11-10-2003, 04:13 PM
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It's Official - Samsung i600 From Verizon Wireless!
Today, Microsoft and Verizon Wireless formally launched the Samsung i600 Smartphone. "The i600 is an integrated device with a sleek, clamshell design that combines Verizon Wireless' NationalAccess service with Microsoft's comprehensive Windows Mobile software which includes Pocket Outlook® , Pocket Internet Explorer, MSN® Messenger, Microsoft Windows Media Player™ and ActiveSync® . It also features an SDI/O Expansion Slot for memory expansion, added hardware accessories and additional applications that can be loaded on the device. " In conjunction with the launch, Handango has opened a portal on their store specially for Verizon Wireless customers. The portal can be found at http://www.handango.com/verizonwireless. As for pricing: "Through the end of this year, the i600 Smartphone will retail for $399.99 after a $100 instant rebate, with a two-year agreement on a calling plan of $39.99 or greater and the PDA/Smartphone unlimited NationalAccess plan at any Verizon Wireless Communications Store or by calling 1-800-2JOIN-IN. The PDA/Smartphone feature is available at $24.99 monthly for 5MB NationalAccess allowance or $44.99 for unlimited NationalAccess allowance when added to any calling plan of $39.99 or higher. A PDA/Smartphone plan is required to use NationalAccess and Wireless Sync services from Verizon Wireless. For more information on Verizon Wireless products and services visit www.verizonwireless.com." This is big news, folks! Now the CDMA crowd can join in all the Windows Mobile Smartphone fun, too! :rock on dude!:
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11-10-2003, 04:40 PM
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I saw the same email in my mailbox, but Verizon hasn't updated their webpage yet. :| And too "bad" I just started a brand-new contract with my i700. 
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11-10-2003, 04:47 PM
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Is this too expensive compare to mpx200? Sigh ... Too bad. I really have high hope for Samsung i600 because ATT GSM network coverage is just not there yet.
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11-10-2003, 05:05 PM
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$400 after committing to a 2-year contract?!? Yeah, that's a sure-fire way to get market penetration for a new product. Way to go, imbeciles.
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11-10-2003, 05:40 PM
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Not only is the two year commitment and price of the phone outrageous, but $45 a month for unlimited date with a $40 calling plan! I'd like a smartphone, but these prices border of theivery!
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11-10-2003, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by trachy
$400 after committing to a 2-year contract?!? Yeah, that's a sure-fire way to get market penetration for a new product. Way to go, imbeciles.
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Verizon is typically expensive for any of their new smart devices, be they Palm, Windows Mobile, or anything else. After all, the 7135 is still listed for $500 with a 2-year contract, and the i700 is $600.
BTW, that doesn't necessarily make them "imbeciles"...
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11-10-2003, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nobody
Is this too expensive compare to mpx200? Sigh ... Too bad. I really have high hope for Samsung i600 because ATT GSM network coverage is just not there yet.
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That's the position I'm in.
Sexy, inexpensive MPx200 with no coverage,
or much more uglier, expensive i600 with great coverage. |
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11-10-2003, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Janak Parekh
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Originally Posted by trachy
$400 after committing to a 2-year contract?!? Yeah, that's a sure-fire way to get market penetration for a new product. Way to go, imbeciles.
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Verizon is typically expensive for any of their new smart devices, be they Palm, Windows Mobile, or anything else. After all, the 7135 is still listed for $500 with a 2-year contract, and the i700 is $600.
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I understand that as a voice of Thoughts you probaby want to distance yourself from Verizon criticism, but -- c'mon! Justifying this highway robbery with the argument that they've always been expensive is absurd. It might be a valid argument if the market set that $400 price tag, but AT&T and Motorola have clearly shown that not to be the case.
I don't usually resort to name calling, but whomever makes the pricing decisions at Verizon is an imbecile in my book. Frankly, I'm a little surprised MS and/or Samsung haven't dropped the hammer on them yet. |
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11-10-2003, 07:51 PM
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I understand that as a voice of Thoughts you probaby want to distance yourself from Verizon criticism, but -- c'mon!
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What on earth are you talking about? I'm not paid by Verizon or Samsung. Please don't imply that, either. :roll:
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Justifying this highway robbery with the argument that they've always been expensive is absurd.
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Why? I bought the Qualcomm pdQ back when it was $799 years ago when released by Sprint. I'm not saying it's necessarily smart, and I don't necessarily agree with their strategy, but it's been their business practice for years. They're obviously targeting the corporate market first.
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It might be a valid argument if the market set that $400 price tag, but AT&T and Motorola have clearly shown that not to be the case.
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Well, note that $120 of that discount is Amazon's. That makes the price difference on the order of about $150. It's probably not worth that, but Verizon made an administrative decision to price this as a slower-moving item.
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Frankly, I'm a little surprised MS and/or Samsung haven't dropped the hammer on them yet.
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Like I said, they've been selling the i700 at $599 for many months now. There's no rules about pricing, and I don't see any hammer. It's all within the "rules" of supply and demand. If an insufficient number of people buy it at that price point, they'll (hopefully) reduce the price. It's not like you're forced to buy this product. That would be highway robbery.
In general, if you look at Verizon Wireless, everything is more expensive -- both the phones and the service -- and yet, they do well. That means that despite their pricing, their network is in demand. The younger GSM networks price more aggressively, largely because they need to as they're still in a ramp-up mode. Nov. 24th will tell us whose business policies are working and whose are not.
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11-10-2003, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by trachy
It might be a valid argument if the market set that $400 price tag, but AT&T and Motorola have clearly shown that not to be the case.
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I've been griping about this on HoFo for awhile. Here are some things that other people brought up.
#1: The MPx200 is $299 on AT&T's site (with any contract). The i600 will be $399 on VZW's site (with a two year contract). That's a $100 difference.
#2: AT&T's APGU is $377 while Verizon's is $250 -- perhaps AT&T is putting that $100 more they spend to attract a customer towards phone subsidy.
#3: The i600 comes with an extra 1700mha extended battery and a leather case. Not quite a $100 value, but it does come with more stuff.
#4: QualComm CDMA licensing fees could be higher than GSM/GPRS.
#5: The MPx200 is being batch manufactured for release on many GSM/GPRS networks worldwide, ... so its possibly cheaper because more of them are being made
#6: VZW's network has much much much more coverage than AT&T, so you're getting what you pay for.
I think the VZW price sucks, especially since you can get a MPx200 for $129 at Amazon, but there were definately "other factors" that could logically affect the price that I wasn't aware of. |
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