Random User Survey #4

[Jason Dunn]

Oh joy! It's another privacy-secured-because-we-don't-compile-the-results random user survey! This one should be pretty simple, but if you need to take a minute to check, that's ok too.

[Daniel]

Ok, I'm cunfused, is there a FAQ somewhere? What's this "Female" option mean? ;)

Pretty dismal really, at the moment it's waaaay lopsided. Is there a legal way we can attract more women to PPCT and PPCs in general?

Daniel

[Jimmy Dodd]

Three??? Threee???

Man, that's not much better than Augusta National!
:wink:

[Willa]

Woo hoo, I just made it five! A whopping 6%.

Edit - for the moment, anyway, it was at 6%...

[Brad Adrian]

This is really depressing! Apparently, our pocket protectors and horn-rim glasses aren't as attractive as we thought...

[toshtoshtosh]

Alright, now how many of those 5 are just guys who want to screw the numbers?

[bdegroodt]

Three??? Threee???

Man, that's not much better than Augusta National!
:wink:

Don't tell Martha Burk. She'll have us shut down and demanding MS to have more women in their advertisements! :twisted:

[icatar]

Holy sausage party, Batman!

[Ed Hansberry]

I am waiting for someone to say there aren't enough options in this poll.

Hmmmm...94% male, 5% female so far. What is that other 1%? :wink: :lol:

[bdegroodt]

I am waiting for someone to say there aren't enough options in this poll.

Hmmmm...94% male, 5% female so far. What is that other 1%? :wink: :lol:

Yeah...and what would the statiscal variance be on this one? +/- ?% ?

[Ekkie Tepsupornchai]

Holy sausage party, Batman!
ROFLMAO!!!

Hmmmm...94% male, 5% female so far. What is that other 1%? :wink: :lol:
UNISEX!!!

[moaske]

Could that be borg ? :robot: ... ie that missing 1%...

Seems like we're all into Boys-Toys ! 8)

[mscdex]

... but if you need to take a minute to check, that's ok too.

I seriously hope nobody here had to take a minute to check.... :?

[lspinellijr]

must be those damn women-repellent E-VESTS you people are wearing.

[Venturello]

Amazing... so sad. Imagine a world with only 3% of woman! :?

[Venturello]

Sure, no traffic accidents, but only woman would be boring and we men would end up killing each other (for that 3%).

[Janak Parekh]

we men would end up killing each other (for that 3%).
... which means that, by definition, we could never be 97%. We'd start eliminating each other. Unless a "megapolygamic" religion were to develop. 8O

--bdj

[jojaboi]

What the crap??!

Where's the third world south american, inbred, hermaphrodite option?JK :lol: SWM, wait, :roll: , yeah, SWM lookin' for a good time. Oh, guess this is the wrong place for that. So much for takin' my ipaq to foodlion and using it as a grocery list (listpro)/ chick magnet. And to think, all this time I thought it was my breath :lol:

[T-Will]

Where's NOW when we need them... :pukeface:

[Daniel]

Sure, no traffic accidents, but only woman would be boring and we men would end up killing each other (for that 3%).

You must be a real ladies man! ;)

Daniel

[yvilla]

I am in shock. I really cannot believe this. I knew I was in a minority here, but never dreamed it was this small of a minority.

I guess from now on I'll have to be more forgiving of you guys--often in the past I'd (privately and mentally) chide you all for the extemely "male" tone and tenor of the discussion. Once I actually even touched on that in a post. But I really can't blame you for that anymore!

But good grief--why are the numbers so skewed?

[Sunnyone]

At least I made it jump up to a whopping 16!

I thought there were more of us here....

Unless some of you guys are lying :razzing:

[jojaboi]

Ooooh,
A woman. stay back fellas. I saw 'er first :) . Just curious yvilla, what does ur name and avatar mean? I first noticed you a few weeks ago, I think and ur avatar caught my atention. Oh yeah, I was just kiddin bout the "SWM, wait, :roll: ..." thang. Actually I'm constantly reminded of my manliness :lol: .

JK, please don't take offense
How's that sayin' go? I'm young, dumb. and...

have a good one

Brandon

[Brad Adrian]

must be those damn women-repellent E-VESTS you people are wearing.
Don't be dissing my eVest, man! I'll have you know that I was repugnant to the opposite sex LONG before I started wearing the eVest!

[Brad Adrian]

But good grief--why are the numbers so skewed?
I think many women are simply intimidated by the overwhelming manliness of a guy with several PDAs and mobile phones strapped to his belt.

(That's my story, and I'm sticking to it...)

[leroymorrison]

wtf

[Sunnyone]

I think many women are simply intimidated by the overwhelming manliness of a guy with several PDAs and mobile phones strapped to his belt.


Yea, Brad, that's it! Love all those things hanging from the belt.... Would you rather carry them in a purse :lol: That'd be fun to see!

[Duncan]

The solution:

http://www.firstloox.org/mitac_pink.jpg :!: :wink:

[Daniel]

But good grief--why are the numbers so skewed?
I think many women are simply intimidated by the overwhelming manliness of a guy with several PDAs and mobile phones strapped to his belt.

(That's my story, and I'm sticking to it...)
Just keep saying that in your head Brad, you might even believe it one day! ;)

Daniel

[Paragon]

Personally I think it's the avatars the rest of you guys are using! You should start showing pictures of yourselves like I have. :D

Dave

[Daniel]

Personally I think it's the avatars the rest of you guys are using! You should start showing pictures if yourselves like I have. :D

Dave

pfffffttt ba ha ha ha ha :lol:

What makes you think I didn't? ;)

Daniel

[Wiggin]

ROFLMUMAO!!!!! :lol: How pathetic.. I had NO IDEA there were so many women in this mens club!!!

(for the 18 women who might see this...that's "rolling on the floor laughing my ugly MALE ass off!")

[Paul P]

The 'male' option precedes the 'female' option in the survey. No wonder for the disparity. :wink:

[Janak Parekh]

I thought there were more of us here....

Unless some of you guys are lying :razzing:
The real question is, how many women are voting as men?

For all we know Paragon might be that slim female, but is putting up buff avatars to keep his (err, her) actual identity secret. :lol:

--bdj

[Jason Dunn]

I am in shock. I really cannot believe this. I knew I was in a minority here, but never dreamed it was this small of a minority.

Unfortunately, the results aren't that surprising - but the good news is that I've seen the number of female forum posters increase by about 500% in the past month. I think there are three of you by now.

But good grief--why are the numbers so skewed?

I can't figure it out myself - after all, I'm a natural chick magnet, so why aren't there more women? :lol:

Really though, Pocket PCs are a largely male-dominated industry, so the fact that most of my readers are male geeks isn't a shock. ;-) I'd love to have more female perspective here though! Maybe I should post in my wife's nylons... :rainbowafro:

[Kathy_Harris]

Maybe more than 3% actually use PDAs (or maybe they use Palms :twisted: ) but only 3% would be willing to subject themselves to this board?

-I'm really just kidding :)

[JonnoB]

I can't figure it out myself - after all, I'm a natural chick magnet, so why aren't there more women? :lol:


Is that how you met your site content editor? :roll:

[Jonathan1]

What no "other" option? :)

[Don Tolson]

As Jason said, the results are that surprising. I still get the roll of the eyes :roll: and the 'boys and their toys' whenever I bring out the J568 with the Pocket Radio going.

HOWEVER, it looks like I'm going to get my revenge. The other women execs at my wife's work all use IPAQs and she is now saying she has to get SOMETHING to get herself organized!!!! :lol:

[welmoed]

Wow, this was surprising. I figured there would be more guys, but thirty to one?!? 8O Makes me wish I was single again; so many geeks to choose from!!

--Welmoed

who is getting an e-vest for Christmas from her husband so I guess that will make me appropriately geeky for this crowd

[sweetpete]

Jason,

You got to get more femaile oriented banner ads! It would help if one of the admins was of the femail variety :lol:

Then again, I'd be worred for her safety with so many guys

[Jonathon Watkins]

Maybe I should post in my wife's nylons... :rainbowafro:

8O :crazyeyes: 8O :crazyeyes: 8O :crazyeyes: 8O Ahhhgggg. Please don't! Now I have to get rid of this terrible image in my mind! :wink:

[ThomasC22]

The solution:

http://www.firstloox.org/mitac_pink.jpg :!: :wink:

If you think "a really cool PDA" is the solution to our woman deficiency then...well, lets just say I think you discovered the problem I just don't think it's what you think it is (not that Brian with his horn rimmed glasses, pocket protector and eVest are helping)... :D

[ThomasC22]

8O :crazyeyes: 8O :crazyeyes: 8O :crazyeyes: 8O Ahhhgggg. Please don't! Now I have to get rid of this terrible image in my mind! :wink:

Aw, Come on Gerbil, it's so edgy. We could be on HBO now :wink:

[Brad Adrian]

...Maybe I should post in my wife's nylons...
I thought you already did!

[entropy1980]

Personally I think it's the avatars the rest of you guys are using! You should start showing pictures of yourselves like I have. :D

Dave
Dave you look just as I remember from PPC Summit! :lol:

[Paragon]

Ha!

You must have drank more beer than I thought. :)

Dave

[mgd]

I can't figure it out myself - after all, I'm a natural chick magnet, so why aren't there more women? :lol:

Probably repulsed by all of those baby chickens hangin around you. :)

[Duncan]

If you think "a really cool PDA" is the solution to our woman deficiency then...well, lets just say I think you discovered the problem

Actually I was thinking of the fact that this is the first ever pink Pocket PC... :D

[yvilla]

I hate pink :!:

[Sunnyone]

yvilla said:

I hate pink


Me, too! Must be a girl geek thing. I'll stick with my non-pink Axim :wink:

[disconnected]

I'm not too fond of pink either, but I do find the Viewsonic birds quite attractive. Since I already have an iPAQ, I'm getting my husband the Viewsonic for Christmas. :D

I enjoy this site a lot (for news, gossip, and entertainment as well as for help), but if I didn't have a Pocket PC I would never have discovered either this or any other PPC site. I know, that's pretty obvious, but really it all has to start with PPC advertising -- if more women had PPCs, then more of them would find their way here.

I've posted this before, but I'm not averse to repeating myself. If you remove the "techy-toy" factor, women should be a perfect target audience for PPCs. To start with, most of the women I know carry around pretty extensive calendars and address books of one kind or another, and usually at least one paperback book. They could certainly benefit from some kind of PDA. If they've thought of a PDA at all, they're mostly aware of Palms; it's not so much that they believe that Palms are simpler as it is that they've not even heard of Pocket PCs. All my women friends spend time on the internet, mostly from Windows desktops, and might actually find PPC more familiar-feeling than Palm. Most of them carry pretty roomy purses, so finding room for any reasonably sized Pocket PC wouldn't be a problem. If there were TV or magazine ads (or product-placements in TV shows) showing real-life use of PPCs by women, they'd work their way into the female consciousness. I don't watch too much TV, other than sports, but maybe a sit-com mother could quiet a noisy child in a restaurant by whipping out a PPC with a children's ebook on it, and if Rachel on "Friends" had one, sales might increase to both sexes.

It seems that Microsoft is mostly focusing on the business user; even though PPCs are packaged with media player and a few games, they only seem to be advertised in the business section of the newspaper. Maybe this will change now that PPCs aren't much more expensive other portable electronic devices like portable CD players. They could also do things like including coupons from music-download services or ebook publishers.

[jeffmd]

what?? how come no ones linked these yet!

http://www.messs.com/news/200109/hello_kitty_pda/hellokitty3.jpg

and for the first timers our there...
http://www.weatherconnection.com/images/18053P.gif

[kellys26]

I started hearing about PDA's over at the Organized Home message board (yes, I'm female, and was very interested in finding a better way to organize my schedule).
The Palm is the only unit that is really discussed there. I wanted to buy a Palm, until I shopped for one, and stopped to look at an Ipaq. That's when I decided to get a PPC, and, I just got my Dell last night. I even called in sick today (my daughter was really sick, well, she has a runny nose!) and downloaded an amazing amount of programs and games.
I was just telling my husband tonight about how male dominated the PPC is. I was looking for themes at one of the theme sites, and OMG!! Let's just say they weren't quite what I was looking for. Also, I was looking for games, and I was pretty suprised at how many strip poker games I had to wade through to find something I might want.
I hope with the lower prices, the PPC might become a little more popular. But, I don't think it's there yet.
KellyS

[Janak Parekh]

I hope with the lower prices, the PPC might become a little more popular. But, I don't think it's there yet.
Well, you bought one, the more we get the better :D

There is a lot of software out there that's not strip poker-ish. In fact, I only saw strip poker for PPC on the web for the first time last weekend, and I've not had the slightest desire to install it anyway. Keep watching this site, you'll get lots of cool ideas. ;)

--bdj

[Kati Compton]

Unfortunately, the results aren't that surprising - but the good news is that I've seen the number of female forum posters increase by about 500% in the past month. I think there are three of you by now.


Nah - as per another thread, it's the POSTS from female forum members that have been increasing so much, not the # of females that are members. ;) ;) ;)

[Kati Compton]

Me, too! Must be a girl geek thing. I'll stick with my non-pink Axim :wink:


I don't like pink much. But I do like Magenta. I'm girly enough to make the distinction. ;)

[Fugates]

BigDaddyJ wrote

There is a lot of software out there that's not strip poker-ish.

I completely agree. You have everything from Bubblets :D to Engineering Utility Tools for the PPC. ... I enjoy both of those programs.

Oh, and my two cents (from the female perspective)... I am not a huge fan of the color pink also. I prefer various hues of blue. :wink:


MM :D :D :D

[mmc]

I am waiting for someone to say there aren't enough options in this poll.

Hmmmm...94% male, 5% female so far. What is that other 1%? :wink: :lol:

Yeah...and what would the statiscal variance be on this one? +/- ?% ?

:lol: should use your Pocketpc to calculate this. j/k who create the poll jason

[sundown]

This is really depressing! Apparently, our pocket protectors and horn-rim glasses aren't as attractive as we thought...


Hahaha, this is hilarious. So I guess we geeks are still mostly (heck almost all) men. Guess I should feel very lucky I was able to suspend my geekiness long enough to sucker some woman into marrying me.

[Kati Compton]

I was looking for themes at one of the theme sites, and OMG!! Let's just say they weren't quite what I was looking for.

At one of the sites a woman started uploading themes that featured male models. Apparently she was sent threatening private messages and publicly chastised and harrassed (not by the site admins, btw) to stop "ruining" the board for "all the straight people". I think some of the people on the board felt it was much more likely that she was a homosexual man than a heterosexual woman.

I had to laugh about just how offended some of those guys were at the male model themes. They were standard shirtless-man type photos, not *nearly* as explicit as just about anything in the "lingerie" section on the same board. Those guys should try "avoiding" images of sexy women for a week and see how (im)possible it is. ;)

I say if you think it's okay for there to be so many images of half-naked (or fully naked) women about, then you have to be willing to cope with images of shirtless men without complaint. Only fair.

[paqman_lover]

i was figureing 70/30 male to female myself so i was surprised as well.

i think this is showing a failure in advertiseing as well as what's available for the pocket pc. For example, I think women read more books then men or at least are willing to carry a book around outside of the home to read when they're bored. If e-books had a responable price structure with good availability of titles and ease of use, you could sell the fact that for less then the space of a book you could carry around all your favorite books and the books would never fall apart.

Also as a side note, my sister who is a tech geek and gamer really really hates pink. makeing something pink does not instantly make it female friendly.

[Sslixtis]

kellys26 wrote:
I was looking for themes at one of the theme sites, and OMG!! Let's just say they weren't quite what I was looking for.

I know the site quite well, I have some themes there, mostly animated. All I can really say is thank God for the filters that you can set. While I appreciate the female form, having to sift through 100 of the same type themes evey day to see the new posts was getting tiring!

Out of the 92 new themes today only 28 are not women :lol: Takes me much less time to browse them with the filters on :wink:

Cheers!

[kellys26]

I guess I didn't know about the filters over there, I just clicked on Newest to see the latest themes, LOL.
I did find what I was looking for, my Worf theme, so I was happy. :P
I just love this PPC. I took it to work today and I think I must have sold at least 5 of them for Dell. My boss uses a Palm, and couldn't believe the transcriber writing thing.
My husband even wants one. He asked if I would get him a cheap Palm, until I told him about the Grafitti thing, and, now that he's seen the PPC handwriting, I don't think I'll be able to sell him on a Palm. (He just wants the calendar stuff). I'm not sure what we'll do.
KellyS

[Janak Parekh]

Oh, and my two cents (from the female perspective)... I am not a huge fan of the color pink also. I prefer various hues of blue. :wink:
Hmm, is there any female geek or power-user that likes "pink"? We might just have a correlation here... ;)

At one of the sites a woman started uploading themes that featured male models. Apparently she was sent threatening private messages and publicly chastised and harrassed (not by the site admins, btw) to stop "ruining" the board for "all the straight people". I think some of the people on the board felt it was much more likely that she was a homosexual man than a heterosexual woman.
That's pretty horrible, and I don't think it's really appropriate behavior. But do realize that in many (most?) cases in the past men have done precisely that. I'm glad to see that those stereotypes are finally flattening out, though.

--bdj

[Kati Compton]

At one of the sites a woman started uploading themes that featured male models. Apparently she was sent threatening private messages and publicly chastised and harrassed (not by the site admins, btw) to stop "ruining" the board for "all the straight people". I think some of the people on the board felt it was much more likely that she was a homosexual man than a heterosexual woman.
That's pretty horrible, and I don't think it's really appropriate behavior. But do realize that in many (most?) cases in the past men have done precisely that. I'm glad to see that those stereotypes are finally flattening out, though.

Sad part (or maybe that's not the saddest part) is that the attitude didn't change after these people found out she was female. It was still too threatening to their "maleness" to be tolerated.

[Jimmy Dodd]

At one of the sites a woman started uploading themes that featured male models. Apparently she was sent threatening private messages and publicly chastised and harrassed (not by the site admins, btw) to stop "ruining" the board for "all the straight people". I think some of the people on the board felt it was much more likely that she was a homosexual man than a heterosexual woman.
That's pretty horrible, and I don't think it's really appropriate behavior. But do realize that in many (most?) cases in the past men have done precisely that. I'm glad to see that those stereotypes are finally flattening out, though.

Sad part (or maybe that's not the saddest part) is that the attitude didn't change after these people found out she was female. It was still too threatening to their "maleness" to be tolerated.

"Me thinkest they dost protest too much." :D