New Toshiba Offering

[Brad Adrian]

<a href="http://msn-cnet.com.com/2100-1040-962077.html?tag=lh">http://msn-cnet.com.com/2100-1040-962077.html?tag=lh</a><br /><br />CNet today is reporting that Toshiba has announced the launch of yet another Pocket PC, the e335. Details of the e335 are still kind of skimpy, but the article cites these specs:<br /><br />• 300MHz PXA250 XScale processor<br />• 64MB RAM<br />• Priced at $399 before a $50 rebate<br /><br />These are essentially identical to those mentioned for Toshiba's <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3779">new e330</a>, but the e335 will apparently include a different software bundle than the enterprise-focused e330.

[xbalance]

Why would anyone want the e335 over the v35? I am still wating for the Dell.

[bdeli]

More details from Toshiba's website:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?R51931422

Specification sheet: http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/product/pdf_files/detailed_specs/pocketpc_e330.pdf

[kagayaki1]

LOL, that's about $150 too much, isn't it? (no rebate on the v35...)

-Jason

[jngold_me]

Same specs except the V35 has that gorgeous Transreflective screen. Seems like a no-brainer to me (unless of course the Viewsonic turns out to be a quality assurance nightmare aka. Casio E-200).

[mookie123]

One thing aggrevating about Toshiba. Where is the accessory? This model could be a winner if it can accep E740 big battery.

But than again maybe they gonna sell E740 for $399 soon.

[Boxster S]

LOL, who the hell is going to buy this thing for $150 more than a V35? PUUUUUUUUUUUUHLEASEEEEEEEEEE

[Xaximus]

Viewsonic and Dell are my best friends. Nice try, Toshiba.

[Ce]

Knowing that a 400 MHz Xscale performs almost the same as a StrongArm at 206 MHz I'm very curious how a 300 MHz Xscale performs...unless....Microsoft did some tweaking afterall

[rokitrod]

I'm waiting for a model with a cover like the Jornada. I don't understand why nobody else is considering that.

[Jonathon Watkins]

Nope - Viewsonic and Dell still seem the best. :D Now lets have some reviews to back them up!

[Timothy Rapson]

We could wait for the actual selling prices, guys. Remember the e310 is $399 too, but lots of people got them for the equivalent of $200, some for $150.

The bottom line, though:
We wish you a Merry Christmas
We wish you a Merry Chrismas
We wish you a Merry Christmas

And a new P...P..C

[Sven Johannsen]

I'm waiting for a model with a cover like the Jornada. I don't understand why nobody else is considering that.

They're probably all getting kickbacks from case manufacturers ;)

[Paragon]

PRICE WARS!!!

Now if we could just get Dell and ViewSonic to start selling GAS!

Dave

[normaldude]

I'm waiting for a model with a cover like the Jornada. I don't understand why nobody else is considering that.

I'm with you on that one. Pocket PCs need flip covers. Palms/Handsprings/Sonys/Zauruses all have flip covers. It's not rocket science.

In the meantime, I attached a Parallel Design clear flip cover to my Toshiba e310.
http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61530

And I think miked is starting to ship his aluminum flip covers.
http://www.thepocketsolution.com

[enemy2k2]

Why is having a flip cover so important on a PPC? My current handheld folds up using a clamshell design so I don't have much experience with any problems that may be caused with not having protection for it. From my thinking a simple screen overlay would be all that's needed for protection since it's a stylus intensive device, not to mention rubbing against pocket linings. Is there anything more than protecting it from scuffs and scratches? Or do overlays not do a good job of protecting the screen from such things? Or could it be even worse in that the screens are fragile and prone to breaking? 8O If I get a V35 or perhaps even Dell, I definitely wouldn't want a leather cover adding bulk, lithe and scantily clad is what I prefer. Flip covers I see as somewhat inconvenient, I feel that these also spoil the look of the device. I would appreciate any light shed on this matter, thank you.

[Brad Adrian]

...lithe and scantily clad is what I prefer...
Truer words were never spoken. :D

[Paragon]

Why is having a flip cover so important on a PPC?

With a flip cover you can put your Pocket PC in you POCKET very comfortably whether you are wearing a suit or beach shorts. If you don't have a lid you then need a case to protect the screen from being damaged.

If you are a Jornada owner you understand the difference of easily throwing a Jornada in your pocket compared to an Ipaq with a sleeve, and a case. What a huge difference.

I have said this many times and I will continue to say it " An internal CF slot, and a flip lid are what make a true POCKET PC.

Every Pocket PC should come with one. If you don't want it simply take it off. Geeeez if Palm can figure it out why can't PPC developers.

[end rant]

Dave

[Boxster S]

We could wait for the actual selling prices, guys. Remember the e310 is $399 too, but lots of people got them for the equivalent of $200, some for $150.

The bottom line, though:
We wish you a Merry Christmas
We wish you a Merry Chrismas
We wish you a Merry Christmas

And a new P...P..C

But the e310 has been on the market for MONTHS now. The ONLY reason why it is so cheap now is b/c the e330/335 are coming out and they are trying to clear out the old models.

[WillyG]

One thing i don't get with Toshiba is their choice of batteries :?
While other Pocket Pc manufacturers chose batteries with around 1500mAh, Toshiba is insisting on giving the user just 2/3 og that. I really dont believe their units are 33% more power efficient than the others. Especially not the 740 with its wireless capabilities. According to the spec's, the new device comes with that 1000mAh battery too.

Just to compare:
Compaq iPAQ -> 1400 mAh
Fijutsu Siemens Loox -> 1520 mAh

And of the new contenders:
Dell's unit -> 1440 mAh

ViewSonic only says "Long-life lithium-ion battery lasts up to 10 hours." in their spec. Would be interesting to know what choice they have made.

Maybe im picky (geeky) focusing on this, but i believe a Pocket Pc need all the power it can get. And choosing a cheap battery to reduce costs, simply is not the way to do it.

[toshtoshtosh]

Willy, those 3 you mention are larger units. The e310/Zayo/v35 are in a different league (lightweight), and that's why a 1000mAh battery is acceptable.

[JonnoB]

But than again maybe they gonna sell E740 for $399 soon.

Just about... it can be had for about $410 after rebates.

[WillyG]

Willy, those 3 you mention are larger units. The e310/Zayo/v35 are in a different league (lightweight), and that's why a 1000mAh battery is acceptable.

Agree on the leagues, except i dont think the hi-end e740 deserves to be put there. And then we have the Dell unit to mess up this logic with its 1440mAh battery ;). Even if we say all those are units are in the "junior-league" im still not sure if i agree with the manufacturers if they start redusing battery life propotional with the cost of the unit. Whats next? 99$ units wich last 1 hour...with the backlight off? :!:

Tosh: btw, hows ur unit doing? Up and running again after ur update experiments? :)

[toshtoshtosh]

But than again maybe they gonna sell E740 for $399 soon.

Just about... it can be had for about $410 after rebates.

Here you go, $370 without rebates :D.

http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62555

[normaldude]

Why is having a flip cover so important on a PPC? My current handheld folds up using a clamshell design so I don't have much experience with any problems that may be caused with not having protection for it.

I always carry my Pocket PC in my front right pants pocket. Sometimes there are other sharp or hard objects in my pocket (pens, coins, keys, etc). In a pair of jeans, the fit will be tight. When I sit down, the fit will definitely be tight, and objects will be pressed together. I do not feel comfortable having hard, sharp objects pressed against my PDA screen. And yes, I do have a clear screen protector (NuShield), and it works great for daily stylus use. But I'm not going to rely on it for protection against hard, sharp objects.

Additionally, sometimes my Pocket PC might be turned on while in my pocket (accidental button press, or forgot to turn it off when placing in pocket). With an exposed screen, who knows what could happen with random pressings. Appointments could get deleted, etc.

You have a clamshell PDA (Sony?), so you already have the hard screen protection. That works too. I just hate the exposed screens on Pocket PCs. That's why I attached a Parallel Design clear flip cover to my Toshiba e310.

[Timothy Rapson]

Why is having a flip cover so important on a PPC? .
With an exposed screen, who knows what could happen with random pressings. Appointments could get deleted, etc
.

I am with you on this.

I just don't get it. Casio includes a cover in their cheapest PocketViewer that sells for #29.95 on some clearence tables. If you want to protect something worth protecting like a $600 E-200 you are have to pony up more money and get something that does not really do the job like a Jornada cover always has.
I just don't get it.

[mv]

I'm waiting for a model with a cover like the Jornada. I don't understand why nobody else is considering that.

I will love that, but i can´t wait forever. The v35 seems great. Paying $100 more for the e330 is stupid...

[Fzara]

So why wouldnt one just get the E740? 400mhz XScale, built in WiFi....dual expansion slots....and then you add on the BT SD card...and you're set.
Whats up with the E330/E335 having a reflective screen? That is so year 2000 :lol:
Flip covers are very important. On my previous M500, I had a side-flip cover, which was rather loose most of the time, but was a nice thing to have.

[enemy2k2]

[quote=enemy2k2]You have a clamshell PDA (Sony?), so you already have the hard screen protection. That works too.

Actually, it's a Diamond Mako (rebadged Psion Revo Plus), it opens up to reveal a 480x160 monochrome non-backlit display and full QWERTY keyboard. Much more than a Palm, but less than a PPC. Though the OS kicks butt. Just want to be able to take advantage of all the cool features and sofware available for the PPC. This seems like an opportune time to jump into the PPC world considering the price drops!

[enemy2k2]

...lithe and scantily clad is what I prefer...
Truer words were never spoken. :D

Display coyly hiding behind nothing but a translucent screen protector revealing the warmth of colourful luminescence to be had within, teasingly tittering through it's teensy tweeter tempting touch of it's smooth unblemished metallic curves :twisted: