[Jason Dunn]

Originally Posted by mszunefan

Thirdly, to expect a company who is fighting one of the biggest product monopolies on this planet to maybe not keep everything secret and share with us their "master plan" might not be a bad idea. They have take a great product line and slowly drug it to its near death.

What are you basing this "near death" on? That the Zune hasn't somehow taken away 10% of Apple's market share already? Market share isn't won overnight - it's a long, slow process...and against a giant like Apple, who rarely releases poor products, it's a very hard process.

Sharing the "master plan" with the general public far in advance accomplishes one thing: it gives your competitors time to copy and beat you at your own game. Don't you think there's a reason nobody does it?

I think your expectations of the Zune team are completely out of whack.

[Jason Dunn]

Originally Posted by mszunefan

Thirdly, to expect a company who is fighting one of the biggest product monopolies on this planet to maybe not keep everything secret and share with us their "master plan" might not be a bad idea. They have take a great product line and slowly drug it to its near death.

What are you basing this "near death" on? That the Zune hasn't somehow taken away 10% of Apple's market share already? Market share isn't won overnight - it's a long, slow process...and against a giant like Apple, who rarely releases poor products, it's a very hard process.

Sharing the "master plan" with the general public far in advance accomplishes one thing: it gives your competitors time to copy and beat you at your own game. Don't you think there's a reason nobody does it?

I think your expectations of the Zune team are completely out of whack.

[mszunefan]

Originally Posted by Jason Dunn

What are you basing this "near death" on? That the Zune hasn't somehow taken away 10% of Apple's market share already?

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No near death means that there hasn't been any real news until just now and the Candian launch was so big that they just forgot to tell us how much it bombed. Also when you go against a big competitor like Apple, wouldn't it make sense to use all your gun powder and attack them full force with a killer product with even more killer features? Instead the Zune Team has used a sparkler to so some slight sparkling hopes but after 10 mins it has fizzled out.

[Jason Dunn]

Originally Posted by mszunefan

No near death means that there hasn't been any real news until just now and the Candian launch was so big that they just forgot to tell us how much it bombed.

See, here's the whole problem with what you're saying: somehow, and I'm not sure why, you're under the impression that there should be "big Zune news" every 30 days or something. The Zune 2.5 release, which was a big release with lots of new features, was three months ago. 90 days or so. As in, pretty recently?

You somehow believe that the Zune team can move so fast that they should be releasing new features, and new Zunes, every couple of months. Apple doesn't do that. Samsung doesn't do that. SanDisk doesn't do that. Nobody does that. So why on earth do you think the Zune team can do that? Your expectations for the Zune team are COMPLETELY unrealistic and every time you express this opinion it only serves to show how ignorant you are.

Originally Posted by mszunefan

Also when you go against a big competitor like Apple, wouldn't it make sense to use all your gun powder and attack them full force with a killer product with even more killer features? Instead the Zune Team has used a sparkler to so some slight sparkling hopes but after 10 mins it has fizzled out.

Ok, so your theory is that the Zune team has killer products and killer ideas about killer features but they're somehow not implementing them? Why, because they're lazy? Or they're saving them for something specialy? Get real. Killer products and killer features take time, and I'd say that the second generation Zune was a huge leap above the 1.0 Zune, and the 2.5 update improved the Zune another big step. Microsoft is making improvements, and you may not think they're big enough, but it's unfair of you to claim that they're not doing anything. Doing nothing was what they did with the Zune 1.0 - there were no real firmware or software improvements for a whole year, which sucked. That was them doing nothing. But we saw what they were really focused on when the Zune 2.0 came out...

PLEASE enjoy your iPod and stop posting here. Go join an Apple community and complain there about how much the Zune sucks - you'll get a lot of support for your opinion over on that side of the fence.