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Old 08-18-2008, 08:00 PM
Adam Krebs
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Default FCC Tests 120GB Zune. New Models on the Way?

http://https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/pr...tive_or_pdf=pdf

"Ever since Samsung had announced their new 120GB 1.8-inch hard drive in April 2007, Zune fansites has been buzzing with anticipation of a new Zune fitted with the higher capacity drives. Now the wait is nearly over as the FCC publishes a test report (and I assume approves) of the new 120GB Zunes. The 120GB Zune pictured above looks identical to the 80GB Zune and that's expected since the hard drive is of identical size too. The firmware used is nothing special too - version 2.5 (1614). Oh and in case you were wondering about the radiation emissions test results, the Zune passed with flying colors so it won't fry your body parts. Good to know."

So I guess Microsoft is planning on releasing a 120 GB version of the Zune80 (Zune120?), which shows little change from its smaller-capacity brethren. Why Zune would release such a player now is baffling. It is too far away from the Holiday Season to be part of gen3 (Zune4, 8 and 80 were announced in October), and it doesn't look like a special edition. Hopefully Microsoft will give us some answers, and soon.

 
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:32 PM
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Moreover, why wouldn't they use the 160GB disk? Does Apple have an exclusive on it?

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Old 08-18-2008, 09:43 PM
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Moreover, why wouldn't they use the 160GB disk? Does Apple have an exclusive on it?

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this Zune have the same depth as a normal Zune 80.
no accesories incompatibilities, fit in the same ecosystem already for Zune 80. and the last: dont make a new sturdy Zune brick
Get it ?
 
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:49 PM
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this Zune have the same depth as a normal Zune 80.
no accesories incompatibilities, fit in the same ecosystem already for Zune 80. and the last: dont make a new sturdy Zune brick
Get it ?
No, I don't. Toshiba's specs for their 120GB and 80/160GB models show that the 160GB is the exact same depth as the 80GB and the 120GB units (8mm). Unless Microsoft has sourced a company that makes thinner 1.8" 120GB hard drives, the only explanation I can see is power and/or cost. The former difference seems minor to me (though I could be wrong), and I wouldn't use the latter as a good argument, since this would be the high-end Zune anyway.

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Old 08-18-2008, 11:52 PM
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Default FCC Test 120 GB Zune

Two things make me laugh about this...

1.) Zune Insider was not the first to tell us of this...way to keep up Cesar.
2.) Its 40 gbs less than its competitor and will most likely be in black only. Also with no features this looks like nothing more than a struggle from a dying animal.
 
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Old 08-19-2008, 12:47 AM
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Two things make me laugh about this...

1.) Zune Insider was not the first to tell us of this...way to keep up Cesar.
2.) Its 40 gbs less than its competitor and will most likely be in black only. Also with no features this looks like nothing more than a struggle from a dying animal.
1.) Who's "us"? I thought you were done with Zune.
2.) Maybe market research shows people don't want 160 GB. I certainly don't.

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Old 08-19-2008, 07:01 PM
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After your parting video rant, I was honestly hoping you'd really do what you said you'd do and leave the Zune behind. In your video it's pretty clear you don't understand technology lifecycles, marketing, or business in any way. You attained your 15 minutes of fame by making a spectacle of yourself, not for your knowledge about the Zune. If you insist in coming in here and trashing the Zune and the Zune team, I'll have to answer...

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1.) Zune Insider was not the first to tell us of this...way to keep up Cesar.
FCC filings are not product announcements - they're essentially product leaks that seem to happen when companies don't file the right documents to keep the tests private.

Let's say Cesar was to say "Hey guys, we have a 120 GB Zune coming...but I can't tell you anything about it other than the fact that it's 120 GB." You know full well he'd be raked across the coals for that - Microsoft will announce the Zune 120 when they're ready to talk about it. And, historically, Zune Insider hasn't been a place for new product announcements, at least not things that are up on Zune.net first.

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2.) Its 40 gbs less than its competitor and will most likely be in black only. Also with no features this looks like nothing more than a struggle from a dying animal.
I agree that it's not a good thing for the Zune to not match the size of the biggest iPod, but I think it's a very good thing that they only have ONE size for the hard-drive based Zune. When the Zune 80 came out, it had the highest-capacity hard drive that was available on the market that fit into the thickness they designed. It looks like now that same thickness can accommodate a 120 GB drive, so we get a 50% boost in storage but the Zune stays compatible with all the accessories for the Zune 80. That's critical.

What happens if Microsoft were to release a thicker Zune with a bigger hard drive? All the accessory makers groan because they have to make new accessories for the thicker Zune - that's not a big problem for the market-leading iPod, but when you're the "little guy" in the market you don't want to give your partners any excuse to give up on your product. If you make things difficult, or increase their customer service costs, they might walk away from your product.

As for the colour, why wouldn't it be at least black and red like the Zune 80 is now? And why do you think it will have no new features? We don't know that, because the FCC documents don't tend to talk about features, they just talk about specifications. If this is just a new product in the current generation of Zunes, a Zune 120 identical to the Zune 80 in every way but size, then maybe it won't have any new features. Or maybe it's part of a new generation of products that will have new features? We don't know.

As for your "struggle of a dying animal comment", that's just pure ignorance talking. You seem to think that consumer technologies should come out with new versions every six months or something. What planet does that happen on? The 2nd gen Zune came out in November 2007. There were a few minor software/firmware updates until the spring, when they release a very big software & firmware update that added new features, fixed a lot of bugs, etc.

There are rumours about something new coming in the fall - we don't know what it is, but it's clear that the Zune team continues to move the product forward on a regular basis. No one launches a product then four to six months later launches a new version of that product - that just isn't done, and for you to expect that shows your ignorance of how things really work.
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