The Pocket PC Thoughts Timezone

[Jason Dunn]

All this talk about our contest has given rise to some discussions around time zone, and in a burst of "regionalcentrism", I didn't really think it all through when talking about it. So, for reference sake, the server is on Mountain Standard Time, which is GMT -7. Regardless of what time zone our correspondents are in, their posts cue up in MST. Hope that makes sense to everyone! So for those of you in places around the world where it's already 2003, it will be a little over six hours until the fun starts. The good news is that the giveaways will last for many hours, so it should be fair for everyone no matter where you are in the world. :D

[Rirath]

I'm ready to stay up, alert, and at the PC for 24 hours. :twisted:

[Duncan]

Only 6 hours and 12 minutes to go then... no make that 11 minutes... no sorry 10 minutes (damn I type slow wen I'm drunk!!!) - hey - this is what I could do to fill the hours!!!

[bljarv]

Only 6 hours and 12 minutes to go then... no make that 11 minutes... no sorry 10 minutes (damn I type slow wen I'm drunk!!!) - hey - this is what I could do to fill the hours!!!
Very funny!

[Rirath]

Duncan: Pocket PC Intellectual... when sober. :wink:

[Ed Hansberry]

Friends don't let friends compute drunk.

:drinking:

And yeah, there is like 18 hrs of fun tomorrow.

[mashtim]

Wait, is that taking Daylight Savings Time into account or not? :wink:

Oh yeah, what about those of us flying from Brussels to Sydney to Paris to New Yawk? Do we get multiple start times?

You know, someone should get this egg nog away from me.... dang... looks like Duncan stole it!

BTW, Jason, I really dig that new word you just made up.... regionalcentrism.... just rolls right off the tongue!

[JonnoB]

BTW, Jason, I really dig that new word you just made up.... regionalcentrism.... just rolls right off the tongue!

Is there region envy going on here? Hip hip hooray for PST !

[Duncan]

You think I was sober when I started FirstLoox.org? :wink:

Actually - it's just past 1 am GMT - so averaging out the bottles of wine remaining between those still awake - and factoring in an ever decreasing drinking rate - I should still be awake and drinking in six hours time -

Mashtim - if you can persuade the pilot to fly over Suffolk (England) and let yopu parachute down - you can share this particularly fine vintage (1996) of New World champagne with us!!! 8)

[Jason Dunn]

BTW, Jason, I really dig that new word you just made up.... regionalcentrism.... just rolls right off the tongue!

Hehe...there's no good word for it. What's the regional/time-zone equivalent of "enthocentrism"? I couldn't think of one. :lol:

I'm off to be with the wife and friends for the evening - have a good night everyone! Be safe!

[Duncan]

Now if the whole world went with GMT - problem solved... :wink:

[DrtyBlvd]

Let's start a movement :D

[DrtyBlvd]

What happened to Internet time anyways? Was it 'Beats' or something?

[JonnoB]

Perhaps it should be a 'stardate' or just referenced as total 'jiffies' since 1980 (that is when the computer clock seemed to have started).

[Ed Hansberry]

Perhaps it should be a 'stardate' or just referenced as total 'jiffies' since 1980 (that is when the computer clock seemed to have started).
I'd bet in 50 years or less there will just be a world time and all this nonsense with timezones will be gone. The problem then though is when does a new day start?

[JonnoB]

I'd bet in 50 years or less there will just be a world time and all this nonsense with timezones will be gone. The problem then though is when does a new day start?

I used to have a discussion with my father about metric vs imperial system and the idea that there would eventually be a 10-day week.... if for no other reason than to get people to work 8 out of 10 days instead of 5 out of 7. ha ha

The problem with 'world-time' is that eventually our world won't be the only one... we will have to base time on something more constant and 'universal' - hence the 'stardate' astronomical based time system suggested :)

The closest we have to 'world-time' is GMT, but do you want to say, "meet me in NY and -5:30" ?

[DrtyBlvd]

Found it - Swatch - http://swatch.com/fs_index.php?haupt=itime

PDF Data here http://swatch.com/internettime/downloads/internet_time_brochure.pdf

[markht]

I'm off to be with the wife and friends for the evening - have a good night everyone! Be safe!

Have a good time Jason, I will be at home with my two best friends: my wife and Dom Perignon :D

Mark (who works at a domain registrar)

o o o O (hmm, time to go mess with the DNS for PocketPCThoughts.com so only I can access the site and get all the cool prizes :twisted: )

[profe]

You guys are sounding really drunk! :drinking: :pukeface: It's a good thing you're computing and NOT driving!

Happy New Year to all of you! :smilecolros:

--Alan

[Seraph1024]

I am waiting for 2003 and all the contests...

Let's see if I win anything... But to all of us online/and off line, happy newyear and wish this year is better for many of us in the IT industry.

Lwin

[kao123]

Well (hic) It's 2 am Jan 1 2003 here in Dublin the fireworks are over and I managed to get a taxi home unlike the poor unfortunates still wandering around in the pouring rain.... Whatever timezone you are in I wish you all a Happy New Year :drinking:

Can't believe I can still type :D

[RKosin]

It is that we just had too much excitment at Y2K...oh, the good old days :bday:

[spg]

Well, hope everyone has a great time tonight! I personally am just going to sit and home and relax. No drinking. Because if I was drinking alcohol, you would have to arrest me. :D Anyway, Happy New Year to everyone! :rainbowafro:

[BugDude10]

Hey, great party in this room!

Where's the bar???

:silly:

[Jonathon Watkins]

It's behind you - the others are propping it up. :P :new-bday: :beer:

Happy Birthday New Year! :wink:

[3xistenz]

Happy New Year!!!! :D

[Jonathon Watkins]

I used to have a discussion with my father about metric vs imperial system and the idea that there would eventually be a 10-day week.... if for no other reason than to get people to work 8 out of 10 days instead of 5 out of 7. ha ha

I seem to remember that the French tried that after the revolution. It didn't work. Our bodies seem to work best in a 7 day rhythm. Odd that, almost like it was designed that way. :wink:

[Rirath]

I seem to remember that the French tried that after the revolution. It didn't work. Our bodies seem to work best in a 7 day rhythm. Odd that, almost like it was designed that way.

Best is a state of mind. 8 hours of sleep, remember that? Who on Earth follows that these days? If you want a 7 day week, then you're gonna function on a 7 day week. Heh, I'm A-ok on three hours sleep a night for weeks at a time sometimes, then other times I sleep 10 hours just for a change. I hate getting into some boring routine where if something changes, you feel horrible all day. I end up somehow switching sleeping schedules completely every few weeks.

My sincere hope is sometime in the near future they perfect the anti-sleeping methods. There's already several drugs being developed for various uses that could allow a person to function completely alert and normal for 48 hours without sleep, sleep for 8, and feel perfectly normal and healthy the next day. I for one would completely welcome a even more 24 hour world, we're moving there... slowly.

Before someone goes into the "mental effects of long term sleep deprivation", most of that is still being studied and worked out. It's not a blanket rule, it effects everyone differently. Several people, including myself, would welcome it. Others cherish their sleep. To each his own.

[ECOslin]

Happy New Years

Wish I had thought to buy a flak vest with all the ammo that's being expended tonight.

Edward

[Gadgetguyinva]

Happy New Year Everyone!
:D

[Rirath]

A helmet seems like a better investment to me... seems most of it will rain from above after gravity grabs hold and yanks it back down. Or maybe it's just around here the news stations pleed with the folk every year not to shoot guns in the air.

[blazingwolf]

Happy New year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :multi: :new-bday: :drinking:

[ECOslin]

I think some of these folks may not be firing into the air. Or beyond the point of caring where the air is.

Edward

[Kevin C. Tofel]

Best wishes to all for a great 2003!

KCT :P

[Kati Compton]

A helmet seems like a better investment to me... seems most of it will rain from above after gravity grabs hold and yanks it back down. Or maybe it's just around here the news stations pleed with the folk every year not to shoot guns in the air.

Yes - it seems that every year there's 1-2 people in the greater Chicagoland area that get hit by falling bullets.

[Freak]

:D

[Jonathon Watkins]

I think some of these folks may not be firing into the air. Or beyond the point of caring where the air is.

Edward

Hmmm - come on over to the great G of B, we don't have any guns here. :D (or at least not any that people can randomly fire away with).

Here's a few link to some nice pic of the celibrations. :P http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/2618407.stm

[Kati Compton]

I'm depressed. I'll be asleep through most of the giveaways. :(

[Rirath]

Sounds like you'll have time tomorrow.

[Kati Compton]

Hopefully - but I'll have fewer chances. ;) Which I would probably need given my luck so far this month, what with being horribly pukey a few days before Christmas and then being in a car accident this weekend. But tomorrow is a new year, so hopefully my luck will change for the better.

[Dave Conger]

I'll be asleep through most of the giveaways. :(

Glad I am still on "college time" :wink:

[Janak Parekh]

I'm depressed. I'll be asleep through most of the giveaways. :(
Actually, no, you won't. Unless you're sleeping the whole day. :)

--janak

[ECOslin]

I think some of these folks may not be firing into the air. Or beyond the point of caring where the air is.

Edward

Hmmm - come on over to the great G of B, we don't have any guns here. :D (or at least not any that people can randomly fire away with).

Here's a few link to some nice pic of the celibrations. :P http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/2618407.stm

I thought y'all had hunting guns, and shotguns. I had heard that other guns could be licensed with a little work. I stuck around a week in GB, once, couldn't see much for fairly thick fog, just hit ground the wrong week.

There's an annoying difference between they were out to get you and a random incident.

Edward

[Jonathon Watkins]

I thought y'all had hunting guns, and shotguns. I had heard that other guns could be licensed with a little work. I stuck around a week in GB, once, couldn't see much for fairly thick fog, just hit ground the wrong week.

Ummmm, not quite. Apart from Japan, we apparently have some of the toughest laws on gun ownership in the world. You can only own a .22 target pistol IF it is kept under lock and key at registered gun club and only used there. You can get a shotgun IF you NEED it for your work – i.e. you are a farmer etc. There has been talk about banning air guns, or at least raising the age to buy one to 21.

They don't like us doing this.... :2gunfire:

[Rirath]

New Years here... finally. Boring as ever too. If ever there was a holiday to sleep through. :wink:
Now another hour to wait around and see what all the fuss is about. :wink:

[JonnoB]

I used to have a discussion with my father about metric vs imperial system and the idea that there would eventually be a 10-day week.... if for no other reason than to get people to work 8 out of 10 days instead of 5 out of 7. ha ha

I seem to remember that the French tried that after the revolution. It didn't work. Our bodies seem to work best in a 7 day rhythm. Odd that, almost like it was designed that way. :wink:

Ultimately we both agreed that the 7-day week was here to stay - more of a grand design than we could comprehend. We then would discuss how it would not make sense... how do you make a year based on the unit 10 when there are physically only 365 days? In fact, what makes 10 so special other than that is how many digits most people have on their hands?

[Rirath]

So 10 is no special number but 7 is a grand design beyond comprehension? :wink:

[szamot]

Midnight mountain time that's what I call Alberta Advantage!

[The Big Jay]

BTW, Jason, I really dig that new word you just made up.... regionalcentrism.... just rolls right off the tongue!

Hehe...there's no good word for it. What's the regional/time-zone equivalent of "enthocentrism"? I couldn't think of one. :lol:

I'm off to be with the wife and friends for the evening - have a good night everyone! Be safe!

Chronocentrism?

[The Big Jay]

I used to have a discussion with my father about metric vs imperial system and the idea that there would eventually be a 10-day week.... if for no other reason than to get people to work 8 out of 10 days instead of 5 out of 7. ha ha

I seem to remember that the French tried that after the revolution. It didn't work. Our bodies seem to work best in a 7 day rhythm. Odd that, almost like it was designed that way. :wink:

Ultimately we both agreed that the 7-day week was here to stay - more of a grand design than we could comprehend. We then would discuss how it would not make sense... how do you make a year based on the unit 10 when there are physically only 365 days? In fact, what makes 10 so special other than that is how many digits most people have on their hands?

It's easier to multiply. Just like it's easy to multiply by powers of 2 in hardware.

[ExtremeSIMS]

Phew - made it home safely, only one noticeable drunk on the road. Wife, car, and Toshiba e740 all in one piece.

Happy New Year! My wishes for a safe 2003 to everyone.

EDIT: I guess to follow tradition, I should include my previous PDAs.

Palm Pro, Palm III, Palm IIIx, Casio A-20, Jornada 620LX, Jornada 720, Casio EM-500, Casio E-115, Casio E-125, Sharp Zaurus SL-5500, Toshiba e740

[Jeff Rutledge]

Midnight mountain time that's what I call Alberta Advantage!

I don't know about that. I was pretty excited when I thought it was going to be midnight EST so I could have started at 10pm my time. 8)

Oh well, I'll start a steady diet of Coke in a few minutes.... 8O 8O 8O

[Jonathon Watkins]

So it's only 30 minutes away then???? 8O OOOohhhhh. :P

[spg]

Well all add my chime to the flurry. Happy new year from Oklahoma everybody! May your 2003 be filled with joy... and Pocket PCs! :bday:

[Gadgetguyinva]

Must.stay.awake.

Good luck in advance everyone -- hope we all win something kewl ;)

[Jonathon Watkins]

Must.stay.awake.

Good luck in advance everyone -- hope we all win something kewl ;)

Especially you, as you only joined for the contests. :lol:

[The Big Jay]

Must.stay.awake.

Good luck in advance everyone -- hope we all win something kewl ;)

Especially you, as you only joined for the contests. :lol:

He has two posts now, so he's no longer only joining for the contests :)

[ariza1]

Happy New Year to all you on the East coast...I know you head is beggin for that pillow but your heart has you here with the rest of us.....20 more minutes, we can make it :(

[ipaq-PHD]

Happy new year !!! :lol:

[Jonathon Watkins]

Must.stay.awake.

Good luck in advance everyone -- hope we all win something kewl ;)

Especially you, as you only joined for the contests. :lol:

He has two posts now, so he's no longer only joining for the contests :)

Ah - I thought I saw that as his title - but when I look now he is indeed a 'Pupil'. I thought that 'I just joined for the contests" stayed until the person got 20 or so posts? Evidently not then. :?

[Gadgetguyinva]

Well, timing IS everything. Think of me as a long time listener, first time caller. I'm new to the PPC (switched from a Palm) and have been monitoring the boards for a while and soaking up all I can. I'm still a newbie to the PPC, so I will have lots o' questions for the veterans in here. Be forewarned ;)

[Rirath]

Tip for the future then... search. :) It does get old hearing for the 3rd time in a row "Does ARM work with Xscale?"

[Jonathon Watkins]

Well, timing IS everything. Think of me as a long time listener, first time caller. I'm new to the PPC (switched from a Palm) and have been monitoring the boards for a while and soaking up all I can. I'm still a newbie to the PPC, so I will have lots o' questions for the veterans in here. Be forewarned ;)

Cool, cool, the more the merrier, Welcome Gadgetguyinva. :smilecolros:

[JonnoB]

Well, timing IS everything. Think of me as a long time listener, first time caller. I'm new to the PPC (switched from a Palm) and have been monitoring the boards for a while and soaking up all I can. I'm still a newbie to the PPC, so I will have lots o' questions for the veterans in here. Be forewarned ;)

Welcome to the new world. Your days must be brighter, your meals taste better, and things just seem to go better now that you have converted from the 'dark side.' :twisted:

[The Big Jay]

Tip for the future then... search. :) It does get old hearing for the 3rd time in a row "Does ARM work with Xscale?"

Does ARM work with XScale? Does ARM work with XScale? Does ARM work with XScale???

:)

[proutpa]

I'm in the same boat as you Gadgetguyinva.

I been reading Thoughts since the begining but only just started posting (was dedicated to Brighthand).

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY!!!!

[Jonathon Watkins]

It's getting busy in here guys. :lol: Waiting for something are we? :wink:

[RickP in AZ]

A mere 8 minutes left... So glad that being in AZ I'm currently in the same time zone so that I don't have to do any mental gymnastics... And "The Go-Go's" are playing live just down the street! Woohoo!

[Rirath]

Does ARM work with XScale? Does ARM work with XScale? Does ARM work with XScale???

It's official... we've ran out of stuff to do.

Anyhow, to answer your question: Yes, no, YES. In that order.

[Gadgetguyinva]

Thanks everyone and don't worry - I know to search before I ask. That's what I've been doing for the past couple o' weeks ;)

As for the switch from palm to ppc it's a big change (for the better, methinks). I watched Goldmember on my ppc via pocket mvp today -- how cool is that?!? Couldn't do that on my palm.

[mtillett]

What?! Somethings going to happen soon? :shocked!:

[ExtremeSIMS]

It's getting busy in here guys. :lol: Waiting for something are we? :wink:

Hard drive crash on my desktop Mac, so might as well hang in here. Winning something would help ease the pain. Sigh... shoulda stuck with SCSI....

[Jonathon Watkins]

I know there is a way of finding out who is actually logged into the board at any one time. Can anyone remember where to go to see this info? I'm curious to see who is all here.

[Rirath]

Methinks the server is slowing down a tad. :lol: Just keep posting folks so I can keep tabs on what time it officially is.

[szamot]

OK it is 5 to 12 - throw us a bone will you...anyone, anyone - they are most likely all sleeping already...hee, hee.

[Jonathon Watkins]

Thanks everyone and don't worry - I know to search before I ask. That's what I've been doing for the past couple o' weeks ;)

Good man - you can stay. :wink: :infinity:

[JonnoB]

I know there is a way of finding out who is actually logged into the board at any one time. Can anyone remember where to go to see this info? I'm curious to see who is all here.

Yes, you can link here (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewonline.php).

[frostrambler]

Me getting very excited!

[RickP in AZ]

I know there is a way of finding out who is actually logged into the board at any one time. Can anyone remember where to go to see this info? I'm curious to see who is all here.

Got to the Forum Index and scroll to the bottom of the page...

[jdavis]

so how's all this gonna work? come on i'm getting anxious!!!

[The Big Jay]

I know there is a way of finding out who is actually logged into the board at any one time. Can anyone remember where to go to see this info? I'm curious to see who is all here.

Got to the Forum Index and scroll to the bottom of the page...

What happens if you got multiple windows open?

[Rirath]

Lol, yeah... I'd laugh if it was all a hoax and there is no giveaway. They just wanted us to all flock here at midnight.

[Wilbert]

:rock on dude!:

This is my FIRST post on this site! Happy New Year to everyone!

Its time to P A R T Y!

[Jonathon Watkins]

Well THAT was fun. :roll: I decided to skip bed - and have been pressing F5 on and off for the past hour or so. No PCCthougths - natch, zip, nada, just a 'site not found' message or timeout. I guess a lot of folks were hammering it pretty hard.

[JonnoB]

We either created a simulated DOS (denial of service) or the site just went caput for an hour.

[st63z]

I know there is a way of finding out who is actually logged into the board at any one time. Can anyone remember where to go to see this info? I'm curious to see who is all here.

Got to the Forum Index and scroll to the bottom of the page...

What the heck happened on Oct 9 to get 2138 simultaneous users logging in?? 8O

[Jason Dunn]

Chronocentrism?

Ohh...I like that one! :lol:

[klinux]

The correct term would be simulated DDOS i.e. distributed denial of service. :)

[Jason Dunn]

Ah - I thought I saw that as his title - but when I look now he is indeed a 'Pupil'. I thought that 'I just joined for the contests" stayed until the person got 20 or so posts? Evidently not then. :?

No, it changes at two posts. I get enough questions with it only set at one. ;-)

[Jonathon Watkins]

What the heck happened on Oct 9 to get 2138 simultaneous users logging in?? 8O

I know what you mean - there are only 6154 registered users - so - is this a real statistic or a boo-boo?

[wrightca]

All this talk about our contest has given rise to some discussions around time zone, and in a burst of "regionalcentrism", I didn't really think it all through when talking about it. So, for reference sake, the server is on Mountain Standard Time, which is GMT -7. Regardless of what time zone our correspondents are in, their posts cue up in MST. Hope that makes sense to everyone! So for those of you in places around the world where it's already 2003, it will be a little over six hours until the fun starts. The good news is that the giveaways will last for many hours, so it should be fair for everyone no matter where you are in the world. :D

It's all good, having moved 7 timezones to the east recently has thrown everything out of whack anyway. At least everything from back home is still in the same "whack".

So that means I beat you to the new year by 8 hours! wohoo! Do I win anything for that???

[ricksfiona]

You should lock cheaters out for a month. How dare they! They get an EXCELLENT, free site AND they want to milk you guys some more. You should charge a monthly or yearly fee for this site. It's the truly cheapskates that ruin a community like this...

[pruhawk]

Jason and team,

Thanks for a great start to the New Year.