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Andy Sjostrom
01-30-2003, 09:39 AM
<a href="http://www.brains-n-brawn.com/default.aspx?vDir=freespeech">http://www.brains-n-brawn.com/default.aspx?vDir=freespeech</a><br /><br />By now, you all know Phillip "pt" Torrone. Crazy, cool and you can never tell what that guy is up to next. I've found an <i>almost</i> as crazy Pocket PC developer: casey chesnut. Not only do they both come up with "Project Cool" over and over again, but they see them through and... have a tendency of using lower case. all the time. Some of you might remember casey's <a href="http://www.brains-n-brawn.com/default.aspx?vDir=nosink">"/noSink LocationBased KillerApp"</a>. Now, casey is up to no good again! Voice recording on Pocket PC, XML Web Service to server, speech recognition on server, return text to Pocket PC. If you think that's cool, check out the <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/files/freedom.wmv">video</a>!

Peter Foot
01-30-2003, 11:03 AM
The guy's a genius no doubt about it. What a brilliant idea and cool demonstrations!

cesarfong
01-30-2003, 02:14 PM
this guys is really a crazy developer i 've jus t read some of his articles.. really cool!!!!

The UML explanation is very clear in this article :)

Daniel
01-30-2003, 03:16 PM
Um, is the video broken or is it just me?

Daniel

Pony99CA
01-30-2003, 03:30 PM
Too bad he can't make his Web site work properly with Mozilla. :roll: Under IE, it looks OK, but it's totally messed up in Mozilla.

Steve

Gerard
01-30-2003, 04:38 PM
(ppct STILL fails to utilize cookies to recognize me.... dammit)
"frames are bad, but i am worse ...
upgrade to a browser that supports iframes"
That's cute. Why bother linking to a story/page/whatever it is when Pocket IE can't access it? I mean, if it's on the top of the new 'mobile version' page, shouldn't a PIE user be able to just tap the story link and see.... anything?! Or am I nitpicking? Sorry, but I don't crank up my PC more than a couple of times a week, and usually just to burn a CD or something. So PIE is pretty much it. Am I alone in wanting a truly mobile site, and proper adherance to HTML standards in general?

feo
01-30-2003, 04:39 PM
Is it a virus? 8O
Was he ever in the proximity of PT? :roll:
or was PT ever in the proximity of this guy? :?:
Oh boy, we are going to have another eternal question of what was first, the chicken or the egg?...
Cool stuff!!! - and that is just that bit that I uderstood (I am an artist) :D

jmarkevich
01-30-2003, 05:22 PM
(ppct STILL fails to utilize cookies to recognize me.... dammit)
"frames are bad, but i am worse ...
upgrade to a browser that supports iframes"
Am I alone in wanting a truly mobile site, and proper adherance to HTML standards in general?

Nope, A few of us had to mungle it to work in Mozilla...

I still can't get the thing to work in IE either.

He might have renamed winword.exe to freedom.wmv for all I know.

STANDARDS, people!!! They're EASIER to implement!

Andy Sjostrom
01-30-2003, 05:27 PM
Um, is the video broken or is it just me?

Daniel

My bad. Link is now fixed!

Andy Sjostrom
01-30-2003, 05:29 PM
Too bad he can't make his Web site work properly with Mozilla. :roll: Under IE, it looks OK, but it's totally messed up in Mozilla.

Steve

Yup. Isn't Mozilla totally messed up? :lol:

kcchesnut
01-30-2003, 06:43 PM
i'm the guy in question.
here is a non frame / iframed link directly to the article.

http://www.mperfect.net/freeSpeech/

complaining to me about mozilla does no good,
i dont work on that product

thanks
casey

Andy Sjostrom
01-30-2003, 06:48 PM
i'm the guy in question.
here is a non frame / iframed link directly to the article.

http://www.mperfect.net/freeSpeech/

complaining to me about mozilla does no good,
i dont work on that product

thanks
casey

Casey! Welcome to Pocket PC Thoughts! I am a long time fan of your work! Keep it up! 8)

ctmagnus
01-30-2003, 10:19 PM
Am I alone in wanting a truly mobile site, and proper adherance to HTML standards in general?

No. Mobile is good and so are standards. I recommend this book (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/wdnut2/) for all that kinda stuff.

johncj
01-31-2003, 03:28 PM
Am I alone in wanting a truly mobile site, and proper adherance to HTML standards in general?

No, but almost, at least in the U.S. According to a recently released study:

The report found 5 percent of people who go online do so through a cell phone, while 2.5 percent accessed the Internet via a personal digital assistant. [1]

How does a developer justify expending the effort to create a mobile site, when so few people will use it? Of course, until there are optimized sites, why would anybody surf wirelessly? We need to look to the tool vendors to solve this problem. It has to be essentially free for site developers to create mobile sites.

[1]http://news.com.com/2100-1023-982882.html

kcchesnut
01-31-2003, 04:36 PM
i did start to make a mobile interface ...
wrote the content in xml,
and then used xslt to render for desktop and ppc.
browsing it on my own ppc,
i found it very unsatisfying.
xml and code dumps in particular,
to the point of being unusable for its intended purpose.
if my articles were just news briefs it would be fine,
but they arent ... they are articles for developers;
and development is done on desktop machines.

now i do have a mobile pr0n site.
offline because my current isp wont let me host it.
it looks great on a ppc