Tiger Direct.ca Sure Gets Some Unique PDAs!

[Jason Dunn]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.tigerdirect.ca/' target='_blank'>http://www.tigerdirect.ca/</a><br /><br /></div>A momentous occasion recently happened on the Canadian technology scene, and most people didn't notice it: MISCO, a long time mail-order catalogue technology vendor, has become part of the Tiger Direct empire, and that means Canadians now have access to a good deal of the Tiger Direct catalogue, without the painful cross-border taxes. I'm putting together a package on their site right now, and I thought I'd look at what PDAs they had to offer. Look what I found:<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/tigerdirectpdas.gif" /> <br /><br />They have an iPAQ that's only 0.5 inches wide? Wow - talk about portable! The screen sure would be teenie-weenie. 8O And a Sharp Zarus Pocket PC with a built in keyboard? Amazing! :lol: Operators are standing by...<br /><br />What are some of the best/funniest Pocket PC advertising flubs you've seen?

[Foo Fighter]

In other news...Woman gives birth to alien love child. :roll:

[jizmo]

You've got to love that $299.99 iPAQ, which costs $434.99 :lol:

/jizmo

[Foo Fighter]

An Office Depot ad once described the iPaq 36xx as a PalmPilot PocketPC Handheld computer Organizer. That's a mouthful.

[daninnj]

Stupid me...I thought it wa US$434.99 not Canadian Dollars. Gotta read the text more closely.

[karinatwork]

You've got to love that $299.99 iPAQ, which costs $434.99

Ahem... we are talking CANADIAN dollars here btw... ;)

Their website isn't working fore sure. I was trying to check out prices for CF cards, I get error messages wherever I click... it looks like they have a lot of work to do still..

[Jason Dunn]

You've got to love that $299.99 iPAQ, which costs $434.99 :lol:

Tiger Direct CANADA. Canada. You know, the big country north of the US? Different currency and all? :lol:

[jizmo]

You've got to love that $299.99 iPAQ, which costs $434.99 :lol:

Tiger Direct CANADA. Canada. You know, the big country north of the US? Different currency and all? :lol:

Ahhemm .. That was my point to start with :roll:

A different price on the blurb (US$) and in the actual AD (CAN $) above it which is a nice little way to confuse a customer.

/jizmo

[karinatwork]

You're right. I apologize. :werenotworthy:
I guess it's me who's not paying attention!! ;)

[Foo Fighter]

Canada. You know, the big country north of the US? Different currency and all? :lol:

There's a country North of the US? I thought that was our 51st state? :wink:

[bdeli]

The price of the 1910 is sweat! :D If you shop around you can get the 1910 for around $350 CAD. :lol:

[Jason Dunn]

Ahhemm .. That was my point to start with :roll:

Uh. 8O Oops. :oops: Hehe. :mrgreen:

[jizmo]

Ahhemm .. That was my point to start with :roll:

Uh. 8O Oops. :oops: Hehe. :mrgreen:

No prob :way to go:

/jizmo

[jpaq]

You've got to love that $299.99 iPAQ, which costs $434.99 :lol:

Tiger Direct CANADA. Canada. You know, the big country north of the US? Different currency and all? :lol:

Yeah!
Come on people!
Get serious here!

We're talking about Canadian money here.

Wait a minute. Isn't there a Canadian coin or bill called the looney, or loony, or something like that?

We're supposed to take the loony serious?

JUST KIDDING!!!!
I know there are a lot of Canadians here, eh.
:D

[spg]

Canada. You know, the big country north of the US? Different currency and all? :lol:

There's a country North of the US? I thought that was our 51st state? :wink:
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. :lol:

On the advertising front, last weeks Office Depot ad here advertised the iPAQ 1910 for $299 dollars. Funny thing was, the picture strangely resembled an iPAQ 3900 series. :?

[Kati Compton]

The price of the 1910 is sweat! :D If you shop around you can get the 1910 for around $350 CAD. :lol:

Speaking of good typos.... ;)

Gotta gets me one of them sweaty PPCs...

[trachy]

I love all the advert mistakes cited on the back page of PC Magazine. This month there's a great flub:

"If it's in stock, we have it." - Baen's Bookstore

[delfuhd]

Ha remember the ol' amazon.co.uk (i think) site selling h1910's and h5400's for those ridiculously low prices? Like 7 and 23 pounds respectively? I can't remember all the details, but that was definitely an amazing screw up...

[trachy]

The price of the 1910 is sweat! :D If you shop around you can get the 1910 for around $350 CAD. :lol:

Speaking of good typos.... ;)

Gotta gets me one of them sweaty PPCs...

Actually, I think you need to plunk down $350 CAD worth of sweat, right? ;-)

[Kati Compton]

Actually, I think you need to plunk down $350 CAD worth of sweat, right? ;-)

What's the going rate for sweat now? .50/litre? That's a lot of sweat.

[bdeli]

Actually, I think you need to plunk down $350 CAD worth of sweat, right? ;-)

Actually a lot of sweat on the phone to get a price match :lol: But it works!

I wonder if there will be anybody calling TigetDirect to get it for $299 as advertised....maybe a new lawsuit might be looming....

[karen]

Canada. You know, the big country north of the US? Different currency and all? :lol:

There's a country North of the US? I thought that was our 51st state? :wink:

No! There's a really long beach north of the US, that runs from around M to WA. That's why it is such a smooth curve. I know this for a fact because a contractor at my former client told me so...and his rate was half of mine, so he had to be right.

He just wondered why no one ever talked about visiting the beach that was oodles longer than the one in Arizona... :roll:

Then there are all the questions about igloos, snow, do we have electricity, what's it like to live in a country that has no freedoms, why is my English so good, etc.

Karen "Talking to Americans"

[anthonymoody]

"And a Sharp Zarus Pocket PC with a built in keyboard? Amazing!"

Ummm....actually...

http://www.sharp-usa.com/products/ModelLanding/0,1058,698,00.html

EDIT - Oh, I see what you're saying...PocketPC...

TM

[Tom W.M.]

Their website isn't working fore sure. I was trying to check out prices for CF cards, I get error messages wherever I click... it looks like they have a lot of work to do still..
Were you using IE for Mac? I don't know about the .ca site, but Tigerdirect.com is totally useless under that browser.

[kfluet]

On a minor note, it is actually cool to see the Sharp SL-5500 available in Canada since Sharp never released the product here.

[Noel]

This was the funniest and BEST screwup AFAIC...

Dear Customer,
We are writing you in regards to your recent online purchase.
Dell has become aware of a pricing error on our website for our Dell Axim X5 handhelds. The incorrect pricing of $89.00 CANADIAN for the 300MHz model and $118 CANADIAN for the 400MHz model resulted from a technical issue with one of our database systems. We endeavor to provide current and accurate pricing information at all times on our website.
Nevertheless, such errors do occur. The actual pricing for the 300MHz and 400MHz models is $379 and $549 respectively, exclusive of shipping and applicable taxes.

Accordingly, your order and all orders for Dell Axim X5 handhelds with incorrect pricing will not be processed.

... otherwise today I wouldn't have my beloved Ax 5 Advanced!

Noel

[lurch]

On the advertising front, last weeks Office Depot ad here advertised the iPAQ 1910 for $299 dollars. Funny thing was, the picture strangely resembled an iPAQ 3900 series. :?
I noticed this, and almost posted it here... :) But obviously didn't..

[Kiyoshi]

Before I decided to buy a Pocket PC over Palm, I was planning on getting a Zire 71 for $300. Since the Zire 71 and the Tungsten C were released the same time, some small online vendor mistook the $500 Tungsten C for the $300 Zire 71, and mixed up the prices. I jumped on the deal and ordered one, but they canceled my order.......****ards...... :lol:

[Paragon]

I AM CANADIAN!!

http://www.videoclipstream.com/akamai/therant/molsonbanner.html

click on Joe at the top of the page beside Molson......if you really are Canadian you have seen this before, and maybe even personally know Joe. :)

dave

[thenikjones]

Canada. You know, the big country north of the US? Different currency and all? :lol:

There's a country North of the US? I thought that was our 51st state? :wink:

Canada the 51st state? I thought the UK had that dubious honour (should that be honor :D ) They even made a film about it recently (Samuel L. Jackson et al) so it must be true.

[Jacob]

I AM CANADIAN!!

http://www.videoclipstream.com/akamai/therant/molsonbanner.html

click on Joe at the top of the page beside Molson......if you really are Canadian you have seen this before, and maybe even personally know Joe. :)

dave

I always liked that..check this: http://www.icomm.ca/emily/

It's a bit outdated.. but still interesting :D

[lonesniper]

That is clever and funny. Canadians are a great source of jokes, I like them and their bacon, no really the bacon is very nice, especially from that market in Toronto I went to. But I always have to wonder if like all of Canada just stayed in bed one day and did not go to work would the rest of the world notice??? :lol:

[Jason Dunn]

But I always have to wonder if like all of Canada just stayed in bed one day and did not go to work would the rest of the world notice??? :lol:

Sure the world would notice! I wouldn't update this site, and THEN think of how depressed you'd be... :lol:

[Steven Cedrone]

But I always have to wonder if like all of Canada just stayed in bed one day and did not go to work would the rest of the world notice??? :lol:

Sure the world would notice! I wouldn't update this site, and THEN think of how depressed you'd be... :lol:

Should I ban him now or wait 'till later??? :wink: :lol:

Steve

[lonesniper]

Sure the world would notice! I wouldn't update this site, and THEN think of how depressed you'd be... :lol:
Thats true for you, but maybe not for the rest of the country :-)

In a sick way I think some Canadian Politicians were happy with all the SARS news coverage cause at least now the world knows about Canada. But I think the people of Ottawa will be annoyed because the world probably now thinks that Toronto is the capital.

Hey don't ban me!!! I just can't resist easy jokes. :lol: I love Canada. I love the food, those funny coins. I have been to Toronto and Vancouver. But your women are a little crazy, well the one I was stalked by was. :)

[Janak Parekh]

Hey don't ban me!!! I just can't resist easy jokes. :lol:
I think Steve was volunteering to ban Jason, not you, as part of our noble experiment. :lol:

--janak

[caudax]

LOL!!!!
Even though i am a proud canadian, i love these Canada jokes....
But you americans better watch out! Ive got some USA jokes up my sleeve!

Thanks for the entertainment!

Caudex

[caudax]

WOW that was my first post :lol:
And ive been a member for months...

oh well

:drinking: Caudex :drinking:
:iamwithstupid:

[Paragon]

But I always have to wonder if like all of Canada just stayed in bed one day and did not go to work would the rest of the world notice??? :lol:

Sure the world would notice! I wouldn't update this site, and THEN think of how depressed you'd be... :lol:

Should I ban him now or wait 'till later??? :wink: :lol:

Steve

why wait ban him now!! :)

[Brad Adrian]

Hey don't ban me!!! I just can't resist easy jokes...
Yeah, like it would be difficult to make fun of us Americans! I mean, we're loud, arrogant, crude, hyper, materialistic and a bit dim at times.

Q: "How many Americans does it take to screw in a lightbulb?"
A: "500,000. One to replace the bulb and 499,999 to invade the country it's in."

[Paragon]

Q: "How many Americans does it take to screw in a lightbulb?"
A: "500,000. One to replace the bulb and 499,999 to invade the country it's in."

that's why we prefer to be kept in the dark. :)

[Kiyoshi]

I never realized this site was maintained by Canadians and had a bajillion Canadian contributing members. I salute you, ye Canadians!!! BTW, tell me some of those anti-american jokes, I'm sure they'll amuse me, cuz I think our country is pretty stupid at the moment (come on, just look at the guy in the Oval Office)

[karen]

Sure the world would notice! I wouldn't update this site, and THEN think of how depressed you'd be... :lol:


Hey don't ban me!!! I just can't resist easy jokes. :lol: I love Canada. I love the food, those funny coins. I have been to Toronto and Vancouver. But your women are a little crazy, well the one I was stalked by was. :)

You don't even want to go there....we Canuck women are wild in bed and even more wild in the rest of the house!

Karen :oops:

[karen]

I never realized this site was maintained by Canadians and had a bajillion Canadian contributing members. I salute you, ye Canadians!!! BTW, tell me some of those anti-american jokes, I'm sure they'll amuse me, cuz I think our country is pretty stupid at the moment (come on, just look at the guy in the Oval Office)

USA:

Q. How many men does it take to open a bottle of American beer?
A. None. She should have opened it before she brought it to you...

Canada:
Q. How many men does it take to open a bottle of American beer?
A. None. We drink the real stuff.

[bdeli]

we Canuck women are wild in bed and even more wild in the rest of the house!

Karen :oops:

wohoooo....need to get some more :beer:

[Paragon]

just had to add this in :iamwithstupid: ......sorry Brian. I couldn't resist. :)

we Canuck women are wild in bed and even more wild in the rest of the house!

Karen :oops:

Karen we have a PPC users group that meets in Toronto.....if you are interested?! :ladysman:



dave

[T4RZ4N]

well, I think we had seen similar funny things in newspaper headlines.

For me, I've ever seen such headlines such as:
Something went wrong in jet crash, experts say ;)
Or
War Dims Hope For Peace

Luckily, I've never seen such thing in PocketpcThoughts :D

[Foo Fighter]

Q. How many men does it take to open a bottle of American beer?
A. None. We drink the real stuff.

Actually, the "real stuff" would be German beer. I don't touch American beer, except for Wisconsin microbrew. :wink:

[ctmagnus]

Canadians are a great source of jokes, I like them and their bacon

Jokes have bacon?

j/k - You haven't had bacon until you've had Tyrolian (sp?) bacon. Mmm... Tyrolian (sp?) bacon...

[Steven Cedrone]

Since we're talking about Canadian Bacon...

"Surrender pronto, or we'll level toronto..." :lol:

http://fp.blockbuster.com/is/amg/video/cov120/drv500/v553/v55336sei1c.jpg?cell=200,200&cvt=jpeg

Steve

[jizmo]

Actually, the "real stuff" would be German beer. I don't touch American beer, except for Wisconsin microbrew. :wink:

One more vote for german beer, once you taste it, there's no way back to the american ones, which are quite frankly more like colored tap water :D

I'm leaving to Australia next week for 6 months .. Wonder how's the beer situation there? I've heard that althought Fosters is their largest brand, aussies prefer other beer labels over it themselves :beer:

/jizmo

[Foo Fighter]

One more vote for german beer, once you taste it, there's no way back to the american ones, which are quite frankly more like colored tap water :D

Yep. I can't help but laugh at my uncultured friends who brag about Budweiser or MGD as being "a man's beer". Those fools don't even know what real beer is. Some of the smaller Wisconsin breweries like Leinenkugels and Burghoff are quite good, (anybody remember Schlitz?), but I love German beer (partly because my family is German). Beck, Bitburger, Hofbrau, Paulaner....mmmm, beer!

[lonesniper]

just checking.....can i still post??? phew, they did not ban me..........humm haven't seen any Jason posts, maybe there did ban him for an experiement. :lol:

The Austrailain beer Fosters is weaker than rat pee and way too gassy, avoid it. Try Victoria Bitter or just "VB" for short.


Jokes have bacon?

j/k - You haven't had bacon until you've had Tyrolian (sp?) bacon. Mmm... Tyrolian (sp?) bacon...

I can't think of any jokes about Canadian Bacon, just I would do anything for another Peameal style bacon sandwich I had in Toronto. :D

[wrightca]

Q. How many men does it take to open a bottle of American beer?
A. None. We drink the real stuff.

Actually, the "real stuff" would be German beer. I don't touch American beer, except for Wisconsin microbrew. :wink:

A Bitburger to ya then!

[andrewlwood]

Yup, Aussies wouldn't touch Fosters. Toohey's, VB, or 'Gold' - the way forwards down under.

You have to try weissbier too, by the way - made with wheat. REALLY good.

Better than the chili-infused tequila slammers from last weekend. Lordy... :oops: 8O :devilboy:

[Paragon]

Actually, the "real stuff" would be German beer. I don't touch American beer, except for Wisconsin microbrew. :wink:

One more vote for german beer, once you taste it, there's no way back to the american ones, which are quite frankly more like colored tap water :D

I'm leaving to Australia next week for 6 months .. Wonder how's the beer situation there? I've heard that althought Fosters is their largest brand, aussies prefer other beer labels over it themselves :beer:

/jizmo

if you go to western australia you want to try "Emu" i faintly remember having a few..........too many :)

[Jason Dunn]

I never realized this site was maintained by Canadians and had a bajillion Canadian contributing members.

Actually, the founder (me) is Canadian, and one of our development team (Chris) is also from Calgary (where I live), but that's it - we have three contributors from the US (Ed, Brad, Janak), one from Sweden (Andy), one from the Netherlands (Marlof), and our lead developer (Fabrizio) is from Italy.

We're International baby, yeah! :mrgreen:

[Noel]

GREAT point Jason!
For our US friends - please see Canada for what it is ...
the most multi-cultural country in the world and possibly the fairest and most tolerant as well. We take great pride in getting along respectfully with each other and with other countries in the world - and we would much rather kick butt on the hockey rink (CONGRATS Team Canada!!!)
than in someone else's sandbox.

Noel

[lurch]

As someone who's spent about equal time in Canada and the US, I'd have to say that both have their good points, and their bad points. And it's almost such that where Canada is good, the US is bad, and vice versa.

I'm very glad for my experience of living both places!!! It gives you a more well-rounded perspective, that's for sure!!

So cheers to my Canadian friends!! :beer:

[Kati Compton]

Since we're talking about Canadian Bacon...

"Surrender pronto, or we'll level toronto..." :lol:


I love that movie.

[Jason Dunn]

I'm really happy that this thread has been fun and light-hearted, so please resist the urge to respond to some of the jabs that people have put in. And to the people putting in these jabs, please, don't ruin this thread - focus on the POSITIVE and ignore the negative ok?

[Steven Cedrone]

This thread is so off-topic, I should just lock it! The again, since I helped to lead it so far astray, all I can say is this:

My absolute favorite beer is Theakston's Old Peculier. Kicks my butt every time I have it!!! :wink:

http://www.theakstons.co.uk/images/op_logo.jpg

Steve

[Noel]

Hey Steve... I nicked a dinner plate-sized clear green THEAKSTONS ashtray in UK a few years back... great memento of a great beer I haven't tasted since!

Cheers!

:beer:

Noel

[Paragon]

http://www.devans.ca/blue.gif

[lurch]

http://www.funset.com/images/pepsi.gif

My drink of choice... 8)

[Kati Compton]

Anybody had Flowers in the UK?

[Steven Cedrone]

Hey Steve... I nicked a dinner plate-sized clear green THEAKSTONS ashtray in UK a few years back... great memento of a great beer I haven't tasted since!

:rofl: :way to go:

Steve

[Noel]

Steve! FYI. Just checked in with my knowledgeable beer mate, Alex... who is from UK and in Toronto.... may be of interest...

Noel says:
Hey Alex.... have you see Thaeakston's anywhere in Toronto?
Noel says:
Theakston's
Alex says:
not on draft
Alex says:
but cans are very good too
Noel says:
y
Alex says:
although Theakstons no longer Theakstons
Noel says:
?
Alex says:
Theakstons was sold to Scottish & Newcastle and is now mass-produced.
Noel says:
did it change I wonder?
Alex says:
They just brew a few barrels at the original brewery so they can con people with the 'brewed in Masham, Yourshire' thing
Noel says:
so just for locals?
Alex says:
y.
Alex says:
The real stuff (which you can get over here) is 'Black Sheep'
Noel says:
McBeer
Noel says:
?
Alex says:
This is one of the brothers who refused to sell, but was outvoted by the rest of the family, so he quit and set up a brewery across the street (hence the name......) brewing to the original recipe
Noel says:
Black Sheep IS original Theakston's?
Alex says:
Basically
Noel says:
on tap?
Alex says:
not likely
Alex says:
real ale doesn't travel that well
Noel says:
true
Alex says:
you are much better off with Wellington County on handpull here
Noel says:
but you can buy bottles?
Alex says:
e.g. Bow & Arrow, C'est What, Queens Head, Pour House
Alex says:
bottles yes
Alex says:
why do you ask?
Noel says:
There is a thread in a Forum going on which devolved into "beer talk" and one member in US remarked how much Theakston's kiccked! http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12426&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60
Noel says:
mayb I should post your comments!
Alex says:
by all means do!
Noel says:
k

Guess that makes my ashtray is a Collector's Item!!!!

:lol:


Noel

[karen]

just had to add this in :iamwithstupid: ......sorry Brian. I couldn't resist. :)

we Canuck women are wild in bed and even more wild in the rest of the house!

Karen :oops:

Karen we have a PPC users group that meets in Toronto.....if you are interested?! :ladysman:



dave

I know and I met some of you all at Comdex just as it was forming.

...but I'm working on the west coast and don't make it back to the big T.O. during the week.

Karen

[Steven Cedrone]

Guess that makes my ashtray is a Collector's Item!!!!

:lol:


Noel

They'll probably start mass producing those as well... :roll:

I am depressed!!! :cry:

Steve

[bdeli]

Since we are on the subject here are my favorites:

Canadian Beer - Creemore Springs - http://www.creemoresprings.com & La Fin Du Monde - http://www.unibroue.com/

Belgian Beer - Huyghe Delerium Tremens & Hoegaarden.

Delerium will knock you off after the 2nd bottle (14% alcohol). You would need around three of La Fin Du Monde (9% alcohol) to get the same affect. :lol:

[Noel]

Good advice.

I'm really happy that this thread has been fun and light-hearted, so please resist the urge to respond to some of the jabs that people have put in. And to the people putting in these jabs, please, don't ruin this thread - focus on the POSITIVE and ignore the negative ok?

For Steve... (and ME!) Don't be depressed! Let's check it out! :drinking:

http://www.blacksheepbrewery.com/

[Foo Fighter]

I still miss the good old days when small commercial beers were popular. Remember Schlitz, Blatz, Pabst, or Chief Oshkosh? Gone forever. :cry:

The only thing Budweiser is King of is advertising. :devilboy:

[Mark from Canada]

And then we have Bavarian Beer style brewing in Canada:

http://www.bcbeer.ca/brewery.htm#Okanagan
http://www.okspring.com

[D.psi]

:soapbox:
I can't believe that more people aren't speaking up for Canadian beers. I'll grant that the big breweries (Molson's & Labatt's) have limited flavour differentials, but some of the micro and not so micro breweries have good stuff.

Thanks to my travels (work related), and work environment (ex-Navy personel), I've had the oportunity to taste lots of beer. On a per-capita basis, I would guess that Victoria, BC (Canada) probably has more micro-breweries than any other city I've been to. If you ever go to Victoria, go to the Swan's its got these beers :beer: . You wouldn't believe the labels ( Oatmeal Stout, Burnt Moss, etc...) Well the Burnt Moss beer was okay for the first half-pint, but the back end of the glass was pretty chewy.

There's also some interesting brews in Québec, La Maudite, La Fin du Monde, La blanche de Chambly, etc...

Sleemans is also generally acceptable, providing more flavour than your average Blue, or Export. What's with the Ice beers, and the dry beers. Yes the alcohol buzz is fine, but what if you actually like the taste of beer?

Walking into "The Beer Store" is such an adventure, look at the wall and order something flavourful, get off the beaten path.

:soapbox:

D.psi

PS: Sorry about the diatribe.

[Ken Mattern]

Go to Indoensia where it is hot year round and drink Bintang Bir. I love the stuff.
http://www.beertest.de/images/Bintang.JPG

[trachy]

Next time you're in Bavaria, check out my favorite - Andechs (http://www.andechs.de/englisch/brauerei/biersorten/index.html). It's the name of a village and the name of the beer brewed by the monks at the Andechs Monastery. Almost all German beers are good (****burger being one exception ;-) ), but this one is far and away the best, IMO.

Anybody had Flowers in the UK?

Never had that one, but I did like Old Speckled Hen. A little watered down, but it had an unusual flavor.


You have to try weissbier too, by the way - made with wheat. REALLY good.

Weissbier is excellent, especially in warmer weather. I don't recommend it in cold weather, but that's just me. An acquired taste, for sure...

Since we are on the subject here are my favorites:

Belgian Beer - Huyghe Delerium Tremens & Hoegaarden.


Never heard of the Tremens, but have you ever had a Grimbergen or a Leffe? More monk beers that are nothing less than excellent. Also like Quack (sp?),

Man, do I miss Belgium... :( Especially Brugges.......

[ctmagnus]

http://www.7-eleven.com/images/assets/711_supslureestrata_d.jpg

Only I prefer the colors to not be so loud.

[D.psi]

Man, do I miss Belgium... Especially Brugges.......

Boy do I agree, spent a week there on business. The food was good, and the beer plenty. Holland is also not bad for beer, spent three weeks in Den Helder.

The Leffe experience is great, not your usual taste for beer. We have a couple of pubs near work that offer it. I'm not certain if it's brewed in Canada or imported, but it still tastes good, as does the Hoegaarden. It's amazing what you can find to drink when you're looking for it.

D.psi[/b]