Adobe Welcomes Apple Aperture

[James Fee]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2005/10/welcome_apple.html' target='_blank'>http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2005/10/welcome_apple.html</a><br /><br /></div><i>"Aperture is a cool product, no question. Apple's designers have a great aesthetic, and their marketing is second-to-none. (This is the company, after all, that can sell the <a href="http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/">iPod Shuffle's</a> lack of screen as a lifestyle choice.) Aperture zips around on quad G5's with four GPUs, and I'm looking forward to getting it onto my PowerBook 17" to see how it might run in the field. As Apple is the first to say, Aperture is <a href="http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/10/19/notpsd/index.php">not designed to be a Photoshop competitor</a>. It has a number of very slick features (I dig the Web gallery creator in particular), but if you're looking to do something as simple as make a selection and sharpen someone's eyes, you're out of luck. That's not a knock--just a reflection of what Aperture is and is not. Fortunately Apple has a one-click method of sending a PSD to Photoshop for further editing."</i><br /><br /> <img src="http://www.digitalmediathoughts.com/images/cs2_welcome.jpg" /> <br /><br />I personally haven't had an opportunity to play with Aperture yet, but I'm getting a little worried about how GUIs have changed over the past few years in high end imaging software. I know the classic Photoshop GUI down by heart and this move toward eye candy (Take Photoshop Elements 3 and 4 for example) confuses the hell out of me. I'm sure there are some great ideas in Aperture, but don't emulate the fancy buttons. Some say the GUI of Photoshop is still in the early 90's and I like it that way.

[Suhit Gupta]

Wow, because I remember that back in the day, Photoshop was basically optimized for the Mac. So it is interesting that Apple has chosen to create its own solution than partner with Adobe. Although, I guess it works well with Apple's philosophy of creating an end-to-end hardware/software solution for its customer. The UI for Aperture is quite nice and most preliminary reviews are generally positive. It looks like it has an optimized way of working with RAW files, something that is usually slow and hard in most other pieces of software, which is a major advantage and I can see consumers with Digital SLRs loving this feature. Have any of you purchased Aperture already?

Suhit

[James Fee]

Its really not a compeditor for photoshop as it doesn't even support layers in PSDs. It appears this is more of a iPhoto pro than even a photshop elements.

[mjhamson]

Its really not a competitor for photoshop as it doesn't even support layers in PSDs. It appears this is more of a iPhoto pro than even a photoshop elements.

I could go to town on this post (no flame intended James).

1st off, there is PSD layer support... there is just not editing support for the layers. This is understandable as the program is not designed to be a Photoshop at all. which leads into my 2nd point.

2nd: this application is for Pro Photographers. It is all about workflow. Pro photographers have a very specific and well used process that has never been brought to the computer.

Aperture is NOT a bigger version of iPhoto and to say so is to proclaim ignorance of the product and the market that this protect is destined for.

As someone who has worked along and as a Pro Photographer... I can tell you that this application simply ROCKS.

I have also been a big user of CaptureOne, Photoshop, and several other tools... so I feel that I can come to you from a knowledgeable position.... and it seems since my pro friends consider me a GoTo-guy... I guess I can feel confident about this claim. :-)

Like i have told others... go to a respectable pro (there is emphasis on this) and look how they work... then scour the program... analyze it... and then you will have a different understanding.

-Michael

[James Fee]

1st off, there is PSD layer support... there is just not editing support for the layers. This is understandable as the program is not designed to be a Photoshop at all. which leads into my 2nd point.If you are unable to edit layers, it cannot be a photoshop compeditor. End of story.

2nd: this application is for Pro Photographers. It is all about workflow. Pro photographers have a very specific and well used process that has never been brought to the computer.
Except they already use native applications form Canon and Nikon as well as Photoshop. Why bring another program into the workflow?

Aperture is NOT a bigger version of iPhoto and to say so is to proclaim ignorance of the product and the market that this protect is destined for.No support of layers means DOA. Any pro will tell you layers are needed and why should I bother with Aperture if Photoshop already does all this?

As someone who has worked along and as a Pro Photographer... I can tell you that this application simply ROCKS.Enjoy it all you want, I don't doubt people might want to buy it/use it, but don't claim it is even 1/10 the program that Photoshop is and it is much more the cost. This is so a move to keep iPhoto users from moving to Photoshop.

I have also been a big user of CaptureOne, Photoshop, and several other tools... so I feel that I can come to you from a knowledgeable position.... and it seems since my pro friends consider me a GoTo-guy... I guess I can feel confident about this claim. :-)As I said, some people might enjoy it, but people seem to be thinking this is some sort of Photoshop play and it isn't. This program has so much more in common with iPhoto than it does Photoshop.

Like i have told others... go to a respectable pro (there is emphasis on this) and look how they work... then scour the program... analyze it... and then you will have a different understanding. Thanks, I work with one and he says the same thing I do about the program. But yes he did buy it because he is a Macintosh nut. He would rather stick with Capture than bring this into his workflow and after watching him use it I can see it is all about eye candy and nothing about reducing workflows.

In the end all of this makes me say again....

Aperature is iPhoto Pro

Add some features to reduce work flows then you might have something. As Apple said, they are only making a grab at RAW and I commend them for that (3 years too late).

[mjhamson]

James, I am sorry to say that you are completely and absolutely ignorant of Pro photography and the Aperture application. I am sorry my explanation was not clear and precise enough to bring better understanding. I think in time you will see and/or understand... -m

- Let me add, its great the we have our opinions. Just sometimes it seems some are rather blinder then others.

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C'mon James, are you just gonna take that? ;)