Stlbud...my music taste isn't even all that eclectic and it would still pose difficulty for me!
What's your Zune Tag?
Doog...the Zune autoplaylists can do all of the same things but what we're saying is that while it is an available option, its not the one that we prefer. We both would like to have our entire collection available.
Zune Tag - therealstlbud
I'll put it in my sig until I find a better way to get it in my profile.
Hey Jason, Is there some way to include Zune Tags in our profiles?
Hey, I was just answering a question - the one that I quoted. ...
(By the way, the 5.7 GB of music on my device would get me through 3.6 days if I played 24 x 7. My least recently played songs are from Jan 1, 2008 [though I tend to listen to podcasts as much as I do music.] I'd say that a 32 GB Zune should get you pretty far.)
Sorry, I didn't mean to be critical of your advice.
I just quickly went through 5 classical CDs, rating each track using the Zune's heart method. Each track was familiar and I had strongly formed opinions of each track so I didn't have to listen through the entire selection. It still took almost 45 minutes. I guess I just need to get my act together and eliminate the tracks I hate and see what's left.
You bring up another point, iTunes (I had an iPod for a while) has it all over Zune when it comes to ratings, playlists, etc. Hopefully the next version of the Zune player will make this area more robust.
RE: your last statement - I realize everyone is different and enjoys their music in different ways but, I really like taking a moment to pick just the thing I want to listen to at that moment. I don't know what that preference will be in 30 minutes much less the evening before I go to work.
You bring up another point, iTunes (I had an iPod for a while) has it all over Zune when it comes to ratings, playlists, etc. Hopefully the next version of the Zune player will make this area more robust.
As someone who's using a Zune (well, a few) and an iPod Touch, I couldn't disagree more! When I dock my Zune, here's what happens because the software scans different folders on my PC/network looking for new stuff:
1) I automatically get all new music that I've added within the past 60 days
2) I automatically get new photos that I've taken within the past 60 days
3) I automatically get anything in the hard rock category put onto my Zune
That's a *GREAT* sync experience.
The iPod? I get nothing at all because the piece of crap program won't monitor my music folder. I'm adding music from various sources - Amazon.com MP3s, Zune Marketplace MP3s, ripped CDs - and iTunes stupidly thinks that it's the only place that someone would POSSIBLY add music from.
Now it may be that the Zune ratings system is too binary - you either like it, are neutral, or don't like it - but I've gotten used to it. I don't see much of a difference between liking a song and REALLY liking a song - both are songs you want to here right?
So I'll take the Zune software over iTunes any day of the week...
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The iPod? I get nothing at all because the piece of crap program won't monitor my music folder. I'm adding music from various sources - Amazon.com MP3s, Zune Marketplace MP3s, ripped CDs - and iTunes stupidly thinks that it's the only place that someone would POSSIBLY add music from.
Interesting. Maybe my memory is faulty but my iTunes did fine monitoring folders until I turned the feature off (it kept trying to add sound files from my DVD authoring software). And you are right. Microsoft understands real sync and does it so much better than anyone else (including Linux). Remember, Apple had to buy sync technology from Microsoft to get their precious iPhone to sync contacts and appointments.
I didn't mean to say the Zune software was junk. There are lots of fun features but like everything in life, there is room to grow.
Best of all, I don't have to wear turtle neck shirts anymore :-)
(By the way, the 5.7 GB of music on my device would get me through 3.6 days if I played 24 x 7. My least recently played songs are from Jan 1, 2008 [though I tend to listen to podcasts as much as I do music.] I'd say that a 32 GB Zune should get you pretty far.)
Please, please, don't use this argument. The point is not length, but selection. I occasionally want to hear a song from an album I bought a long time ago and generally don't listen to anymore. Or the whole album, for that matter.
Please, please, don't use this argument. The point is not length, but selection. I occasionally want to hear a song from an album I bought a long time ago and generally don't listen to anymore. Or the whole album, for that matter.
--janak
Agreed - with that as the primary argument, one might do just as well with a radio.
The iPod? I get nothing at all because the piece of crap program won't monitor my music folder. I'm adding music from various sources - Amazon.com MP3s, Zune Marketplace MP3s, ripped CDs - and iTunes stupidly thinks that it's the only place that someone would POSSIBLY add music from.
I am going to studiously stay away from this debate and editorializing on it. You and I have different models, and I accept that. I just wanted to point out Amazon MP3's downloader can populate iTunes automatically, so that, along with iTunes's built-in importing facility, might explain why some people don't notice the lack of monitoring folders.
Anyway, does the Zune software have smart playlist functionality? I do end up using that in iTunes with a strategy of cascading rules to filter out which music I don't listen to, so as to fit everything in 32GB...
Microsoft understands real sync and does it so much better than anyone else (including Linux). Remember, Apple had to buy sync technology from Microsoft to get their precious iPhone to sync contacts and appointments.
This is the first time I heard about this. Which technology did Apple buy from Microsoft? (Unless you're referring to Exchange ActiveSync support, which is only one way to sync contacts/calendar from Apple products?)
And, can someone at Microsoft tell them to take either the Zune's sync or the aforementioned technology that they sold to Apple and hand it to the WM team? Please?
This is the first time I heard about this. Which technology did Apple buy from Microsoft? (Unless you're referring to Exchange ActiveSync support, which is only one way to sync contacts/calendar from Apple products?)
And, can someone at Microsoft tell them to take either the Zune's sync or the aforementioned technology that they sold to Apple and hand it to the WM team? Please?
--janak
Yes, it was the Exchange ActiveSync support. But, this short statement doesn't cover the whole picture. I've been using a PocketPC/Windows Mobile device for many years (since version 2.11). ActiveSync has the capability of syncing files as well as contacts/appointments. It does it very well and has never failed me. Look, also, at Microsoft's SyncToy. It does a remarkable job of quickly scanning files and making appropriate transfers in both directions if desired. Zune, ActiveSync, and SyncToy also work from a list of working folders and leaves the rest of the world alone. iTunes on the other hand wanted to "sync" everything, would frequently miss new files (not always), deleted files off the iPod when it got confused and was only one direction - to the iPod.
Apple clearly couldn't get it right on their own. I understand things have mysteriously gotten better since they started using ActiveSync.
I just wanted to point out Amazon MP3's downloader can populate iTunes automatically, so that, along with iTunes's built-in importing facility, might explain why some people don't notice the lack of monitoring folders.
Which technology did Apple buy from Microsoft? (Unless you're referring to Exchange ActiveSync support, which is only one way to sync contacts/calendar from Apple products?)
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