PocketQuick For Pocket PC Lets You Sync Quicken [Archive]

Ed Hansberry

11-11-2002, 11:00 PM

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.softspb.com/products/pocketquick/index.html' target='_blank'>http://www.softspb.com/products/poc...uick/index.html</a><br /><br /></div>Spb Software House has been busy with another great app for the Pocket PC. PocketQuick is a Pocket PC companion for Quicken users. "Spb PocketQuick synchronizes with desktop Quicken, downloading all its data into Pocket PC memory. Once synchronized, you can inspect all your accounts and transactions, see account balance, income and expense charts and, what is most important, create new transactions while on the move. All the transactions entered with Pocket PC then get to Quicken on the desktop on the next synchronization."<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/2002/20021111-pocketquick.gif" /><br /><br />It runs on any Pocket PC or Pocket PC 2002 device. Quicken 2001 or higher is required on the desktop. You can buy it for $29.99 and there is a trial version.

PPCRules

11-11-2002, 11:08 PM

ThomasC22

11-11-2002, 11:30 PM

Not to diminish the usefulness and significance of this (I'd love to have this functionality), but it is too bad something like this has to cost $30, when I get a new version of desktop Quicken (Basic) each year for free (after rebate). I'd like to see Intuit buy this from them and package it with Quicken (Deluxe, I suppose) like Microsoft does with PocketStreets.

I was going to say the same thing...sadly, handheld applications have a lower perceived value than Desktop applications (although they very well may be harder to develop sadly enough) and part of the problem with alot of the legitimate software companies making PPC software is they don't realize that.

I mean, Turjah was a great game but it costs as much as a Desktop PC game and that just doesn't seem right.

BugDude10

11-11-2002, 11:38 PM

Oh, sure, NOW there's a program that syncs with Quicken! When I got my E-125 in 10/2000, I switched to MS Money solely because it could sync with my PPC; before that, I had been a dedicated Quicken user for eight years. I'd love to have the extended functionality of graphs, reports, etc. in my PPC; when I'm waiting for an appointment, I could review my financial situation to see how much I've spent on tech toys!

I agree with the earlier posts about the price; $30 is a bit steep for this program. HOWEVER, I can more easily see spending $30 for an actual productivity app than for a game (e.g. Monopoly). The PPC version shouldn't cost as much as the PC version, if for no other reason than it can't have the same functionality -- it can't print checks.

My $0.02.

perfyct

11-11-2002, 11:56 PM

Anyone else able to download the trial version? The link keeps trying to download arkaball...

Ed Hansberry

11-12-2002, 12:06 AM

Whoops - won't be available until Tuesday. :oops: Try downloading then.

11-12-2002, 12:26 AM

Not to diminish the usefulness and significance of this (I'd love to have this functionality), but it is too bad something like this has to cost $30.

$30 is a fair price for this application (my opinion). add to that spb has the best support and service of pretty much any pocket pc software shop i know of, again my opinion :-]

also--the palm version from landware is $40+:
http://www.landware.com/pocketquicken/

cheers,
pt

Jason Dunn

11-12-2002, 12:35 AM

Busdriver

11-12-2002, 12:40 AM

I don't believe this is true Quicken synchronization. I think all they have done is automate QIF import/export. (And very cleverly, I might add)

I'm not trying to denigrate the program in any way, and in fact I'm looking forward to trying it myself. Just an observation.

ThomasC22

11-12-2002, 12:41 AM

When you consider that the Pocket PC world has been waiting 2+ years for a true Quicken-compatible tool to come onto the market, $30 isn't so unreasonable. It's unfair to compare it to the desktop market - totally different dynamics.

I suppose...and if you're really, REALLY fond of quicken then I guess this is great for you. But when you look at the fact that you can get MS Money basically for free at this point, with PocketMoney included (again for free) and that MS Money can convert your quicken data...well, it doesn't bode well for this app.

perfyct

11-12-2002, 01:39 AM

Unfortunately, Money isn't very good at converting quicken data. I've been using Quicken for 4 years now and I was going to switch to Money just to be able to use the Pocket Money version. In the conversion process, it simply said, "Unable to convert Quicken data" or something like that. No reasons why it failed or what I could do to try and fix it... just failed. Not wanting to scrap all my financial data for the past 4 years, I'm sticking with Quicken.

Rob Alexander

11-12-2002, 02:24 AM

I've used Quicken for about 10 years now and there is no way I'll change to Money even for a free PPC version. I did try that a few years back when the first Pocket Money came out, but I just couldn't tolerate the desktop Money program. Perhaps I'm just too used to Quicken.

Anyway, I'm very pleased to see something like this come along. I've been waiting for the mythical product from Landware since last century and I'd about given up any hope of ever getting a program to do this. I'll happily pay the $30.

The only thing that concerns me is, in the screen shots (http://www.softspb.com/products/pocketquick/screenshots.html), the bottom entries have the following caption:

"In the game menu you can start new game, continue current game, change settings, see highscores or exit the program."

Hmmm... sometimes I'd like to start a 'new game' financially, but I'm not sure that's a very realistic option for this software. Also, I'm sure I'd just be depressed to see my 'high score'! :lol:

Wiggin

11-12-2002, 02:59 AM

...well, it doesn't bode well for this app.
Thomas, you need only look at the number of Quicken users and see that there is a VERY large market for quality PPC sw that synchs with Quicken.
The fact that MS Money is practically free is interesting, but a mute point. :sleeping:
The world has weighed the two products, has measured the two products, and has found one product wanting... an app that can keep Quicken data on a PC/Laptop in synch with a handheld will be very successful (assuming that it works as advertised! :wink: )

ThomasC22

11-12-2002, 04:32 AM

The fact that MS Money is practically free is interesting, but a mute point. :sleeping:

I think you mean a moot point ( http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame31.html)

The world has weighed the two products, has measured the two products, and has found one product wanting... an app that can keep Quicken data on a PC/Laptop in synch with a handheld will be very successful (assuming that it works as advertised! :wink: )

Actually, most if not all the reviews I've seen have listed MS Money as the superior product ( http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame21.html):

Cnet: http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227903-8-6954890-1.html

PCWorld: http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,104318,00.asp

Not to mention,

Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000069IFB/qid=1037072157/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/002-7365350-4811255?v=glance&s=software VS http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000069IL2/qid=1037072173/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1_etk-software/002-7365350-4811255

uclabruin

11-12-2002, 04:55 AM

I too have been waiting anxiously for landware to get its act together. I have been in e-mail contact with them for over six months now, and their response is vague at best. I actually doubt they are really working on pocket quicken for pocket pc's. Anyways, I sent Josh at Lanware a link to the pocket quick web site. They are seriously missing the boat. I too tried to switch to Microsoft money for the pocket pc functionality, but I was sickened by the difficulty to tranfer my data, the cluttered interface and the huge amount ads/adware. Quicken is really much better. I'm glad products such as this are coming out. :grab:

psyfactor

11-12-2002, 05:02 AM

"In the game menu you can start new game, continue current game, change settings, see highscores or exit the program."

Hmmm... sometimes I'd like to start a 'new game' financially, but I'm not sure that's a very realistic option for this software. Also, I'm sure I'd just be depressed to see my 'high score'! :lol:

Lol indeed, I noticed that too. Look like they mess up the page by overusing copy & paste :lol:

Hugh Nano

11-12-2002, 05:17 AM

Ever since I first bought my Pocket PC, I've been waiting for this! If this works as advertised, I will be one of the first to buy it. I didn't mind MS Money personally, but I was frustrated by its unreliable syncing. And my wife refuses to switch to MS Money. So my Pocket PC has been pretty much useless for one of the main things I bought it for--keeping track of finances. (It's been great, however, for the other main thing: word-processing! And even better now that SoftMaker's full-fledged word-processing program, TextMaker, is almost out of beta!)

$30 is expensive, but, to me, worth it. Now if only they'd come up with something like this sooner... I hope it works!

Hugh Nano

11-12-2002, 05:24 AM

This is very sad... :( Look. From the PocketQuick FAQs:

4. How can I add new account/category/class?
PocketQuick won't let you create new accounts/categories/classes. You have to use desktop Quicken application to create and edit accounts, categories and classes. With PocketQuicken you can add and edit new transactions for existing accounts.

For $30, I expect at least as much functionality from this as one would get from something like MS Money! Perhaps I'll just have to keep waiting...

R Snidjik

11-12-2002, 08:10 AM

<< when you look at the fact that you can get MS Money basically for free at this point, with PocketMoney included (again for free) >>

How can I get MS Money for free, with PocketMoney included? Thanks.

vassiliphilippov

11-12-2002, 09:19 AM

Spb PocketQuick is not published yet (when I write this message). It will be published in 10 hours. We did not expect Pocket PC Thoughts would publish this information before release. So the webpage is not final and it is not available yet for downloading/purchasing.

Please wait until it will be released.
We will be glad to answer all questions in the Pocket PC Thoughts web forum as well as through our customer support email [email protected].

Vassili Philippov
MS-MVP Mobile Devices
Spb Software House

R Snidjik

11-12-2002, 09:45 AM

Thanks for the clarification, Vassili. I'm looking forward to the release, as the app looks pretty good (especially after you've added the ability to edit categories!).

Rob Alexander

11-12-2002, 10:44 AM

Spb PocketQuick is not published yet (when I write this message). It will be published in 10 hours. We did not expect Pocket PC Thoughts would publish this information before release. So the webpage is not final and it is not available yet for downloading/purchasing.

I rather thought we'd jumped the gun when I saw the game instructions on the web page. :wink: Never underestimate the power of enthusiasts to find an unfinished web page on an intersting product before you want it to be public! The amazing thing is that you guys managed to keep this program secret until 10 hours before releasing it. Good luck with it; it's about time someone did this!

Pony99CA

11-12-2002, 02:06 PM

When you consider that the Pocket PC world has been waiting 2+ years for a true Quicken-compatible tool to come onto the market, $30 isn't so unreasonable. It's unfair to compare it to the desktop market - totally different dynamics.
I have to disagree on two points, and agree on one. :-)

First, just because something has been long-awaited does not mean it should be priced higher. People waited a long time for "Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace", but what would you think if they charged $15 for a ticket?

Second, it's not unfair to compare it with desktop software especially is this case. This is software that's meant to support and enhance a desktop program. I don't think it's meant to replace desktop Quicken (like some other financial programs for the Pocket PC), and pricing it at or above the cost of the desktop version will be a problem.

Look at it another way -- if you saw a GameBoy Advanced program priced the same as its PlayStation 2 version, wouldn't you think it was overpriced?

We do sort of agree that $30.00 may not be overpriced, though. It all depends on how much it cost to develop. The company has to price their software to recoup the development costs plus a resasonable profit (they need to eat :-)) based on their projected sales. Because this almost requires a separately purchased piece of desktop software, that automatically narrows the potential market for this software.

I agree with the one person who said Spb should sell this to Intuit for inclusion with the regular Quicken. It looks like a great program, better than Microsoft Money's Pocket PC client, but I won't pay $30 for it.

Why won't I pay $30? Well, I probably would have, but last year I switched to Money from Quicken for two reasons -- Microsoft Money and TaxCut were cheaper than Quicken and TurboTax, and Money had a Pocket PC version. (Technically, I haven't switched -- I'm still using both, but Money is now my primary financial software.)

Another reason that I won't pay is because it sounds like PocketQuick only works with Quicken 2001, and I'm using Quicken 2000. :-) I only update financial software every two or three years, and I just "upgraded" to Money 2002 in April.

There is plenty that I don't like about Money, but there are also features that I like better than Quicken. If PocketQuick were priced at $14.95 or even $19.95, though, I might consider switching back.

Steve

Pony99CA

11-12-2002, 02:11 PM

When you consider that the Pocket PC world has been waiting 2+ years for a true Quicken-compatible tool to come onto the market, $30 isn't so unreasonable. It's unfair to compare it to the desktop market - totally different dynamics.

I suppose...and if you're really, REALLY fond of quicken then I guess this is great for you. But when you look at the fact that you can get MS Money basically for free at this point, with PocketMoney included (again for free) and that MS Money can convert your quicken data...well, it doesn't bode well for this app.
And that pricing is exactly how Microsoft tries to monopolize yet another market. :-(

As much as it pained me to buy another Microsoft product, I switched from Money to Quicken because of lower prices and a Pocket PC version. Too bad Microsoft is getting off so easily for their monopolistic business practices.... (But I do love their Pocket PC stuff. :-))

Steve

ThomasC22

11-12-2002, 04:48 PM

And that pricing is exactly how Microsoft tries to monopolize yet another market. :-(

As much as it pained me to buy another Microsoft product, I switched from Money to Quicken because of lower prices and a Pocket PC version. Too bad Microsoft is getting off so easily for their monopolistic business practices.... (But I do love their Pocket PC stuff. :-))

Truth be told, I don't know what to say in this regard anymore. On one hand, there's the fact that Microsoft does make things better for the consumer by driving prices down and (regardless of what some might tell you) quality up. For example, during the IE fiasco, I was very much on the side of Microsoft (I've never felt bundling IE with Windows was necessary though, I believe IE would have won on it's own).

But now I look at IE and feel like Microsoft has pulled a fast one. I mean, how long did it take for them to go from version 5 to version 6?

So, with that in mind, I look at other markets and worry. But, like I posted before, you can't deny that Microsoft has the better product. So, the question is, are you willing to use an inferior product simply to thwart Microsoft's power hungry nature and if so, are you still willing to realizing most other people won't and they'll probably still win in the end?

uclabruin

11-12-2002, 05:02 PM

Hey guys,
Thought you might want to read this. This is a response to my e-mail from Josh at Landware.

"No, LandWare is still committed to providing Pocket Quicken for the
Pocket PC. Our current status can be found at
http://www.landware.com/pocketquicken/ppc/.

Please note that Pocket Quicken by LandWare will be the only
'blessed' product and will actually have true connectivity with your
Quicken data file. PocketQuick by SPB utilizes QIF import.

Regards,
Josh

>Are you guys coming out with a sync program for quicken or did you
>concede to spb soft?
>
>Thanks,
>Rafael "

-Rafael

golfingtigger

11-12-2002, 05:13 PM

...also--the palm version from landware is $40+:
http://www.landware.com/pocketquicken/

cheers,
pt

When I "lost" my Visor Prism to a thief, I had to give up my $40 PocketQuicken and I was sad ever since. No such animal existed on the Pocket PC/WinCE platform. I have waited 3 years for this and I'm excited to see its functionality.

But do note that I'm livid because LandWare has never followed through on their promise to port PocketQuicken over to the PocketPC.

rtrueman

11-12-2002, 07:03 PM

Looks like the folks over at SPB are having some last minute issues. When I first checked out the site it said Spb Quick would be released in three hours. Then it was 9 hours. Now it says soon. :D I'm a software developer myself and know how release days get!

Best of luck with the release! I'll be checking out the demo soon after.

Rob

jondav10036

11-12-2002, 10:51 PM

Actually I have been waiting for Landware to port the Palm edition of PockeQuicken over to PPC. They have been promising this app for over a year now. Hopefully the release of this spb app will light a fire under Landware to finish up Pocket Quicken. Today Landware finally changed their website, after a year, to provide this update:

Thank you for your interest in Pocket Quicken for Pocket PC

We are making significant headway in our efforts to bring Pocket Quicken to the Pocket PC platform.

At the beginning of this year, we ported our Pocket Quicken for Palm OS conduit (the data transfer code) to the Pocket PC platform and subsequently scrapped it. Basically we were unhappy with its performance. Our experience with our Palm OS customers have shown that it is not unusual to carry several thousand transactions around on the handheld, with some customers carrying 10,000 or more.

The good news is that we now have synchronization working and Pocket Quicken for Pocket PC remains a top priority project at LandWare. However we still have quite a bit of work to do. Contrary to what some have suggested as being a simple port, this project is a complete ground up rewrite and it will be released as soon as we are 110% happy with its robustness, quality and performance.

Our Palm product has gained a reputation for its performance, rock solid dependability and unparalleled seamlessness to Quicken on the desktop. Pocket PC owners have every right to expect that same level of quality.

We thank you for your patience and we will provide more regular updates to this page to keep you informed of our progress.

If the reviews are postive on the spb app I am going to say to H** with Landware and use the spb product.

roberto_torres

11-12-2002, 11:54 PM

Not to diminish the usefulness and significance of this (I'd love to have this functionality), but it is too bad something like this has to cost $30, when I get a new version of desktop Quicken (Basic) each year for free (after rebate). I'd like to see Intuit buy this from them and package it with Quicken (Deluxe, I suppose) like Microsoft does with PocketStreets.

Same with QuickVerse: you should get a PocketPC version with the desktop Windows version, and notes and such would sync back and forth.

Landware wich has the oficial Quicken license from intuit is working on a port of their official Pocket Quicken (a palm os program) for the PPC.

Wiggin

11-12-2002, 11:55 PM

Truth be told, I don't know what to say in this regard anymore.
Looks like that fact isn't going to stop you from continuing to talk :lol:

But, like I posted before, you can't deny that Microsoft has the better product
Not sure who you're getting your input from, but I don't believe anyone has awarded the victory to MS in the personal finance app nitch! It also strikes me as obvious that you do not acutally use either product based upon a lack of any credible input that is based upon experience with them. So, until you have something to offer the reader about the strengths of Quicken versus MS Money, perhaps a milder tone would be in order?? :way to go:

...and thx for the help on moot vs mute. THAT was value added! :beer:

Jason Dunn

11-13-2002, 12:10 AM

Landware wich has the oficial Quicken license from intuit is working on a port of their official Pocket Quicken (a palm os program) for the PPC.

And the Pocket PC world has been waiting for over two years - still nothing.

That speaks volumes IMO.

thenikjones

11-13-2002, 12:41 AM

I have PocketPC2002 and Money 2001 on my desktop (the Standard edition, UK version). Is it possible to synch the two?

I have tried in the past and told by the softweare that only US versions were supported. As I bought Money SOLELY to synch to my old HP545, this annoyed me somewhat. Have any Brits managed to synch these versions? Would I need to upgrade to Money 2002?

Grateful for any advice,

Nik

Pony99CA

11-13-2002, 12:54 AM

So, with that in mind, I look at other markets and worry. But, like I posted before, you can't deny that Microsoft has the better product. So, the question is, are you willing to use an inferior product simply to thwart Microsoft's power hungry nature and if so, are you still willing to realizing most other people won't and they'll probably still win in the end?
The problem is, I do deny that Microsoft has the better product in the personal finance space. As I mentioned, I use both Quicken (and 2000, at that) and Money 2002, and I prefer to use Quicken. Why? Because I like the Quicken user interface better. They both have advantages, though, which I'll list. Of course, these are my opinions, but I do design user interfaces for a living.

MONEY ADVANTAGES
1. Pocket PC synchronization (of course)
2. Pricing (but that could be another monopolistic trend)
3. Longer memo fields (Quicken's are way too short)
4. Better classification support (a separate field with a drop-down list)
5. Better scheduled payment support
6. Better method of handling transfers (a separate tab and memos are always kept the same)

QUICKEN ADVANTAGES
1. Tabbed interface for switching between registers
2. Better split window (Money's is too small and not resizable)
3. Multi-level categorization (Money only supports two levels)
4. Longer payee names (Money truncated at least one of mine)
5. Better sorting options (I sort by date, then order entered, which Money doesn't support).
6. No Passport requirement (I don't think I can turn that off)
7. Better performance (Money often seems to hang when I'm trying to create a new transaction and am low on memory)
8. Better loan handling (I don't have to keep track of the payment number; Quicken can figure the interest for my mortgage correctly without it, but Money never gets it correct)
9. Easier method of changing transaction types (you can only change a deposit to a withdrawal in Money, for example, before you enter it; once you enter it, you're stuck)
10. Better method for cutting and copying transactions (but you do have to paste, which you don't in Money)

So, for what I use the two programs for, I think Quicken is better than Money -- and that's Quicken 2000 beating Money 2002. To be fair, I've been using Quicken for almost three years (my previous finance program had Y2K issues) and Money for only 7 months, so I may know Quicken better than I know Money.

So, to get back to PocketQuick, if PocketQuick were cheaper, I'd seriously consider upgrading to Quicken 2003.

Steve

ThomasC22

11-13-2002, 01:08 AM

But, like I posted before, you can't deny that Microsoft has the better product
Not sure who you're getting your input from, but I don't believe anyone has awarded the victory to MS in the personal finance app nitch! It also strikes me as obvious that you do not acutally use either product based upon a lack of any credible input that is based upon experience with them. So, until you have something to offer the reader about the strengths of Quicken versus MS Money, perhaps a milder tone would be in order?? :way to go:

ummm...did you see my post earlier in this thread? with all the reviews, that one :eek:

That being said, I shouldn't have said "you can't deny" you certainly could dent, but still believe MS to have the better product (and yes I have tried used them both)

ThomasC22

11-13-2002, 01:12 AM

Rob Alexander

11-13-2002, 02:48 AM

"No, LandWare is still committed to providing Pocket Quicken for the
Pocket PC. Our current status can be found at
http://www.landware.com/pocketquicken/ppc/."

Well they don't act very committed by my standards. I can appreciate, as they say on that web page, that it's a major job, but they've had over two years. Give me a break! These aren't kids programming in their rooms between homework assignments, they're professional programmers. It would appear that they simply have other priorities and are not really serious about Pocket Quicken. I'd rather have a full-fledged Pocket Quicken than a synch manager, but since Landware is obviously dragging their feet, I'll take what I can get.

By the time Landware gets their product out, I'll be running regular Quicken on my 2nd generation Tablet PC and won't need a PPC version any more. :way to go:

"Please note that Pocket Quicken by LandWare will be the only
'blessed' product and will actually have true connectivity with your
Quicken data file. PocketQuick by SPB utilizes QIF import."

Oh, well... as long as it has Intuit's blessing :werenotworthy: then I guess I'll just back off and wait another two years. :silly: I'm sure I'd rather have all the mythical Landware features, but they've had their chance. I'd rather have a less capable product that actually exists than a
more capable one that doesn't.

Wiggin

11-13-2002, 03:44 AM

ummm...did you see my post earlier in this thread? with all the reviews
If you make your buy/pass decisions on sites like CNET, well, then, that speaks volumes in itself.
As for your PCWorld post, let me quote the very first two sentences from the article:
"Looking for a top-notch personal finance manager? Grab Quicken 2002 before it disappears from store shelves. "
I'll also draw your attention to the author's estimate of 16 million users. Guess a few folks have concluded Quicken is good enough for them. :D

I shouldn't have said "you can't deny" you certainly could dent, but still believe MS to have the better product (and yes I have tried used them both)

With full-blown packages such as Quicken or Money, a user will only understand the strengths and weaknesses after extensive use, including year-end processing, handling capital events (long and short term), processing Loans (both taken and given), etc etc. IMHO of course 8)
Curious, how long did you "use them both"? Did you pick one? Did you select something else?

I have used Quicken for over 5 years, and have tried to move over to Money twice in order to have "mobile" finance on my various MS OS handheld devices. Each time I've gone back. Intuit has a great product, and MS has been chasing it ever since it entered the nitch. If in fact MS's 2003 product (which is in beta) has finally caught up, well good on 'em! :way to go:
But to keep your focus on the topic... let's discuss the merits of the limited [future] options for Quicken users shall we??

dbrhodes

11-13-2002, 04:08 AM

If I recall correctly, it was Microsoft who tried their best to acquire Quicken but failed. You know MS policy: "If you can't beat them...Buy them".

I've also used both and it was the PPC that made me even try Money. I went back to Quicken and have been waiting for a decent PPC companion to come along...this application looks promising.

Donald in Virginia

pdajunkies

11-13-2002, 06:17 AM

Is it me or everytime I check up on the web page to see the status, there is a new screen shot?

If they need screen shots taken before they can release, hell... give it to me and I will take screen shots of every single action and make an animated GIF that has a rough size of 2.2mb. Ok ok, I know they are doing something a little bit more substantial that capturing screens.

HURRY UP! Ok, don't hurry up, just release a stable app. NO, HURRY UP!

pdajunkies

11-13-2002, 06:18 AM

I think I have also noticed that they have changed the title to Spb Quick from PocketQuick...

or did I read that somewhere else?

Larry Day

11-13-2002, 06:20 AM

Pocket Quicken is the ONLY application I miss from my Visor days. I will gladly pay $39 for the Landware product, just from my experience with the Palm version. I too tried MS Money just for the PPC feature, but after it hosed my data for the 3rd time, I went back to my beloved Quicken (been using ot since version 3 for DOS). I upgrade every 2-3 years, just as a routine, not because I "Need" the new features, but just to have the support (which is excellent).

Me- I'll wait.

Pony99CA

11-13-2002, 05:38 PM

So, for what I use the two programs for, I think Quicken is better than Money -- and that's Quicken 2000 beating Money 2002. To be fair, I've been using Quicken for almost three years (my previous finance program had Y2K issues) and Money for only 7 months, so I may know Quicken better than I know Money.

Well, I'm not sure Quicken 2000 is better than Money 2002 but I will tell you, having used both, Quicken 2000 IS a lot better than Quicken 2002

"Better" is subjective, of course. I just meant that it's better for me. There are features of both that I like, and features of both that I don't like, but, on balance, I like using Quicken 2000 more than using Microsoft Money 2002.

btw - are you sure this works with Quicken 2000 (the post says 2001 or better)?

I didn't say PocketQuick would work with Quicken 2000. That's why I said:

So, to get back to PocketQuick, if PocketQuick were cheaper, I'd seriously consider upgrading to Quicken 2003.

If PocketQuick would work with Quicken 2000, I probably wouldn't upgrade to 2003 at all.

Steve

msprague

11-13-2002, 07:44 PM

Has any one tried this yet? Seems like it might be worth the $15 and they do have a trial version. I would try it out, but I don't use Quicken or Money yet. Thinking about it though...

NEW PoQuick Money Professional V3 (http://www.handango.com/brainstore/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=311&platformId=2&productType=2&productId=47304&sectionId=0&catalog=30)Can be used as a stand alone package to run your business or personal finances; you don't need a PC anymore !
Designed to look and feel just like the desktop money application that you are used to.
Color coded to show you your cleared, uncleared etc transactions.
Supports import and export of qif transaction files from your favorite desktop program or online bank account.
3D graphs to choose from including account balances, net worth, income, expenses etc.
3D pie charts of income and expenditure to show you exactly where your money has gone.
Produce Profit and Loss reports and a Balance Sheet.

vassiliphilippov

11-13-2002, 08:53 PM

Spb Quick is released

You can find more information about the product, download 15 days trial version and purchase it from:
http://www.softspb.com/products/quick/index.html

http://www.softspb.com/products/quick/quick.jpg

Vassili Philippov
MS-MVP Mobile Devices
Spb Software House

jim s

11-13-2002, 08:53 PM

The demo is available now! I am downloading as we speak, but won't be able to try it as my e740 is being serviced as we speak. New ROM and all! :D

rtrueman

11-13-2002, 10:11 PM

Uuuuugghhhhhh. Like every other PDA Quicken product I've tried, this can't seem to get my balances straight. :cry: I've been a Quicken power user since '94, have dozens of accounts (many not visible cause they're not used) and have lots of data in my file. When I try to select only my current checking, credit, brokerage and home equity lines, the program shows the wrong balances for all of them. I've sent an email off to their Tech Support. Hopefully, I'll be able to get this software running correctly!

Rob

Wiggin

11-13-2002, 10:17 PM

Oh well... the wait continues.... :cry:
After downloading, installing, and playing with the app, there are still some bugs for Andrei to work out.
The good news: :D
- Simple install process
- Correctly found sw and data files on the PC
- Successfully transfered trans data to the PPC :multi:
- Fast transfer
- Screens are straight forward, easy to use, and provide adequate detail
- Transfered catagory info across, and pulled over auto-fill data
- Transaction entered on the PPC was successfully passed back to the PC (via QIF) :way to go:

The bad news: :cry:
- Did not transfer ALL transactions from each account - was pretty good with charges txns, failed completely on payment txns
- Completely ignored Account Transfer transactions
- Account balances were totally off (due to the points above)

So, the bar has been raised somewhat, and it was VERY kewl having [some] Quicken data on the PPC. We're still short of a fully-working app, but getting oh-so-close!!

dbrhodes

11-14-2002, 03:04 AM

I downloaded and installed it as well. The program looks and works well enough that it makes you wish very hard that it worked correctly. But it doesn't :cry: At least that's my experience. When it comes to financial software, "almost works perfectly", just ain't good enough. My balances are almost right but they are wrong. Other peculiar things happening as well such as FROM and TO account names being the same for a transfer.
The program looks and feel quite nice and I have waited so long for a Quicken PPC companion that I will monitor this one and see if these bugs get fixed. I certainly hope so and then I'll gladly pay the 29.99 purchase price. BUT NOT NOW.

Donald

BugDude10

11-19-2002, 06:36 PM

Well, any further observations from users of this new software? (I anticipate a bundle w/rebates of the newest Quicken and TurboTax at the end of the year, and will seriously consider going back to Quicken from Money if this app works well.)

PGNews

12-05-2002, 06:31 PM

FYI:

Version 1.0.5: Fixed amounts rounding; Fixes and improvements to synchronization.
Version 1.0.4: Fixed Y2K problem with certain versions of Quicken; other minor fixes.
Version 1.0.3: More improvements to synchronization; fixed issue with transcriber; regional settings support (dates and currencies; other minor bug fixes.
Version 1.0.2: Improved desktop synchronization.

Version 1.0.1: Fixed issue with incorrect accounts balance.

http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=6208