Bite the Apple, Get a Mac To Go

[marlof]

One of my pet subjects with Microsoft when it comes to Pocket PCs has been Mac synchronization. I know that the Mac is not the biggest selling platform when it comes to personal computing. But I do know that the multimedia environment that is Mac oriented might benefit a lot from a multitasking multimedia environment in their Pocket. Many Mac owners I know loved my Pocket PC, until they found out that it didn't sync with their Entourage. Past tense? Yes, because Mac owners tell me that <a href="http://www.pocketmac.net/">Pocket Mac</a> now actually works.<br /><br />At the same time, I was facing the challenge of replacing my trustworthy Sony Vaio notebook. My mother wanted to educate herself in computing, that notebook met her needs and I wanted something new anyhow, so the Vaio was given to her. I don't need a notebook now as much as I used to, and if I do, it's mostly office related, Web browsing, e-mailing or light photo editing. I don't have any work related compatibility issues, and almost anything I'd choose could do what I wanted to do. I put 2 and 2 together and figured that this was my chance to learn a new trick. <br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/bregonje/ibook.jpg" /><br /><br />So instead of going my regular route of ordering yet another Sony Vaio, I opted for an iBook. Of course, the TiBook was tempting, but for my needs it would be overkill that would have to come out of my own pocket. Hopefully the iBook will arrive soon, and from then on I'll keep you posted on the relationship between my Mac and my Pocket PCs. If there are tips Mac owners out there have for me, feel free to post them as I'm a total novice when it comes to the Mac. Heck, I might even sign up for that switch stuff if the <a href="http://www.apple.com/switch/ads/jentryposs.html">Mac works seamlessly</a> with all the gadgets <b>I</b> love. ;-)

[smittyofdhs]

ok, pocket mac syncs the PIM data on a mac, but what about if you wanted to add more applications to your PDA? Most software is written for install via Activesync on a PC platform, not Mac. If the individual .cab install files were not available for a particular PPC app, then would the Mac user be sh*t out luck? or is there a way for Pocket Mac to be able to do this for them?

I'm an IT director and have a couple of mac users that wanted to get a PPC but when I let them know that it would only be good for PIM they decided to go with Palms. Is there something I'm missing?

[Charles Pickrell]

Smitty,

Pocket Mac featues a program called .cab extractor. It sucks CAB files out of EXE intstallers so Mac users can install Pocket PC software. It is a pretty elegant solution.

For more info:
http://www.pocketmac.net/cabextractor.htm

[klinux]

Woo hoo, congrats. I too was a total novice when I started using a Mac. I switched for its ability to work with media files and also for its geeky Unix-y OS with journaling file system. I too ditched a Sony VAIO (SR series) to go to an iBook (700 mhz 12.1" combo drive).

My advice:

1) In exchange for the seamless integration between its components and the beautiful GUI, be ready to accept the speed hit (e.g. slower MP3 ripping, screen redraw etc, and forget about encoding video) compared to the 1.x -3.x ghz CPUs that we in the PC world are used too. Fine for office work, e-mail, and web but heavy duty stuff should be done on a PC or a G4 Mac.

2) Networking does not seem as intuitive if you are used to Windows networking but once set up you can easily FTP, HTTP, SMB, etc to a mixed network.

3) Max out the RAM. 384 is great; 640 is ideal. This is the most important upgrade you can make.

4) Get an external mouse. I can't believe Apple still has that one button mouse thing going. Any USB one would do but Kensington StudioMouse Kensington StudioMouse (http://www.kensington.com/html/1420.html/) seems to be a perfect match. Other Kensington accessories are available here (http://www.kensington.com/html/1421.html/). I use the FlyLight regularly.

I have Entourage and Office on my Mac but I still sync my PPCs to PC Outlook. Would like to hear your resuilts though.

[cgavula]

I run a network enginnering group in a mixed PC/Mac shop (about 50-50) and I am a Mac user with a PocketPC and with PocketMac Pro 2.0. I've got users on both Palm and PPC on both platforms so I have some experience with this.

You are correct in saying that installing apps (usually) requires ActiveSync running on a PC. It's hard to get around that. Because many mac users often have one specific app that ONLY runs on PC, they usually buy a copy of VirtualPC to run that app. I run VPC whenever I need to install a new app to my PocketPC. Other than that, PocketMac directly syncs my calendar with either iCal or Entourage and it syncs my address book with Address Book or Entourage. It works very well. You can also browse and move files back and forth to and from the PPC - no real problem. It even automatically detects my PPC and tells me what type it is. All of this is extremely impressive considering they had a lot of trouble getting the info they needed from Apple and Microsoft to make the application work. I think they must have reverse-engineered most of it.

Since installing apps isn't a daily occurance, I don't think occasionallly having to run VPC to install a PPC app is all that big a problem, but if you ARE installing apps frequently, then it might be an issue. Otherwise it works just fine. It may even work better at some things than Palm desktop 4 since PD4 appears tostill have a number of compatability problems, especially under Mac OS X.

I do want to mention one problem I've seen, though. Sometimes the PMPro application interferes with Ethernet use. Disconnecting the sync cradle/connection makes the problem go away. I've noticed this problem on my TiBook but not on a G4 desktop that I tried.

--Chris

[smittyofdhs]

Smitty,

Pocket Mac featues a program called .cab extractor. It sucks CAB files out of EXE intstallers so Mac users can install Pocket PC software. It is a pretty elegant solution.

For more info:
http://www.pocketmac.net/cabextractor.htm

Thanks for the solution. When we looked into Pocket Mac before it was still in beta and from what I found at the time, it would only do the PIM sync. This is great info in case we get more users that want a PPC over a Palm.

[seanturner]

I'm sorry I have to say this, but, you evil, evil man. Contributing to a cult with a "father knows best" attitude...

[smittyofdhs]

I run a network enginnering group in a mixed PC/Mac shop (about 50-50) and I am a Mac user with a PocketPC and with PocketMac Pro 2.0. I've got users on both Palm and PPC on both platforms so I have some experience with this.

You are correct in saying that installing apps (usually) requires ActiveSync running on a PC. It's hard to get around that. Because many mac users often have one specific app that ONLY runs on PC, they usually buy a copy of VirtualPC to run that app. I run VPC whenever I need to install a new app to my PocketPC. Other than that, PocketMac directly syncs my calendar with either iCal or Entourage and it syncs my address book with Address Book or Entourage. It works very well. You can also browse and move files back and forth to and from the PPC - no real problem. It even automatically detects my PPC and tells me what type it is. All of this is extremely impressive considering they had a lot of trouble getting the info they needed from Apple and Microsoft to make the application work. I think they must have reverse-engineered most of it.

Since installing apps isn't a daily occurance, I don't think occasionallly having to run VPC to install a PPC app is all that big a problem, but if you ARE installing apps frequently, then it might be an issue. Otherwise it works just fine. It may even work better at some things than Palm desktop 4 since PD4 appears tostill have a number of compatability problems, especially under Mac OS X.

I do want to mention one problem I've seen, though. Sometimes the PMPro application interferes with Ethernet use. Disconnecting the sync cradle/connection makes the problem go away. I've noticed this problem on my TiBook but not on a G4 desktop that I tried.

--Chris

Actually Charles Pickrell's solution sounds a lot easier. My end of the company is 100% PC based, my counterpart IT person in Chicago is the Mac person. So the the simplest solution is the best for me. Thanks for the info.

ps- I just saw WindowsXP running on one of those G4's with huge mac screen at one of the new Apple stores. I was very impressed with how it worked and without looking at the case, no one would have been able to tell it was Mac. Before that, my only experience with PC running on a Mac was the old PowerPC that had dual motherboards in them. God, were those things awful.

[Macguy59]

Welcome to the Mac world. I took delivery of an iBook 800 mhz w/640 RAM and a combo drive last Weds. I am very interested in how Pocket Mac works for you. Only the Pro version works with Entourage correct? I also think it's too expensive. As a temporary solution I have installed Virtual PC 5.x. This let's me run WinXP with full access to the USB ports on the iBook for Active Sync. Of course when I am home, I just sync up with my dekstop PC.

[XmanHP548]

YES! YES! YES!

Comeon over to the Mac side - I switched a year ago and haven't looked back. PocketMac 2.0 finally works ok with my Maestro (and my old HP 548) and life is looking good :lol:

I do have to say though that I use Windows 2000 at work and I like it well enough for a Windows-based system. It has been pretty stable all things considered.
On the home front though the Mac has revolutionized the way that I use a computer. Trust me, you spend FAR less time trying to figure out and troubleshoot the OS on a Mac than on an MS system. OS X is downright stunning!

To all Windows users - DON'T BE AFRAID. You can keep your PocketPC and make the leap to the world of Apple!

[Mr. Anonymous]

Congrats on the new iBook Marlof, you're gonna love it! I got an iBook 800 a month ago and returned to the Mac after an 8 year absence. OS X is really good, much more to my liking than Linux.

Here's hoping you enjoy your switch as much as I have!

[yada88]

I am doing much of the same thing. I sold my Dell laptop, and am buying an ibook (only when the next revision comes out). There isn't anything I can't do or fix in windows anymore. I have been in since the days of Dos, and then 3.1, and I'm not even 17! While I am not abandoning pcs (I am building a athlon 64 3+ ghz [the day it comes out], 512 mb ddr333 ram, 80 gig HD w/ 8mb buffer, descent video, hot case), I think it's cool to try something new, and learn how to use something new. Also, due to my age, proficiency in many OS's will most likely benefit in whatever career path I end up taking. I hope you love your ibook, and the day the next revision comes out, I will be ordering mine [I am not saying this revision is bad. It isn't, and the price right now is outstanding. But because I have a computer to use for the time being, I'd wrather wait for a faster chip, built in bluetooth, and a new sexy body.

Jeff

[Rashiki]

I almost bought an iBook a year ago and after using one extensively, I'm very glad I didn't. I have a dual G4 desktop at work, but one of the CPUs failed, and I had a deadline to meet so I got my hands on an iBook running OSX 10.1. The iBook seemed to run at about 25% of the speed of the G4., even with 640MB of RAM. The cheapo HP laptop with a 900 MHz Duron that I bought for $750 last year was a much better investment, IMO. The one thing I liked about the iBook was that it had decent battery life. I could easily get 3+ hours out of it.

[Foo Fighter]

Welcome to the club, Marlof! :D

As Klinux pointed out, you really should get as much RAM as possible. Right now my iMac G4 has just 128mb RAM, and it performs dismally slow. 512 is the minimum requirement, IMO.

I just ordered a copy of Jaguar from Amazon....$96. If anyone else hasn't upgraded, that's quite a deal.

[mclaughlinc]

As the Developer of EZ-Expense I'm curious to see how many Pocket PC users have and would like to sync with MAC's? Or should I say Apple products. Maybe this is a good time for a poll on the front page??? I'm sure other developers would also like to know how big this market is.

This may not be as big of an issue for other developer that do not have an ActiveSync module or Desktop app that works with thier program like ours does.

[Cybercop]

You should have stuck with the VAIO! I just bought the GRV-550 and it is so much better than a mac ibook. It has new software that is equal to iTunes, iPhoto, and all the other programs mac is famous for. You should hve checked into it. You will be so limited to Software and other things that you are used to on a PC.

Good Luck anyway. I LUV MY VAIO!!!

[jweitzman]

I'm a Mac user also (since 1984--3 Macs at home) and have been keeping an eye on PocketMac. I synch with my work computer, but would love to keep home computers in synch as well. Thinking about switching work computer to Mac, but we use Exchange. When Outlook goes OSX or Entourage lives with Exchange, switcheroo.

To the few people who couldn't resist trolling this into a Mac vs. PC debate above, get a life, or a get a *new* Mac with OS X, and then you can play (on another web site please). All the Mac users use Macs and PCs.

JW

[klinux]

To the few people who couldn't resist trolling this into a Mac vs. PC debate above, get a life, or a get a *new* Mac with OS X, and then you can play (on another web site please). All the Mac users use Macs and PCs.

JW

Ditto that. Two PCs at home in addition to the iBook. PC at work too (obviously). I enjoy playing around in Windows and PC hardware as much as anyone here and Mac is just the latest system/toy/challenge tht is actually a lot of fun to figure out.

[Sheynk]

Ok, this is a very interesting topic for me, but this statement will put everything in its place regarding flame wars:

I am a dedicated PC user. (and ppc) We have a triple T1 network @ my school with a # of iMacs and iBooks that would crash PPCT if I typed it out. All this time we have problems. They are never fast enough. Nothing every works. Always crashes. If a couple of days ago you read my post about macs, you would see a different side. While I was doing a video project, I got to go to the AV department @ my school and use a dual G4 for vid tinkering. I thought that I would start crying.
Lets face it, no matter how you twist it, Macs are A LOT better @ vid editing than PCs. And yes, I've used a 2.8 ghz.
We took a recent field trip to craft's headquarters (in chicago) and all those adds (like print and magazine) are done with photoshop on macs. yes macs. you heard me.





Ok the point is: I like games, I have a pc. If I did lots of video, i would have a mac.

Granted many other things, but after my dual G4 experience I still cant grasp the power.

So there you have it.

Plus, if it wasnt for Mac's, who would the Windows user's pick on? :lol:
Jusk kidding

[Macguy59]

So who is modding this thread and why was my second post deleted? Of course this about PocketPC, but it doesn't hurt to make sure Marlof knows the best configuration for his iBook. Explanation?

[Edit] After speaking to Jason I am convinced that my post was not deleted, but rather lost somewhere in the discussion board clutter. All is well again :D

[Charles Pickrell]

For those with Mac envy (don't you dare tell me that the cases and OSX are not absolutely beautiful) there are many ways to make your Windows machine look more like a Mac. Here are a few that I really like:


OSX-like Dock (waaay cool):
http://www.stardock.com/products/objectdock/

WindowBlinds (make your windows look mac-like:
http://www.windowblinds.net/

ObjectBar (get those top-of the screen menus):
http://www.stardock.com/products/objectbar/

Skins for these apps:

Dock stuff (I have some great Pocekt PC icons here)
http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=29

Windowblinds Mac skin (requires WindowBlinds):
http://www.wincustomize.com/download.asp?SkinID=2906&LibID=1

ObjectBar skin (requires ObjectBar):
http://www.wincustomize.com/download.asp?SkinID=196&LibID=4

[Janak Parekh]

So in stead of going my regular route of ordering yet another Sony Vaio, I opted for an iBook.
So Marlof, I'm almost in a similar boat as you. My trusty Sony SR17K is finally showing its age, and I'm debating either between a Tablet PC and a 1GHz TiBook to replace it. The tablet idea is so attractive, that's it's been the only thing holding me back from the TiBook. For me, the UNIX backend on an OS X is quite compelling, since I do a fair amount of work in Linux and Solaris environments.

--janak

[yada88]

So who is modding this thread and why was my second post deleted? Of course this about PocketPC, but it doesn't hurt to make sure Marlof knows the best configuration for his iBook. Explanation?

I am sorry, but to respond to this I do have to be synical: Look behind you stupid! just kidding. What happened was you posted on the thread. You got an email saying more had been posted. You clicked the link which sent you to the last page of the thread. You didn't see your post because it was on the first page of the thread. So in conclusion, look behind the car before you pull out of the driveway.

[Sheynk]

For those with Mac envy (don't you dare tell me that the cases and OSX are not absolutely beautiful) there are many ways to make your Windows machine look more like a Mac. Here are a few that I really like:


OSX-like Dock (waaay cool):
http://www.stardock.com/products/objectdock/

WindowBlinds (make your windows look mac-like:
http://www.windowblinds.net/

ObjectBar (get those top-of the screen menus):
http://www.stardock.com/products/objectbar/

Skins for these apps:

Dock stuff (I have some great Pocekt PC icons here)
http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=29

Windowblinds Mac skin (requires WindowBlinds):
http://www.wincustomize.com/download.asp?SkinID=2906&LibID=1

ObjectBar skin (requires ObjectBar):
http://www.wincustomize.com/download.asp?SkinID=196&LibID=4


What is this Mac envy you speak of?????????????? :lol:

[bmhome1]

I use OS10.2.2 with VPC5.0.4 running 98SE to ActiveSync and Outlook contacts sync with my iPaq 3955 (3835 previously) daily via USB without a single problem. The 3955 is brand new and I installed over 19 applications in less than an hour and half to it from .exe and .cab files downloaded from Mac Internet Explorer and accessed through "shared folders" within VPC. I drag and drop files to my FAT formatted PCMCIA hard drive and SD cards on the Mac desktop. It works so well, I see no need for PocketMac (although I appreciate their efforts to expose Mac users to the joys of PPC).

One thing to keep in mind about VPC is that XP with VPC has major problems consistently recognizing USB connections (not good for frequent syncing), often finding the USB driver missing after a restart or from a "saved state." Not sure about 2000 and USB, but I can highly recommend 98SE for PPC connections with your Mac.

Agree about RAM - get the maximum your iBook accepts - OSX loves RAM and nearly all complaints about speed are resolved having RAM available to eliminate page-ins and page-outs (UNIX for virtual memory writes to disk). Several superior Mac User websites:

xlr8yourmac.com
macosxhints.com
macfixit.com
macintouch.com

Much to learn and outstanding help from users, some experts; the best in the field. A visit to these sites display the community and sharing Mac users enjoy, very much like this site!

[Jonathan1]

I'm sorry I have to say this, but, you evil, evil man. Contributing to a cult with a "father knows best" attitude...

I thought that was Bill Gates? :wink:

Oops that's the "I don't care" attitude. :D :wink: :?

[Jonathan1]

Guys question on OS X. I got to play with a Jaguar based system about 3 weeks ago over the weekend. How can you guys stand the GUI? I keep wanting to go to my Start menu just to find that there isn’t one. The way the OS handles the file menu and title bar is bizarre. Why would you dock the title bar and file menu to the top of the screen rather then the actual window? I find myself tempted to go MAC but every time I play with the GUI I mentally cringe. :?
I supose it’s just a matter of getting use to the GUI but it just seems way inefficient. IMHO of course.

[marlof]

Thanks for all responses. I just knew that although this would be off topic, people would be interested in this. ;)

Just to clarify: I've ordered a iBook G3 800 MHz, combo DVD/CD-RW drive, 640 MB of RAM, 30 GB harddisk, Airport card. The G3 had me worried, and I would have liked a G4 in the unit much better. I could have waited for the next revision that many hope includes a G4 in the iBook too. But a Mac owner I know that is not only interested in specs, but in real life experiences, told me the G3 is fast enough for my mobile computing needs, and I did miss having a notebook around, so I jumped in now.

The more advanced stuff will be done on my P4 1.7 GB, 512 MB RAM, 80 GB harddisk. A Sony Vaio, of course. :) The ownership of the desktop PC made me less worried about installing programs etc. I will try to do it from the Mac too of course, but if I can't I can use my PC.

For those worried that I didn't look at other PC based notebook options: I did. I specifically did look at the entire Sony Vaio ( they rock! ) range, and the Tablet PCs. It's just that my hardware needs are limited right now, because I need the notebook less, and I really wanted to try out something new. That's the only way to learn exciting new stuff. Step off the known road, and go where you didn't go before.

[hulksmash]

Jonathan,

You are correct that it will just take some getting used to using the new Jaguar OS. In case you were unaware, the Windows "Start Menu" was Microsofts copy of the original Apple menu from 1984. And I am finding all this information more helpful than much of the news I have been reading lately on this site, I look forward to learning more about how a PocketPC is able to sync with a Mac. Thanks.

[marlof]

As the Developer of EZ-Expense I'm curious to see how many Pocket PC users have and would like to sync with MAC's? Or should I say Apple products. Maybe this is a good time for a poll on the front page??? I'm sure other developers would also like to know how big this market is.

Poll coming up later today.

[klinux]

Funny. My main desktop PC is also a Sony as well! (The other one is a Shuttle like Jason's.)

I would get more firewire devices since your Sony has a firewire port as well. I have a Lexar compactflash reader/writer that I use to upload photo (XP and Mac) and to to transfer MP3 and other media files to/from the PPC CF card.

One of my to-buy item is a firewire enclosure for HD. When you need to transfer, say, 10 gigs of files between PC and Mac, firewire is sooo much (3-4x) faster than ethernet (in theory 400 mbps vs 100 mbpps). This is good for backup as well since Mac can read FAT32 and NTFS formatted disks.

[Snail]

Ooooooohhh yeah! :multi:

This is one of the last reasons I have to use a Vaio at work... Can't wait till I need to upgrade it!

[Ekkie Tepsupornchai]

So who is modding this thread and why was my second post deleted??
You didn't see your post because it was on the first page of the thread.
Actually, byteme was specifically asking about his second post in the thread, not his first.

[Ekkie Tepsupornchai]

Marlof, after a few weeks or months of using your iBook, please post on your overall impressions and how difficult / easy it would be for a PPC user to switch.

This is a very interesting topic to myself as well. I've already been tempted on a couple of occasions to invest in a Mac to compliment my WinXP machine.

[Perry Reed]

To the few people who couldn't resist trolling this into a Mac vs. PC debate above, get a life, or a get a *new* Mac with OS X, and then you can play (on another web site please). All the Mac users use Macs and PCs.

Yes, indeed. At home are 5 PCs (between my wife and I) and one Mac G4, although I have plans to sell the G4 to raise some badly needed cash. As much as I HATE OS9, I like OS X. Pretty interface over a good Unix implmentation (although they've done some very odd things with directory structure for some of the Unix apps, like Apache).

[Macguy59]

So who is modding this thread and why was my second post deleted? Of course this about PocketPC, but it doesn't hurt to make sure Marlof knows the best configuration for his iBook. Explanation?

I am sorry, but to respond to this I do have to be synical: Look behind you stupid! just kidding. What happened was you posted on the thread. You got an email saying more had been posted. You clicked the link which sent you to the last page of the thread. You didn't see your post because it was on the first page of the thread. So in conclusion, look behind the car before you pull out of the driveway.

The issue has been resolved. (see page 2)

[marlof]

Marlof, after a few weeks or months of using your iBook, please post on your overall impressions and how difficult / easy it would be for a PPC user to switch.

That is my plan. I'll keep a journal of my experiences with the Mac platform (hits and misses) and will post those/, esp. where they concern the Pocket PC. As stated, this will be from the eyes of a Mac novice / an experienced Wintel consumer, and will show if I think switching is easy or advisable, coming from that perspective.

[Macguy59]

Marlof, after a few weeks or months of using your iBook, please post on your overall impressions and how difficult / easy it would be for a PPC user to switch.

That is my plan. I'll keep a journal of my experiences with the Mac platform (hits and misses) and will post those/, esp. where they concern the Pocket PC. As stated, this will be from the eyes of a Mac novice / an experienced Wintel consumer, and will show if I think switching is easy or advisable, coming from that perspective.

Sounds good. One quick piece of advice. . . holding down the 'ctrl' button and clicking the mousepad button will bring up right-clck context menu's :D

[jweitzman]

The right-click tip is a simple but important one for Windows users. If you go back and forth between Macs and PCs, I highly recommend getting a third-party mouse. I love the Logitech Optical Wireless mouse. The MS wireless optical one is nice too. Both have OSX Prefs panels for added features like programming buttons.

On the earlier comment about the menu bar: it's a matter of what you're used to. State vs. Stateless I guess. Both OS's have examples of each. For example, in OSX programs, dialog boxes are attached to the window to which they apply, e.g. a "Save" dialog box is attached to the document you are saving, which seems to make a lot more sense than having float in a modal dialog like in Windows or Mac OS9.

This indicates that Apple understands the utility of associating commands and actions with the window being acted upon. It would have been too radical a departure to remove the menu bar, however. Mac users would have freaked. I suspect you'll see a migration toward more functionality in the active window. Already the toolbar interface is a flexible, customizable way to perform common actions on the active window.

The Start Menu is an abomination, you're just used to it. Use the Columns view in OSX. Much more flexible and efficient.

JW

[Perry Reed]

Here's what I dislike most about OS X: the toolbar.

Granted, it's a far cry better than anything in OS 9, but here's where it fails, I think: It makes very little difference between program links (shortcuts) and programs that are already running. In fact, the only way to tell the difference is a tiny arrow underneath the icon for running programs.

Windows 3.x had this same problem where sometimes an icon represented a program or file link (Program Manager) and sometimes it represented a running program (desktop). They fixed that nicely with the taskbar in Win 95.

Apple should take note. Unfortunately, the Aqua interface has a lot of inconsistancies like that, caused I think, mostly from "legacy' behavior from previous OS's.

[jweitzman]

Actually, you're referring to the Dock; the toolbar is the bar at the top of windows (you can turn it on or off, too).

Dock was very controversial when Mac users first saw it. You can hide it and completely ignore it and run your computer without it if you wish. I find it convenient and cleaner than putting shortcuts (aliases in Mac speak) all over my desktop.

JW

[marlof]

[Edit] After speaking to Jason I am convinced that my post was not deleted, but rather lost somewhere in the discussion board clutter. All is well again :D

Good to hear! Now, what was your advice? The CTRL button? Thanks! I need every bit of help I can!

[fireflyrsmr]

never ever will buy a mac after they dropped "us" with the newton. :evil:

[Liquidrice]

Interesting that there are so many PPC users Using a mac. I have a Powerbook g4 800mhz 1gig ram (lots of graphics work). But because I have a ppc phone I have been using my pc to sync with my PPC Phone. I just downloaded Demo Pocketmac 2.0 and i'll see if it works.... anyone else tried this combo?