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Jeremy Charette
01-21-2008, 03:00 PM
<p><img src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/500/dht/auto/1200877739.usr17787.jpg" border="1" alt="" /></p><p>Over on EngadgetHD I've been having a discussion about bit rates with George Ou of ZDNet.&nbsp; George <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=959">argues</a> that unless the content you are watching is at least 28 mbps 1080p, it's &quot;fake HD&quot;.&nbsp; Nevermind that the HD spec. includes resolutions from 1024x768 up to 3840x2160, and that it doesn't specify a bit rate (or rates).&nbsp; He goes on to say that Xbox Live Video Marketplace downloads in HD are &quot;slightly better than DVD&nbsp;but nowhere near 1080i over-the-air HD broadcast quality.&quot;</p><p>Unfortunately George's argument is so narrow that he is ignoring several other factors that are for more significant.&nbsp; The real world considerations go far beyond bit rate and resolution.&nbsp; The per pixel bit rate for 720p XBLVM downloads is nearly identical to a 1080i OTA broadcast, and even identical to real world HD DVD bit rates.&nbsp; Granted, the resolution is lower, but the you won't see any added compression artifacts over 1080p HD discs.&nbsp; As it turns out, resolution is a <a href="http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-6810011-1.html">non-issue</a> for most people:</p><p>Almost every HDTV in homes today is 720p, not 1080p.&nbsp; The extra resolution available on HD DVD and Blu-Ray is <a href="http://www.hometheatermag.com/gearworks/0105viewvrez/">wasted on most people</a>.&nbsp; What's more, to take advantage of that extra resolution, you'd need:</p><ul> <li>1080p native source (many lower end HD players can only to 1080i or 720p)</li> <li>A 1080p HDTV that can display full resolution with 1:1 pixel mapping</li> <li>Screen size larger than 50&quot;</li> <li>To be sitting closer than 10 feet</li></ul><p>So who can tell the difference&nbsp;given these conditions?&nbsp; Maybe a tenth of a percent of all HDTV owners?&nbsp; A hundredth?&nbsp; Less?&nbsp; Yes, HD DVD and Blu-Ray are better than XBLVM downloads&nbsp;under theoretically ideal circumstances,&nbsp;but the vast majority of people will never notice the difference.</p><p>Then there's the issue of compression algorithms.&nbsp; DVD is encoded in MPEG-2, whereas most HD content is encoded in h.264 or VC-1.&nbsp; To hear George tell&nbsp;it, you'd think they were equals.&nbsp; Fact is the newer codecs result in smaller file sizes, fewer artifacts, and better picture quality.&nbsp; Next thing you know George will be arguing that JPEG should be abolished and all cameras should shoot in RAW.</p><p>It really irks me when people focus on minutiae, rather than taking the big picture into account.&nbsp; Full 1080p video downloads aren't yet practical.&nbsp; There isn't enough bandwidth to make it work.&nbsp; Most of the HDTV sets out there are 720p.&nbsp; In the real world, <a href="http://www.xyhd.tv/2006/12/reviews/why-xbox-live-video-marketplace-competes-well-visually-with-hd-dvd/">Xbox Live downloads are just as good as HD discs</a>.&nbsp; Better yet, you don't have to&nbsp;make a trip to the store to pick one up.</p>

Stinger
01-21-2008, 05:36 PM
I've got another question for anyone who has bought into a HD format - what's the sound like?

I find the difference between Dolby Digital 5.1 and dts easily distinguishable on a mid-range ($600 amp, $2000 speaker set) system. I assume the HD format include even better sound quality and it might convince me to invest in a HD format (probably Blu Ray).

Can anyone comment on the sound quality of Blu-Ray/HD-DVD/HD download movies?

Jason Dunn
01-21-2008, 07:40 PM
A very interesting article! With all the format wars raging, over the last year I've tended to trust my eyes more than anything else: and the HD movie I downloaded from Xbox Live looked quite good. That's all I really care about. :)

Jason Dunn
01-21-2008, 07:41 PM
Can anyone comment on the sound quality of Blu-Ray/HD-DVD/HD download movies?

HD-DVD and Xbox Live Marketplace videos sound...good. That's about all I can tell you, as I'm less of a home theatre audiophile than you are. :D

Jeremy Charette
01-21-2008, 07:58 PM
I'm the wrong person to ask. I have no hearing in one ear, so it may as well be mono.

Of course I figured this out only AFTER I invested $1500 in a mid-range DD 5.1 system. Whoops!