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Old 07-26-2004, 09:08 PM
huangzhinong
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So the touchpad can't be use as handwriting area as Palm? I though they finally merged laptop touchpad and POS silk hardwriting area. What a disppointment.
 
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Old 07-26-2004, 09:09 PM
Exempli Gratia
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Seems this only would be useful one-handed (and/or if a clear cover was on). One-handed, your thumb may be able to reach the entire touch-pad, but not the entire screen. Plus, trying to hit the screen with your thumb is not very precise.

Two-handed, the only advantage it that you would not need to get the stylus out and would not muck up the screen.
 
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Old 07-26-2004, 09:24 PM
surur
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Actually, to tap a button repeatedly (e.g in a game) you will have to lift your thumb off the touch pad for a moment. This may make your hold on your device less stable, and may make a top-heavy device fall. There is also no tactile feedback (which is also useful in a game)

Its not really a useful addition to a device with a large touch screen, no matter how well they implement it.

A much better innovation would have been a very large screen which extends to the edge of the device, which implemented a virtual touchpad (ala the virtual silk screen on the POS devices).

It would have the same effect, plus is you hate it you could make it go away and have a bigger screen.

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Old 07-26-2004, 09:28 PM
alex_kac
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Problem with using the screen as the touch pad solely: smudges. The 4700's touchpad allows you to do things you'd normally use your thumb on the screen for - without smudging the screen with icky human oils.
 
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Old 07-26-2004, 09:43 PM
PJE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by huangzhinong
So the touchpad can't be use as handwriting area as Palm? I though they finally merged laptop touchpad and POS silk hardwriting area. What a disppointment.
Watching the demo I was thinking how nice it would be to have a third mode of operation where you could enter text in a graffiti mode without needing to pop up the on screen display...

...Now if was only $499....
 
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Old 07-26-2004, 09:44 PM
Robb Bates
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I'm with Surur, I don't even see the whole point in this (pardon the pun).

Why have a touch sensitive pad when you have a touch sensitive screen not even a 1/4" away. What's the point? Yes, I like the mouse cursor. I wouldn't mind seeing a portable mouse to be used with foldable keyboards. But the loss of the tactile d-pad makes this a negative in my book. I rarely use the d-pad except for games and this touchpad probably would make game play that much harder.

Robb
 
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Old 07-26-2004, 09:46 PM
Robb Bates
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Surur
A much better innovation would have been a very large screen which extends to the edge of the device, which implemented a virtual touchpad (ala the virtual silk screen on the POS devices).
Isn't that what PPCs already have versus Palm devices?

Robb
 
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Old 07-26-2004, 09:51 PM
surur
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Quote:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Surur
A much better innovation would have been a very large screen which extends to the edge of the device, which implemented a virtual touchpad (ala the virtual silk screen on the POS devices).
Isn't that what PPCs already have versus Palm devices?

Robb
Aaah, but the point would be a very large screen which extends to the edge of the device, which implemented a virtual touchpad.

Like some sony models, a device that is all screen, with some hardware buttons on the edge. That would be really cool.

Surur
 
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Old 07-26-2004, 09:57 PM
Stake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Surur
Actually, to tap a button repeatedly (e.g in a game) you will have to lift your thumb off the touch pad for a moment. This may make your hold on your device less stable, and may make a top-heavy device fall. There is also no tactile feedback (which is also useful in a game)
I think you're mistaken on that point. I saw the demo again and it clearly shows that when you press on the raised points in navigation mode, it does repeat.

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Its not really a useful addition to a device with a large touch screen, no matter how well they implement it.
I think there are advantages here even with a 4" screen. My Genio has a 4" screen and I have always wished there was a better way for navigation in addition to the touchscreen.

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A much better innovation would have been a very large screen which extends to the edge of the device, which implemented a virtual touchpad (ala the virtual silk screen on the POS devices).

It would have the same effect, plus is you hate it you could make it go away and have a bigger screen.
I don't know about this either. I think this may cause tapping errors if you're navigating and tapping at the same time. If you have two points pressed on the screen at the same time on a touch display, it will only respond properly to one point or the other, not both. Having it there at all times, I feel, makes more sense. Even if this wasn't the case, I don't think that you'll have the precise control as you would on a touchpad. There would also only be a single fixed pressure threshold to get it to respond. Sliding your finger/thumb on a glass-like surface isn't smooth either.
 
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Old 07-26-2004, 10:17 PM
snazzy
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I don't get it either.. there's a large 4 inch screen a finger movement away.. why use the touchpad? icky finger? use the stylus then. hmm... :roll:
 
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