Motorola Q with HSDPA and WiFi by Christmas?

[Rocco Augusto]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/06/21/motorola-q-with-hsdpa-and-wifi-by-christmas' target='_blank'>http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/06/21/motorola-q-with-hsdpa-and-wifi-by-christmas</a><br /><br /></div><i>"QWERTY smartphone fans on GSM carriers, cautiously rejoice: our Italian is admittedly a little rusty, but Italy's Cellulare Magazine seems to be reporting some unconfirmed, wildly speculative deets regarding the forthcoming GSM Q. Not only might it drop in time for Christmas (in Europe, anyway), but when it does, it might be bearing gifts of WiFi and HSDPA for its patient buyers -- up from the previously reported plain-vanilla UMTS -- while maintaining the same lovely form factor. They're also reporting the device will rock quad-band GSM, meaning anxious North Americans should have little trouble jumping the gun if it launches in Europe first. Of course, if the HSDPA support doesn't come in all the right bands, the US will get left out of the 3G fun and we might just end up with another E61 / E62 debacle, but let's not get ahead of ourselves"</i><br /><br /><img src="http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/images/augusto-2006.06.06-motoQ.jpg" alt="User submitted image" title="User submitted image"/><br /><br />This is just a rumor and I for one hope there is a little bit of truth to it. From all of the reviews I have read, this appears to be a solid device. The main two things that everyone can agree this device lacks happens to be WiFi and a GSM/UTMS version for the rest of the world. So the good news is we might see one as early as Christmas. The bad news Christmas is so far away ;)

[mpaquette]

An update that includes MSFP would be nice. I was ready to give one these a try until I found out that wasn't included. Now that I've been using push email for a few weeks, I don't think I can use a device without it.

[The PocketTV Team]

> everyone can agree this device lacks happens to be WiFi

i don't think the mobile carriers would agree with that!

mobile carriers (i.e. cell phone companies) hate WiFi!

that's because WiFi allows people to call for free of for just 2 cents per minute (including long distance and international), with Voip software such as Skype.

so they do everything they can to discourage manufacturers to put WiFi in their devices.

unfortunately WiFi is almost un-avoidable for data-oriented devices (like Pocket PC), and the Motorola Q, since it has a keyboard, is quite data-oriented, so WiFi would be nice.

By the way, i wrote a small review of the motorola Q (http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=73666#73666)...

[Sven Johannsen]

mobile carriers (i.e. cell phone companies) hate WiFi!

Really? Seems T-Mobile didn't get the memo. They not only sell devices with WiFi, they have one of the most reasonable data plans around. $30 for unlimited GPRS/EDGE and unlimited T-Mobile HotSpot access. That's of course if you get a minimal voice plan ($30), but hey, it's a phone. You can get just the data plan for $50, but that comes with Pay a$ you go voice. 50 minutes of voice and you ate up the $10 savings.

PS wouldn't bother me in the least to not have WiFi in a device that has decent data capability. Some form of 3G would be nice, but even EDGE isn't all that slow. It's certainly acceptable for e-mail. As long as I stay at web sites where the webmaster understands and supports mobile browsers, the web isn't bad either. The availability of WiFi is improving, but still way behind the coverage of the cell system.

[The PocketTV Team]

mobile carriers (i.e. cell phone companies) hate WiFi!

Really? Seems T-Mobile didn't get the memo. They not only sell devices with WiFi, they have one of the most reasonable data plans around. $30 for unlimited GPRS/EDGE and unlimited T-Mobile HotSpot access. That's of course if you get a minimal voice plan ($30), but hey, it's a phone. You can get just the data plan for $50, but that comes with Pay a$ you go voice. 50 minutes of voice and you ate up the $10 savings.

yes, T-mobile loves data-oriented devices, such as Pocket PC Phones.

i suppose that they found ways to get revenues even though their customers can call long-distance and international for almost free using Voip.

but i don't think all other mobile carriers really consider WiFi as something important to have on their cellphones, from a business point.

[Macguy59]

I left the world of WM based smartphones about 2 years ago but this device may be the one to bring me back. I am concerned about reports of poor battery life with the Q. Can you comment on that?

[Mike Temporale]

I left the world of WM based smartphones about 2 years ago but this device may be the one to bring me back. I am concerned about reports of poor battery life with the Q. Can you comment on that?

So far, the battery had been pretty good. I've been running for a full 24 hours with the device set to check email every hour and the battery life still showing full.

[Macguy59]

I left the world of WM based smartphones about 2 years ago but this device may be the one to bring me back. I am concerned about reports of poor battery life with the Q. Can you comment on that?

So far, the battery had been pretty good. I've been running for a full 24 hours with the device set to check email every hour and the battery life still showing full.

Talk time in that 24hr period?

[Mike Temporale]

Talk time in that 24hr period?

Not sure. I haven't really kept track. Maybe 60-90 minutes? Just guessing.

[Jason Dunn]

Mmm. Sweet. Finally a device I might be able to use! ;-)

[Jerry Raia]

C'mon Rocco, Lets have some inside info! Is Cingular getting this thing? :lol:

[Rocco Augusto]

There are no talks of it on the radar at all, not even on a road map. I have been told that there is another windows mobile smartphone one the roadmap for a q3 release. the problem with roadmaps though is that they always change. at one point an mpx220 update was edge was on one of my roadmaps :(

[Jerry Raia]

:cry:

[MitchellO]

I am really interested in the GSM version of the Q, but I would be even more interested if it supported 2100Mhz UMTS. Thats what our 3G networks use over here, and I would like to jump on the 3G bandwagon but my SP5 doesn't support it.

WiFi would be an awesome addon too. Make this the perfect messaging device, both at home and out-and-about.

[nskgti]

:cry:

Think tri-band HSDPA, quad-band EDGE, probably not as "sexy", but with a hell of a lot more firepower.... Personally I think the Q is a bit overrated, but to each his own...

[Mike Temporale]

Personally I think the Q is a bit overrated, but to each his own...

I was thinking the same until I got my hands on a loaner. After using one all weekend before the battery drained - I was hooked. I'm still sad that I can't play with it anymore. It has some faults, but it ain't no MPx220. ;)

[cingulartreo]

I am not sure this thing is all its cracked up to be. Because it uses WM smartphone, its features are more limited than a normal PPC.

1. No editing of attachments. Clearview suite will view, but not edit.
2. WMS is designed for portrait screens not landscape, and so are a lot of the programs out there.
3. WMS is not designed for a jog dial, so not all programs use it.

I saw an article detailing other issues but these were the 3 that stuck with me the most.

[Jerry Raia]

So far I am very impressed with it. Moto did it right.

[Macguy59]

So far I am very impressed with it. Moto did it right.

One thing I puzzled about is the so-called snappy performance. The Q I played with was not snappy at all. At least compared to my Treos and XV6600.

[Jerry Raia]

There will always be issues with that. My 8125 can be quite slow, slower than the Q in fact. I still like it.

[Rocco Augusto]

well if jerry likes it then i might play with the GSM version. im not playing with that CDMA. CDMA= :twisted: ;)