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Jason Dunn
06-12-2006, 03:00 PM
I've had my Nikon D200 for a couple of months now, but I haven't felt I've had a "complete" kit because I've been lacking a good wide-angle lens. I read through many reviews, and talked to some knowledgeable people, about what lens was the best value for the dollar. The <a href="http://www.nikon.ca/products/afs-dx-zoom-12-24/">Nikon 12-24 is quite expensive</a> - my media discount rate was still about $1250 CND ($1150 USD), and after dropping a whack of cash on the camera, the 18-200 lens, and accessories, I just wasn't prepared to spend another $1200 on the Nikon 12-24. The Tokina 12-24 lens is about half the price, and in the reviews I've read it rates nearly as highly as the Nikon lens. The problem was getting one: I've had one on pre-order from Toronto's DVSHOP since, oh, March. To this day, still no phone call. So a few weeks ago I got fed up and started really hunting around. I contacted Tokina directly and discovered a few things - the main problem is that Tokina has no official distributors in Canada. Any Canadian vendors selling Tokina lenses (of which there aren't many) are buying them from the US. The other problem is that this 12-24 lens is incredibly popular, and apparently most of the factory output is being gobbled up by consumers in Japan.<br /><br />Since there are no Canadian distributors, that means I didn't have to worry about Canadian warranty (there isn't one!). So I started searching for a vendor in the US that sold the Tokina lens, and also shipped to Canada. It proved to be a very short list, but I ended up placing an order with <a href="http://www.adorama.com">Adorama</a>. It took nearly a month for them to get me the lens, but that's still better than the DV Shop was able to do, and it's finally in my hands. And the final cost was $530 USD, including shipping and a Mack seven year extended warranty. There will be a customs bill coming as well, sadly.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/images/tokina-12-24-finally-here.jpg" /><!><br /><br />Because of the 1.5x multiplier, the 12-24 is really 18mm to to 36mm. That's an improvement over the 27mm to 300mm real-world zoom on my Nikon 18-200, though perhaps not as much as I was hoping. But if I wanted super wide-angle, I would have got a full-frame sensor like the 5D, right? The focus/zoom rings are the opposite of my Nikon lens, meaning the the ring on the front of the lens is for focusing, and the zoom ring is on the back. I predict grasping the wrong ring a lot.<br /><br />The construction is very solid - this is a heavy (20.1 oz., 570g), quality lens. The lens body is made of metal and rubber, and the focus rings have a smooth glide to them. The lens takes massive 77mm filters, which means I can finally use the Hoya 81A filter I bought months ago thinking it would fit my 18-200 (which of course it didn't, it takes 72mm filters). Interesting enough, I may use this lens for macro/product photos more than anything else. It can focus on items as close as 30 cm (11.8 inches) from the lens, while my 18-200 needs to be 19.2 inches away from the subject. Here's a <a href="http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/images/tokina-macro.jpg">resized photo I took of some CDs</a> on my desk. I'm heading out to Hawaii in November, which is the real reason I purchased this lens. I'm looking forward to getting some great landscape shots!<br /><br />The Tokina 12-24 is available for both Nikon and Canon DSLRs, and can be had for <a href="http://thoughtsmedia.pricegrabber.com/search_attrib.php?page_id=545&form_keyword=tokina+12-24&rd=1">as low as $438 USD</a> according to our Pricegrabber store.<br /><br /><i>Jason Dunn owns and operates <a href="http://www.thoughtsmedia.com">Thoughts Media Inc.</a>, a company dedicated to creating the best in online communities. He enjoys mobile devices, digital media content creation/editing, and pretty much all technology. He lives in Calgary, Alberta, Canada with his lovely wife, his sometimes obedient dog, and really, really likes his Nikon D200.</i>

Neil Enns
06-12-2006, 03:30 PM
Congrats on the purchase! You'll have lots of fun with it, but it will definitely take a while to get used to the vast expanse you can capture with it.

I agree on the macro side. I've used my 17-40 to take pictures that, when printed, look like they're done with a macro of some sort, but are really just overhead shots of flowers and such.

Neil

Vincent Ferrari
06-12-2006, 03:32 PM
Jason,

Next time you want something from Adorama, Paypal me the money and I'll go downtown and get it for you. I guarantee that you'll end up getting it quicker :-)

marlof
06-12-2006, 04:30 PM
Jason, congrats. And don't worry about going wider than 18mm FOV. You'll find that hard enough to tame as it is! Great fun though.

Lee Yuan Sheng
06-12-2006, 04:30 PM
You can't that much wider on the 5D. 14mm is about the best, and even that it's a specialist lens, because it's has a FOV and forces a perspective that needs a skilled eye and hand to use.

Believe me, 16-18mm is about as wide as you want to get. Myself I think 20mm is pretty good; the extra is for the times when the scene requires that little extra room to breathe.

Oh, and the Tokina rings aren't "wrong"; the Nikkor one is. The new Nikkor consumer lenses (and the 12-24) place the zoom ring in front of the smaller focusing ring. Traditional Nikkors place the zoom ring behind the focusing ring. At least you didn't get the Sigma; the rings are in the same location as the Tokina, but they turn the other way!

rtrueman
06-12-2006, 08:51 PM
Jason,

Nice lens. I've heard good things, but haven't purchased a non-Nikkor for many, many years. I keep wanting to invest in a wide-angle, but can't justify yet. Most of my photos are stock images and most of those macro (Nikkor 60mm micro off of eBay). I'd like to pull the trigger on the new 105mm VR Micro, but am waiting to sell a few more images.

Let us know your thoughts on the new purchase!

Rob

Doug Johnson
06-14-2006, 01:51 AM
How are the optics? My experience with non-OEM lenses has been quite disappointing.

Jason Dunn
06-14-2006, 09:25 PM
How are the optics? My experience with non-OEM lenses has been quite disappointing.

This is the best resource I found when trying to decide which lens to purchase:

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/digital-wide-zooms/comparison.htm