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Monty Gibson
01-03-2003, 07:19 PM
...will NOT let you send e-mail via their servers but will allow you to receive e-mail. The server settings are as follows: smtp-server.tampabay.rr.com and pop-server.tampabay.rr.com. So, what's the issue with this? Does anyone have any idea? I signed up with http://www.softhome.net and got a free POP3/SMTP email box to send email while "on-the-go" but what a waste of time. I am disgruntled with :snipersmile: RoadRunner :bad-words:!
Any advice, anyone else with TimeWarner Cable (RoadRunner) having this same issue?
Janak Parekh
01-03-2003, 07:34 PM
Ah, you're looking for an SMTP server to use. Welcome to the big problem of wireless email. Most ISP's have this problem - they will only let you send mail if you're connected to their network. It's set up that way to prevent spammers from using their servers to send mail to end-users.
Does anyone know if T-Mobile provides an SMTP server to use? They'd be the logical ones...
--janak
Monty Gibson
01-03-2003, 07:46 PM
Does anyone know if T-Mobile provides an SMTP server to use? They'd be the logical ones...
--janak
Holy crap, I didn't even think about calling them. I will let you know what they say... :oops:
Monty Gibson
01-03-2003, 08:08 PM
Does anyone know if T-Mobile provides an SMTP server to use? They'd be the logical ones...
--janak
So, I called T-Mobile. They don't have any feature of this nature :shocked!: Shocked?! No.
Janak Parekh
01-03-2003, 08:52 PM
No, I'm not surprised. :cry:
It's shortsightedness on T-Mobile's part. I wonder what laptop users with their service use. Me, I'm a special case, I have my own server that I ssh to and use port forwarding to get SMTP service. That's what happens when you're your own sysadmin.
Sorry I can't be of much help, but one recourse might be to do a Google newsgroup search on "T-Mobile SMTP GPRS" or something like that.
Good luck.
--janak
Dave Beauvais
01-03-2003, 09:15 PM
You might try seeing if RoadRunner's SMTP server(s) support SMTPAuth. I just made a quick page describing what it is and how to set it up on the Pocket PC. Check it out here (http://www.beauvais1.com/ppc/smtpauth.html).
--Dave
Monty Gibson
01-03-2003, 09:21 PM
You might try seeing if RoadRunner's SMTP server(s) support SMTPAuth. I just made a quick page describing what it is and how to set it up on the Pocket PC. Check it out here (http://www.beauvais1.com/ppc/smtpauth.html).
--Dave
I do appreciate it, but I've tried this too :cry:. It just doesn't work with :2gunfire: RoadRunner. Thank you for your efforts though.
Dave Beauvais
01-03-2003, 10:02 PM
I do appreciate it, but I've tried this too :cry:. It just doesn't work with :2gunfire: RoadRunner. Thank you for your efforts though.
<sigh> Oh well. I don't do a lot of outgoing e-mail on my Pocket PC, but when I do, I'm often not at home, which means I can't use my ISP's SMTP server. (Mine doesn't do SMTPAuth, either.) Instead, I'll either use my Yahoo (http://mail.yahoo.com/) account (I paid for the POP3/Forwarding option), or my FastMail (http://www.fastmail.fm) IMAP account, both of which do utilize SMTPAuth to allow me to send e-mail from anywhere.
Incidentally, I highly recommend FastMail (http://www.fastmail.fm). They have options ranging from free, to a low $14.95 one-time "Member" account, to more costly subscription options. They are very flexible, offer IMAP access for all account levels, as well as having a clean Web-based e-mail system. I paid for the one-time $14.95 membership which allows me to use their SMTP server along with IMAP. They even have illustrated instructions for setting up their service on the Pocket PC! :) (Note: I have no affiliation with FastMail aside from being a satisfied user.)
I actually run an SMTP server (http://www.mailutilities.com/adr/) locally on my laptop so that no matter where I am or what network I'm on, I never have to worry about not having a SMTP server available to me. It comes in very handy! Unfortuantely, the company that makes the server I use also makes many programs which I have no doubt are used for spamming purposes. :x
--Dave
peace
02-04-2003, 12:49 AM
I called T-Mobile customer support. Although they don't offer an SMTP server (bah!), the customer support rep did give me some useful information. www.hotpop.com offers free POP and SMTP servers! You can send from any address using SMTP Authorization. Basically, all you need to do is check email from the POP server to Authenticate, then you have a window of ~30 minutes to send from your IP address. The Ericsson T68i automatically does this form of authentication for me :wink:
One final note... I struggled with the setup for a while before I found out that the Reply-To (or Return) address must be set to the Hotpop adress that you authenticate with. I wanted to set my return address to my tmomail.net account so replies would go straight to the phone. Now the replies go to hotpop and I have to check with the phone manually. I don't want to check automatically because that eats up bytes.
Good luck.
Peace
PS: Hotpop's basic service w/ads is free. I find the ads to be innocuous and unobtrusive. YMMV.
gareth
02-04-2003, 09:49 AM
Ah, you're looking for an SMTP server to use. Welcome to the big problem of wireless email. Most ISP's have this problem - they will only let you send mail if you're connected to their network. It's set up that way to prevent spammers from using their servers to send mail to end-users.
Does anyone know if T-Mobile provides an SMTP server to use? They'd be the logical ones...
--janak
AHA! So that's why I can't get my mail service to work either!
I tried sending an e-mail the other day from my XDA, and it just sat there and sat there and.... well, you get the idea.
Frustrating thing is, I have an e-mail account with BTInternet, which is part of British Telecom, who own O2, who badge and sell the XDA in the UK!
:really mad:
So I have to use their internet mail service instead.
Does anyone else in the UK have the same problem?
AdrianP
02-04-2003, 07:03 PM
Try setting up an o2 account from www.o2.co.uk... I've done that and had no problems. I have a feeling that o2 lets you use their outgoing mail server whatever ISP you use for your e-mail, anyway e.g. you could get your incoming mail from your BT Internet account and send outgoing mail via the o2 SMTP server.
o2 are also running a free trial of some software called XMail which basically allows you to pick up e-mail which is sitting on an Exchange Server... I'm using that which is going quite well.
So not necessarily ideal, but a lot better than T-Mobile... :wink: ? Now where's that EUU1 Rom Update... :roll:
JvanEkris
02-04-2003, 07:32 PM
There are very few ISPs-providers that allow you to use the SMTP without being logged in. I had the same problem with the (*&%$(&^_&* of T-Mobile Netherlands. They promissed to set up an SMTP, but after a year of waiting, still no solution. My conclusion: they are lazy, greedy b******.
possible solution
i use fastmail (www.fastmail.fm). It requires an entry fee, but it is an extremely good mail-provider, allowing you to use their SMTP. I have been using it for six months now, never any problems, always fast and reliable.
Jaap
Monty Gibson
02-04-2003, 11:44 PM
There are very few ISPs-providers that allow you to use the SMTP without being logged in. I had the same problem with the (*&%$(&^_&* of T-Mobile Netherlands. They promissed to set up an SMTP, but after a year of waiting, still no solution. My conclusion: they are lazy, greedy b******.
possible solution
i use fastmail (www.fastmail.fm). It requires an entry fee, but it is an extremely good mail-provider, allowing you to use their SMTP. I have been using it for six months now, never any problems, always fast and reliable.
Jaap
Using www.softhome.net it's not only free but very reliable too. But, I am about to change this too... I am setting up my own site and bypassing all this rigmarole so everything will run at my command and at my bidding (Yes, as a matter of fact, I am a control freak).
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