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Jason Dunn
03-16-2003, 11:00 PM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=153772#post153772' target='_blank'>http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/foru...3772#post153772</a><br /><br /></div>"I thought this might be a bit of fun. I came across my first cellphone. In 1985 when I bought this phone it was pretty high end. It had a bit of memory so you could program in a directory, and about 10 speed dial numbers. Plus it had a speakerphone option. You could do two things with it: You could talk into it, or you could listen. It was analog...no data, no faxing. Internet? What the heck was that? <br /><br />As you can see it was very big, and heavy. This was not portable by any means. In the winter I sometimes couldn't read the screen it was too cold for it to work. Compared to my XDA's size and capabilities....WOW!Perhaps we should think again when we call something a brick."<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/oldphone.jpg" /> <br /><br />It's amazing how far we've come, isn't it? I wonder where we'll be in 2023?

Kati Compton
03-16-2003, 11:12 PM
My first "mobile" phone was a carphone. As in, secured to the car. Hard to remember those. ;) That would have been '92.

dMores
03-16-2003, 11:12 PM
hmm....
isn't this more of a carphone than a cellphone?

or did you have to glue the external antenna onto your hat?

hehe :)

cool stuff.

i still remember the portable phone my dad once got from his boss. it was like a business case with a shoulder strap.

dh
03-16-2003, 11:20 PM
My first cellphone was installed in my car just like Jasons, obviously analog only as well.

After I had traded the car, I still had the handset (too much aggro to get the rest uninstalled) which I traded in at the local phone store for a new one. I got $50.00 for it if I remember correctly.

I must admit, that old analog car installation had great signal strength, it would work anywhere.

After the car phone my next one was really portable, one of those AT&T bag phones. It was like lugging a car battery around.

Sheynk
03-16-2003, 11:28 PM
I remember my first cell.....

http://a.r.tv.com/cnet.1d/i/uff/20670660/ovr/20670660_1_overview_300.gif

oh wait... Im 16....I got my first cell this year!!!

ahmed
03-16-2003, 11:37 PM
in 2023

small device no more than 3"(~7.5 cm) by 2"(~5cm) by 0.5"(0.75cm)
less than 100 gram

200 up tp 300 DPI for display with 24-bit color
foldable OLED display (2 up to 4 levels of Unfolded) >1600*1200 in(Unfolded completely mode)

Processor speed >=10 Gigahertz
RAM an ROM >=4 GB

Support all mobile networks (GSM...etc)

... + 802.11b + Bluetooth wirless network (no wires every thing wirless including vedio and audio input+output)
Advanced battery life time >48 hour + >2weeks stand-by time (fase recharge &lt;1 hour)

>1 TB hard drive (TB=Tira Byte=1024 GB)

Real OS (like Microsoft® Windows® XP Palm-Size Tablet PC Edition)

DaleReeck
03-16-2003, 11:45 PM
I had one of the first "true" portable phones, one of those Radio Shack thin walkie-talkie-looking phones. It was heavy, made out of mostly metal and I think the nicad battery lasted like a day or two :) Cost $1000 at the time...

Paragon
03-16-2003, 11:58 PM
hmm....
isn't this more of a carphone than a cellphone?

I think you are dating yourself. This IS a cellphone. There were no handheld cellphones when I bought this device. This was as portable as they got. It wasn't long after that the bag type that dh mentioned came along. :)

Dave

Weyoun6
03-17-2003, 12:30 AM
Here is what I think 2023 will look like...

PDAs are either implants or a (more likely) a HUD and really small earbud.

People will be arguing about the latest AxPaq, callling it a "brick" because it is .0000005 mm bigger and .00075 oz heavier than the competition.

We will anxiously await the arrival of Bluetooth 2, hoping for fufilment of all our dreams of wireless communication, or at least that some devices will be compatible.

We will debate over whether the latest new technology (Full 3D Immersion) is worthwhile, some arguing W?BIC!

Printer sales will be up 25% from previous years, proving once again that the Paperless office does not exist.

Sony comes out with the Memory Stick 2, forgetting that all of us have moved on to holograms

Paragon
03-17-2003, 01:00 AM
You forgot to mention if the OS will be optimized for Xscale. Or if there will be full versions of Word, and Excel on PPCs. :)

My vision of where we will be with mobile computing in twenty years is this:

Handheld computers/communicators will be a large part of everyones lives. Hardware-wise I think devices will be very collapsible. Screens, and keyboards will roll or fold up. We can wear them much like the small communicators portrayed on Star Trek. A simple touch will active the voice and camera functions. Or you can unclip the device unfold it and use it much like we do our Pocket PCs today. The network technology will be a satellite based system that will blanket the earth, and allow for secure network connections for data as well as one on one conversations and the likes. Storage will not be a huge issue since you will be able to access and use all the information you need on your base system or wherever you have authorization to access.

I don't think there is anything I have said that is to far out especially when you consider where we have come since I bought the phone system pictured. Back then "The information Highway" had hardly been mentioned, if at all. The thought of being able to connect to a world wide system of computers from a park bench was totally unimaginable. Yet here we are.

Dave

Ekkie Tepsupornchai
03-17-2003, 01:32 AM
I remember my first cell.....

oh wait... Im 16....I got my first cell this year!!!

:rofl:

Kids!!

Back to the original photo, I was still in college when those bulky phones first came out. I remember my mother had one. Battery life was good for like 20 minutes. It was big enough that you could beat someone over the head with!!

Reza
03-17-2003, 01:33 AM
"I wonder where we'll be in 2023?
Let's just hope they'll fix that #$*@ ActivSync by then… :cry:

phanprod
03-17-2003, 01:34 AM
It's 2023 - you pull a credit card sized device from your wallet and unfold it like a peice of paper. The device uses electronic ink, and the backing itself is electro-luminecent, allowing either indoor or outdoor use. You can use a stylus or your finger to interface with it. The OS automatically adjusts itself to how much you've unfolded it - from a very basic view in it's initial credit card size, to a full screen OS when fully expanded. This device is merely a tranceiver, communicating through a new breed of wireless network to your home system. No storage, no cpu limitations... merely a terminal limited only by the amount of bandwidth you've subscribed to.

This device is an extention of your daily life --- your PDA, your cell phone, your entertainment device... it does it all because it's not dedicated to one function. Accessories are available - wireless earbuds and near-eye displays for various functions. Keyboards and other accessories are also available - depending on your desire. All using this universal wireless protocall.

This card is biometric in some way -- most likely a thumbprint. Security is key... this device is everything to you. You make purchases, open your house and start your car, receive traffic summonses, exchange contact info - all based around this one device. But there's nothing stored on it, so if it is lost or stolen, it's simply replaced with a new unit at an extremely affordable price.

Your phone number is a new IP address - designed to signify your presence in this technologically advanced time. When at home or work, calls made to you will be transferred to the local phone units. On the road, they will be answered using the earbud (if you've subscribed). Video will be an option that many people will still opt not to use for privacy's sake. Email and web surfing can be done wherever & whenever, thanks to a new broadband data compression utilizing satellites and existing wireless networks. No more will we worry about GSM, CDMA, etc... ---- it will all be standard.

Ok.... that was a lot longer than I had planned, si I'll stop here. :lol:

phanprod
03-17-2003, 01:45 AM
Wow... my last post was WAY off on a rant...

I remember having a huge cell phone like that mounted in the ol' car. We went for a road trip from NY to Florida - forgetting to shut the phone off. Well, can I just tell you about the roaming charges just for passing through another company's coverage area... not even using the phone - just receiving their signal.... $$$$$$$$$$$$

Cracknell
03-17-2003, 02:23 AM
Anybody remember those white brick motrola phone?

that was from the day when you own a beeper it means you are a drug dealer and calling people outside home means pocket full of loose change. lol

I still remember when calling card was the coolest invention in phone calling technology for me. :D

hopefully by 2010, wireless phone will be free as breathing air, except maybe with that snooping thing. But not to worry, a guy from MIT has find a near impossible to crack encryption method using natural comm airwave as a one time patch.

SeanH
03-17-2003, 03:31 AM
I had that exact cell phone in 1985. I think it was an NEC. I have owned two cell phones over the last 18 years, that NEC unit back in 1985 and about 5 years ago I bought a Nokia 6160 that is still working great. I have owned two PDA’s in my life also. The first unit was a Palm Pro I picked up in late 1995 and a Compaq iPAQ 3630 that was purchased Sept 2000. Both units I kept up to date with the latest OS upgrades. The old Palm Pro has the same limitations of Palm’s today. And the iPAQ is running the latest OS PPC 2K2 with EUU 3 the same OS that ships with the latest units today.

Paragon
03-17-2003, 03:43 AM
This one is actually a Novatel 8350, but it could easily be branded something else outside Canada.

Hmmm... My first PDA was a Palm although it was a III. My first PPC was an 3650 Ipaq......What was your first wife's name. :D

Dave

Steven Cedrone
03-17-2003, 03:44 AM
My first cell phone was a Motorola "bag" phone...The one that amazed me the most: my Motorola S3855A. I loved that flip phone!!! By today's standards, a piece of crap, but back then - revolutionary!!! One other thing: that flip was called a "Digital Personal Communicator" - it was an analog phone but it had a "digital" display... :lol:

Steve

Paul
03-17-2003, 03:46 AM
Here's what NTT DoCoMo (http://www.nttdocomo.com/vision2010/broadband_wm.html) has to say.

Some exciting stuff. Those Japanese are so inventive... oh, it's pretty chessy too

guinness
03-17-2003, 04:54 AM
My first cell phone was an Ericsson T60 that I got last summer...and I already want a better one, but Cingular has a bad selection of phones, although I like the service. I actually want that new Samsung phone that's coming out at the end of the year, sounds nifty even if it is running Palm OS 5.2, 300 MHz XScale, 32 MB ram, Java, etc. That or one that has a built-in camera, like the P800.

rfischer
03-17-2003, 05:21 AM
Wow! That thing belongs in a museum! :-D

ctmagnus
03-17-2003, 05:41 AM
...but Cingular has a bad selection of phones...

Try Telus. :(

David C
03-17-2003, 05:43 AM
Here's what NTT DoCoMo has to say.

wow.... it is very innovative. I wish more company are future minded like this. In the US, it seems like most of the major telecom provider are more intrested in what the next 3 fiscal year's profit is going to be like, rather then what technology or innovation they would bring about. I work for Sprint as a retail tech support. Although I thougt Sprint is pretty good at keeping ahead. I don't feel like innovation is the top prioity at this company. I see more people confused about PDA and wireless data, and wishing for simplicity then innovation and foward thinking.

Janak Parekh
03-17-2003, 06:37 AM
Here's what NTT DoCoMo has to say. wow.... it is very innovative. I wish more company are future minded like this.
Japan is a special exception. ekkie can tell you about their electronics markets. You're talking different planets here. :D

--janak

ChuckyRose
03-17-2003, 09:27 AM
You're talking different planets here.

I think that's putting it mildly! Every time I go into work with something new/really cool that I've read about or heard about online, there's always someone there who has either already heard about it(for quite some time), knows a friend with one or owns/uses it themselves. And I live in the boonies too! There's a reason my pocketbook has seen fatter times...

bjornkeizers
03-17-2003, 10:24 AM
Lol, I still remember my first cell phone.. Being a child of the nineties, I got my first one.. I think it was somewhere '95/'96.. A Sagem.. the only thing you could do with it was make and, if you were lucky, recieve calls. There was no such thing as total coverage back then, and not many people had them. Now, after the '98 boom, most people own a cellphone here in the netherlands. A great deal of them prepaid. I myself own four phones :D

Saturday, I bought a new phone [i buy two new ones a year, just 'cause] A nokia 3510i.. it has a color screen, wap, gprs, sms, ems, mms, it can play java games and applications.. Compare this to a phone only two years ago!

In 20 years, I don't think there'll be anything like a phone, or a PDA, or a computer.. You get totally integrated, connected devices. I hope it will be something like a Padd, like from Star Trek. High res, maybe holographic screen.. self charging, perpetual energy fuel cells, terabyte harddrive, built in cell phone functionality w/ video, file transfer, etc. of course, everything voice activated

You could make a video call, transfer files, work on a common whiteboard, download movies, play games, handle your finances, book flights, surf the net, etc. etc. and all of this on one devices, connected wirelessly over a completely free and open network technology, faster then anything we can think of right now.

Anyone want to place a bet how many I get right in 20 years time? :D

Ekkie Tepsupornchai
03-17-2003, 02:15 PM
Japan is a special exception. ekkie can tell you about their electronics markets. You're talking different planets here. :D

--janak
I'll tell you what, worked in Japan for 13 months and at the time I started traveling there (May 2001), the phone to have in the US was that shiny silver Nokia (the model number escapes me) that cost around $400.

My manager had one of those phones and then we go to Japan and were given these complimentary cheapie phones to use while there (international roaming isn't very supported there). This "cheap" phone had a huge reflective color display (which would still put today's T68 to shame) that could be used in speaker mode and came complete with wireless internet and email and downloadable rings / screen savers / backgrounds, etc. It was also light as a feather and gave you surprisingly good battery life. This phone could be found nearly anywhere in Japan for around $50. Compare that with my manager's 4-line-text-display Nokia which cost him about 8x the price... needless to say our Japanese counterparts were not impressed with the Nokia!!

We may have come a long way in our evolution of technology, but when it comes to mobile communications, Japan always seem to be several steps ahead of everyone else.

rlobrecht
03-17-2003, 02:19 PM
Wired is running an article (well a one page shorty) of their 2013 wishlist. http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.04/fetishwish.html

EHenry
03-17-2003, 03:31 PM
Well, to be fair, while phones have improved a lot, much of the improvement has come on the network side of the system.

CDMA and GSM networks require an order of magnitude less power on the phone side which makes it a heck of a lot easier to shrink 'em down. Batteries have improved and there's been a lot of chip-level integration.

That being said, with the Pocket PC phones it's like having a Pocket PC and getting a phone for free. :D