speed!

Just a small little tidpit I noticed, that I hoped some of you geeks noticed.
Anyone else know anymore of these "blunders"?

They were in the "matrix" remember this is suppose to be an unrealistic world where laws of gravity and other tings don't exist. :wink:

[hollis_f]

Just a small little tidpit I noticed, that I hoped some of you geeks noticed.
Anyone else know anymore of these "blunders"?You want a king-sized major blunder? Try this.

In The Animatrix we learned that humanity tried using nuclear weapons against the machines, but the machines weren't affected. In The Matrix we're told that the only way to destroy the Sentinels is with an EMP. Guess what the best method of generating an EMP is? Explode a nuclear device.

Here's my (consipracy) theory. The matrix is not run by machines but by human beings (the rich and powerful ruling classes we're developing today). Morpheus, Neo and co. haven't escaped from The Matrix into the Real World - they've just been accessing another part of the Matrix designed to give the paranoid occupants some hope.

The Matrix was Neo against the program.

Reloaded is humans against the machines.

Revolutions will be humans against humans.

[Crystal Eitle]

Just a small little tidpit I noticed, that I hoped some of you geeks noticed.
Anyone else know anymore of these "blunders"?You want a king-sized major blunder? Try this.

In The Animatrix we learned that humanity tried using nuclear weapons against the machines, but the machines weren't affected. In The Matrix we're told that the only way to destroy the Sentinels is with an EMP. Guess what the best method of generating an EMP is? Explode a nuclear device.

Here's my (consipracy) theory. The matrix is not run by machines but by human beings (the rich and powerful ruling classes we're developing today). Morpheus, Neo and co. haven't escaped from The Matrix into the Real World - they've just been accessing another part of the Matrix designed to give the paranoid occupants some hope.

The Matrix was Neo against the program.

Reloaded is humans against the machines.

Revolutions will be humans against humans.

Wow! 8O This is the best theory I've seen yet. I don't know if the third film will be as daring and subversive as you suggest, but it sure would make things interesting if it were.

I too think they're in another part of the Matrix - otherwise, how do you explain Neo being able to destroy the Sentinels at the end?

[felixdd]

more blunders:

At the speed Neo was flying at the end of the movie, him trying to catch Trinity will either ril his/her arm clean off, or he'll go straight through her (like a human-sized bullet). Same with him catching Morpheus and the keymaker during the chase scene.

Trinity and the keymaker jumping onto the motorcycle carrier from the bridge: the truck was obviously going faster than they are (c'mon...it's on a freeway) so the moment the two land on the truck they'll probably be "thrown back" and off the truck due to the difference in horizontal velocity.


That's all I can remember for now. But nitpicking like that sometimes destroys the enjoyability of an action movie. We all know it's fake -- lets just enjoy it because it looks cool :D

[Fzara]

Now that I have some time to comment on the movie, did any of you realize the huuge physics error Morpheus and the Keymaker made when they were standing on top of the trailer?

Its because when they were both standing, the laws of physics would blow them away when standing straight at that speed!

Just a small little tidpit I noticed, that I hoped some of you geeks noticed.
Anyone else know anymore of these "blunders"?

They were in the "matrix" remember this is suppose to be an unrealistic world where laws of gravity and other tings don't exist. :wink:

Blah. Only if you are "the one" can you truly defy the laws of physics like that. ;)

[felixdd]

Not really...Morpheus and Trinity can jump and float for amazing amounts of time 8)

[ghostppc]

From the ending, it looks like they are in a matrix within a matrix and don't know it yet.

[lurch]

Wow, I finally saw it. It was pretty cool!

While it may seem like they're in a matrix within the matrix, I am skeptical. Here's what we know: the good guys always win (well, nearly always) and Neo et. al. are the good guys. The time allotted in a movie is too short to adequately develop the plot to the level necessary to have them waking up from a 2nd matrix - then they'd have to free others, war against the machines for REAL, etc... (unless there's another twist there, like there are no machines or something like that).

I think that when Neo did "whatever" to agent Smith in the first movie, and it freed Smith, it also affected Neo somehow (or maybe it's from Smith trying to copy himself into Neo). I think that's the difference between Neo and all the other "the one's", and that's the reason why this time they'll actually beat the system.. Now Smith (in the flesh, so to speak) and Neo share this wierd human-machine connection to the machines and that will be the key that brings about the machine's ultimate undoing..

BWHAHAHA okay I analyzed that a little too much for my own health's sake.. :)

0X

[dean_shan]

I thought they could have done without the whole rave party at zion. It was pointless and did nothing to the story.

[lurch]

I thought they could have done without the whole rave party at zion. It was pointless and did nothing to the story.
I was (thankfully) warned about it ahead of time, and just sat with eyes closed eating popcorn until the techno music stopped (I did enjoy the music, so that was nice) -- my wife took that opportunity to use the restroom and refill the pop. :)

[andrewlwood]

that was the unsexisest sex scene I've ever seen. And not because of the plugholes either.

Agent Smith is cooler than anyone in this film.
Missstrrrr Ennnnddrrrssssnnn.


Liked it, though it was a bit directionless in parts. Where Empire strikes back had more plot than any of the star wars trilogy (we don't talk about the other two), this one felt a bit like a stopgap. But for eye candy, no parallel.

[dean_shan]

Agent Smith is cooler than anyone in this film.
Missstrrrr Ennnnddrrrssssnnn.


True that fight was so cool. The song that played during it was awsome too.